Trombone Champ
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bunnidew Oct 4, 2022 @ 8:12pm
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lack of diversity
I get that majority of recorded classical hits are gonna be made by men, but it is really so easy to find incredible composers and songs by women and other groups. Just saying, it would be really nice to see more than one (1) trading card about a female trombone player when the other 30 cards are all male. Great game! Just wish there more acknowledgement of women in the trading cards is all.
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Chrischenko Oct 4, 2022 @ 9:52pm 
I think it's more that most of these songs are in the public domain except for the new compositions
goose Oct 5, 2022 @ 7:22pm 
Its a trombone game, get spotify or something
Last edited by goose; Oct 5, 2022 @ 7:23pm
Heru Oct 5, 2022 @ 7:56pm 
It's the classics that are in the public domain. I'm all for diversity but its a harder ask here than in Osu or other music games. But hopefully they can add some.
Mr. Holy Wow  [developer] Oct 7, 2022 @ 8:29am 
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This is something we'd like to improve in the future! When we were developing the game, and didn't expect it to grow popular, we were limited to public domain / historical figures; all deceased. Sadly this problem of representation extends way beyond Trombone Champ — any collection of famous old classical music / composers is typically dominated by men.

But now that the game is popular and we actually have the budget to potentially pursue content beyond "old / in the public domain," we'll be consulting with knowledgeable people about addressing this issue.
Last edited by Mr. Holy Wow; Oct 7, 2022 @ 9:54am
Deatheye Oct 8, 2022 @ 12:53pm 
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I think most people don't care about the gender of the artists, so I wouldn't waste too much budget on that topic.
Dack_Official Oct 9, 2022 @ 12:46am 
no way devs response isnt ironic
FauxEars Oct 14, 2022 @ 7:56pm 
I prefer my entertainment not getting bogged down by diversity quotas.
DOS32 Oct 15, 2022 @ 4:25pm 
imagine living your life letting things like this upset you
Potato Child Oct 15, 2022 @ 5:48pm 
lmao Who cares ? Male or Female, I like both in music but this is a f-ing game. Get over it, Go listen to your music elsewhere and let us gamer's be happy we got a amazing game :)
bunnidew Oct 24, 2022 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by Mr. Holy Wow:
This is something we'd like to improve in the future! When we were developing the game, and didn't expect it to grow popular, we were limited to public domain / historical figures; all deceased. Sadly this problem of representation extends way beyond Trombone Champ — any collection of famous old classical music / composers is typically dominated by men.

But now that the game is popular and we actually have the budget to potentially pursue content beyond "old / in the public domain," we'll be consulting with knowledgeable people about addressing this issue.

Really amazing to hear from the dev that this is something they're aware of and working to expand, great job! Looking forward to further projects and updates, rock on.
ぐー Oct 26, 2022 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by Mr. Holy Wow:
This is something we'd like to improve in the future! When we were developing the game, and didn't expect it to grow popular, we were limited to public domain / historical figures; all deceased. Sadly this problem of representation extends way beyond Trombone Champ — any collection of famous old classical music / composers is typically dominated by men.

But now that the game is popular and we actually have the budget to potentially pursue content beyond "old / in the public domain," we'll be consulting with knowledgeable people about addressing this issue.

I'm really hoping it works out. A lot of great stuff could definitely be added
Originally posted by DOS32:
imagine living your life letting things like this upset you
you mean like how you're getting upset about a suggestion on the steam forums, my good ♥♥♥♥♥? xD
iie-kyo Oct 28, 2022 @ 2:59am 
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Originally posted by Mr. Holy Wow:
This is something we'd like to improve in the future! When we were developing the game, and didn't expect it to grow popular, we were limited to public domain / historical figures; all deceased. Sadly this problem of representation extends way beyond Trombone Champ — any collection of famous old classical music / composers is typically dominated by men.

But now that the game is popular and we actually have the budget to potentially pursue content beyond "old / in the public domain," we'll be consulting with knowledgeable people about addressing this issue.

I don't think is an "issue". This is the *only* person on this forum that said something silly like this. Everyone else is praising you for making a funny, over the top, tongue in cheek game. You don't have to appeal to the 0.01% minority.

I think what might save you some time and improve this game's longevity is to add proper workshop support. There's already a thriving modding community out here - OP's "diversity led" music can be added by herself. You guys sticking to public domain/historical stuff and then flipping that upside down makes for hilarious and entertaining absurdist entertainment. It made you folks think outside the box to turn what looks like boring pieces entertaining to play and watch. Well done.

Also if you want to address a more significant minority that I think needs some attention, I think adding accessibility features like color blind/color adjustment modes and other things to reduce flashing lights and excessive motion for those who get motion sick would be a good idea. I saw a few reviews saying they had to refund the game or stop playing because of it, which is a bummer since this game is so fun.
Last edited by iie-kyo; Oct 28, 2022 @ 3:01am
Dr. Arbitrary Oct 30, 2022 @ 11:32am 
I think it's a worthwhile thing to keep in mind and try to achieve. The game is silly, but it's clear that an effort was made to cast as broad a net as possible.

It would have been very easy for the entire song list to be marching band stuff. But isn't it great that there's other songs?

It's really hard to find songs that are public domain though. I was thinking about Cielito Lindo, which I think is iconic and on the easier side. The song was published in 1882, how could it not be public domain? Except the composer lived until 1957, and in many countries the rule is life-plus-70 years, so 2027.

It's unfortunate, but there's a real possibility that there exist no notable public-domain songs featuring trombones performed or composed by women. If someone finds one, I think it'd be on the fast-track to getting in the game. And that probably also applies to all sorts of diverse music. Maybe there's a regionally well-known folk song in Madagascar that's played on an instrument that's played on a trombone-like instrument, if this song exists and someone's aware of it, don't keep it a secret!
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