Grass Crown

[flori2412]

Having played through the whole game several times, I still have no idea how to get the Grass Crown. I must be missing something. Could someone tell me, please? Please hide your text with the spoiler command, so that other players reading this still have the chance to find it out on their own.

Thank you in advance!

[Mazzini appreciator]

My assumption is when you manage to break through the phalanx and sow chaos in the Macedonian army

[flori2412]

I have managed to break through in both phalanx battles, killing several phalangites in close combat, but I still didn't get it.

[Ice5643]

Originally posted by flori2412:

I have managed to break through in both phalanx battles, killing several phalangites in close combat, but I still didn't get it.

In the final battle you need to break through the phalanx twice (there is two phases), then you need to pass an intelligence check, which lets you lead troops into the gap. Then there is an extra set of fights (close combat vs. phalangites and then a non time limit battle against some auxillaries). Not sure if the number of phalangite kills matters, I killed all before time limit. You might also have to be a centurion but you really should be at this point.

I recommend a natural swordsman with high str, quickness and int rolls to manage to get this reliably.

[flori2412]

Wow, that's really cool. Thanks for telling me!

[flori2412]

I finally managed to get the Grass Crown. The way it is implemented into the game is simply awesome! Thanks again for your help!

But now I have another question: My character unfortunately didn't become consul because he failed the necessary checks in the epilogue. Is the Grass Crown necessary to be elected consul or can you get that achievement without it?

[Sertorius]

It is not necessary, even a single Civic Crown will suffice. It depends on your Intellect and Charisma; they have to be very, very high.

[flori2412]

Okay, thank you. I'll go with a high charisma/intellect character then.

[Flav]

I won two civic crowns in my last play through, and was admitted to senatorial rank, but my charisma and intelligence were both only in the low to mid 60’s. Did I just get very lucky?

[flori2412]

I don't know for sure, but I believe you will always become a senator if you have won a Civic Crown or the Grass Crown. Your charisma and intellect then determine how far you will make it in the cursus honorum (becoming a quaestor, praetor, aedile, consul...).

[Flav]

Actually, I know that just because you won a Civic Crown doesn't mean you're guaranteed a seat in the Senate, because there have been multiple times I won a CC but didn't become a senator.

[Sertorius]

Originally posted by FlaviusStilicho:

Actually, I know that just because you won a Civic Crown doesn't mean you're guaranteed a seat in the Senate, because there have been multiple times I won a CC but didn't become a senator.

Exactly. There is a check if you won a Civic Crown. Like all checks in the epilogue, there is no roll involved, only the raw values are considered. If you won two Civic Crowns, the check is easier. If you won three, or the Grass Crown, you are admitted with no checks.

After that, it works like this:

Originally posted by flori2412:

Your charisma and intellect then determine how far you will make it in the cursus honorum (becoming a quaestor, praetor, aedile, consul...).