Difficulty gap between hard and expert is much too large

[Dreadnaught]

Anyone else feel like the difference between hard and expert is a little ridiculous? I can comfortably play any song on hard and get full combo on a lot of them. But expert is stupid.
There's no gradual feeling of getting better like other music games. It's just a straight jump. If difficulty was on a scale of 1-10 , hard would be a 6 and expert would be a 9.5, then the next difficulty after looks like 11, although I haven't touched it much since it speeds up the note track and I can't stand that. The speed of the note track should be either a standard across the game or able to be set by the player. It doesn't make the game any harder or easier other than how you read the notes.

There really should be a difficulty between hard and expert.

Also, as a side note, please, please, please don't make songs stupid hard just for the sake of difficulty. It completely kills any fun when you have to be frantically flying all over the place to play what sounds like 2 notes.

[PhantomDgen]

On my perspective its almost the same thing, But for me i can pull of PCs on hard after trying for some time.
Expert would need a bit more grinding to me because musics are longer and its easy to miss and note at a tense moment, but i can pull it off eventually.
Expert just its a bit more complicated Hard music to me, i can do it still with very few mistakes here and there.

But XD its just a extra huge jump. On your scale if expert is 9.5 then XD its 15 minimun. There is just way to much more compllicated techs and constant space bar notes (beats), Spins are very small which makes it very complicated to throw my mouse to the side then put it on position back while hitting the notes.(high sensitivity its quite a double-edged sword)
I got to practice every single section and rely everything on my muscular memory to do that thing!
If i were to go in raw on the music without any preview on practive its just straight impossible for someone who its not a dedicated pro into rhythm games.

Also its quite an bummer that only AND STRICTLY only XD levels has the moving background and the ship thing to wobble around moving the notes with it.
So its only possible to have that wacky gameplay from the store page on the top most hard dificult? Not very accessible even for not bad rhythm game players...

[Daverwob]

Make sure you start at the top of the list on Expert. New Game, Checkpoint, Inject etc. are the easiest of the Expert tracks, and the main skill is the mixing of regular beats with all other elements (except excessive colour swapping, that is reserved for XD).

XD levels are all considered a 10/10, we haven't done the visual for this yet. We want the game to have a high skill ceiling for rhythm game pros, and there are many players who mastered XD within a few weeks of it being released.

I would suggest practice mode for the earlier expert songs, and remember you can slow down playback to get used to the new motions (P to slowdown in practice mode, shift + P to speed up).

Good luck.

[Yiasmat]

Publicado originalmente por Dreadnaught:

Also, as a side note, please, please, please don't make songs stupid hard just for the sake of difficulty. It completely kills any fun when you have to be frantically flying all over the place to play what sounds like 2 notes.

Please, please do. There's a reason why there's a lot of difficulty options. If you don't want to spam inputs, then have fun on the lower difficulties, but please don't be affraid to spam objects on higher difficulties. It's the reason why i hate some rythm games, it seems like they are just too affraid of that.

But back on topic:
I think the difficulty gaps in this game are... all right. I come from a rhythm game background (osu!) and was able to play expert within an hour roughly. And now (7 hours later) i find it hard to go from expert to XD. But that's what practise is for. Granted, the practise mode kiiiinda is a bit rough since it start out with segmented loop ON making you opt out of it every single time and it can only decrese the speed of songs in 15% steps, but other than that i like the difficulty jumps.

Asking them to make an entire difficulty for every single soung would be too much effort on the developement side of things.