On Fire vs Cursed Inferno vs Frostburn vs Venom

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

What is the difference between all these statuses? Which one is strongest, and what's the dps or whatever? The wiki doesn't even have articles for half of these...

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Първоначално публикувано от flamedance58:

Cursed Fire/Flames is my favorite as it's a DOT and a - Defense.

it is? since when?

[flamedance58]

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

Първоначално публикувано от flamedance58:

Cursed Fire/Flames is my favorite as it's a DOT and a - Defense.

it is? since when?

Oh woops I'm mixing up my status ailments! My bad.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

I never saw a magma stone before. But since the Frost set buffs ranged ammo as well, you could try Cursed Bullets with a Venom flask with that. I wonder if that would inflict all four...

Oops, I forgot flasks only work on melee weapons. And no melee weapons cause Cursed Flames. So unless flasks stack, I can't do this.

Also I forgot: poison is basically the same as these other four stats. is it weakest of the 5?

[Angela™]

Fire and frost DOT"s stack, so presumably hellfire stacks with that. haven't tested with venom but fire gauntlet + frost armor set give both debuffs.

[Tealtyr]

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Fire and frost DOT"s stack, so presumably hellfire stacks with that. haven't tested with venom but fire gauntlet + frost armor set give both debuffs.

Sweet, that was the same thing I was thinking of.
By any chance, does the projectile from the "true" swords give out fire/frostburn from the frost set/fre gauntlet?
I would test this myself, but it's been at least 30 ingame days now and no solar eclipse.

[Tealtyr]

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

I never saw a magma stone before. But since the Frost set buffs ranged ammo as well, you could try Cursed Bullets with a Venom flask with that. I wonder if that would inflict all four...

Oops, I forgot flasks only work on melee weapons. And no melee weapons cause Cursed Flames. So unless flasks stack, I can't do this.

Also I forgot: poison is basically the same as these other four stats. is it weakest of the 5?

Fairly sure poision only does 1 dmg per tick compared to the others, so probbally.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Yep, flasks are one-at-a-time. I just wasted a Cursed Flask. That said, I could just switch weapons :P

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

Oops, I forgot flasks only work on melee weapons. And no melee weapons cause Cursed Flames. So unless flasks stack, I can't do this.

Also I forgot: poison is basically the same as these other four stats. is it weakest of the 5?

Fairly sure poision only does 1 dmg per tick compared to the others, so probbally.

I've never seen any dps debuff do more than 1 per tick...

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=184777170

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

By any chance, does the projectile from the "true" swords give out fire/frostburn from the frost set/fre gauntlet?
I would test this myself, but it's been at least 30 ingame days now and no solar eclipse.

Yes. It does.

[Angela™]

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

Първоначално публикувано от Cyriel ¥ Saltybet.com ¥:

Fire and frost DOT"s stack, so presumably hellfire stacks with that. haven't tested with venom but fire gauntlet + frost armor set give both debuffs.

Sweet, that was the same thing I was thinking of.
By any chance, does the projectile from the "true" swords give out fire/frostburn from the frost set/fre gauntlet?
I would test this myself, but it's been at least 30 ingame days now and no solar eclipse.

They do for true night's edge. Havent tested with the others but presubably they would. Also i only tested with frostburn but that seems to proc off of almost everything.

[Tealtyr]

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

Yep, flasks are one-at-a-time. I just wasted a Cursed Flask. That said, I could just switch weapons :P

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

Fairly sure poision only does 1 dmg per tick compared to the others, so probbally.

I've never seen any dps debuff do more than 1 per tick...

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=184777170

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

By any chance, does the projectile from the "true" swords give out fire/frostburn from the frost set/fre gauntlet?
I would test this myself, but it's been at least 30 ingame days now and no solar eclipse.

Yes. It does.

:D
It is now 100% valid to play a melee character that only uses swords,
when never actually using swords. #MindBlow

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

:D
It is now 100% valid to play a melee character that only uses swords,
when never actually using swords. #MindBlow

say what?

[Tealtyr]

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

:D
It is now 100% valid to play a melee character that only uses swords,
when never actually using swords. #MindBlow

say what?

Exactly.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

say what?

Exactly.

how do you use swords without using swords?

[GrapplerBot]

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

Първоначално публикувано от Tylerlego623 #SpheePower:

Exactly.

how do you use swords without using swords?

Pretty sure he's talking about using the projectile fired by the True swords, and never actually hitting with the sword itself.

[Tealtyr]

Първоначално публикувано от BrawlerBot, the Noxious Tyrant:

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

how do you use swords without using swords?

Pretty sure he's talking about using the projectile fired by the True swords, and never actually hitting with the sword itself.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Първоначално публикувано от BrawlerBot, the Noxious Tyrant:

Първоначално публикувано от Batabii - XY soon:

how do you use swords without using swords?

Pretty sure he's talking about using the projectile fired by the True swords, and never actually hitting with the sword itself.

OK so he's saying "using swords without using direct attacks" then.