Is dynamite/explosives EVER an efficient boss strategy?

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Is it really worth the money and/or time? What if you make a bomb-proof arena? I was reading the wiki and it says dynamite has (fairly) good dps, and I thought it might be a good last resort for some bosses (Golem, Pumpking, etc) but I don't want to destroy the world or my wallet.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Joshua Kurayami:

Minishark/Megashark/SDMG does very little damage

That's not true at all.

[Zwombie]

Maybe?

[dgo93]

Originally posted by Suprisekitty:

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

if it was that slow, it doesn't sound very good. I could probably beat it in 60 seconds with a minishark or whatever.

I don't know why the Minishark is so recommended, To be frank, it doesn't do nearly enough DPS. Infact, I used a minishark the first time, with Every type of bullet imaginable, and it took around 10 Minutes for the thing to even have a dent in its health... Although, if I'm wrong about the DPS, someone correct me... Perhaps a weapon like the Phoenix Blaster would be better?

Full Necro Armor, (Superior) Phoenix Blaster, Meteor Shot and Beenades is what I used recently. Spamming Beenades does a ridiculous amount of damage. Even without those, the Phoenix Blaster on its own does pretty well. I don't remember the exact amount time it took but it's about a minute or so...maybe more...either way it didn't take long at all.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by dgo93:

Originally posted by Suprisekitty:

I don't know why the Minishark is so recommended, To be frank, it doesn't do nearly enough DPS. Infact, I used a minishark the first time, with Every type of bullet imaginable, and it took around 10 Minutes for the thing to even have a dent in its health... Although, if I'm wrong about the DPS, someone correct me... Perhaps a weapon like the Phoenix Blaster would be better?

Full Necro Armor, (Superior) Phoenix Blaster, Meteor Shot and Beenades is what I used recently. Spamming Beenades does a ridiculous amount of damage. Even without those, the Phoenix Blaster on its own does pretty well. I don't remember the exact amount time it took but it's about a minute or so...maybe more...either way it didn't take long at all.

I've heard a lot of people like phoenix blaster, but

Advantages of the Minishark:

•Higher rate of fire
•Fully-Automatic
•33% chance of not consuming ammo or 46.7% if you are wearing Necro Armor
•Fires more bullets per shot
•More bullets means higher chance of hitting target (especially in cases like the Wall of Flesh where The Hungry block most of your bullets so you want any chance you can get at shooting around them)
•Great for obliterating swarms of weak enemies as well as doing reasonable damage to groups of stronger enemies.
•Can hold back stronger enemies

[Joshua Kurayami]

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

Originally posted by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Joshua Kurayami:

Minishark/Megashark/SDMG does very little damage

That's not true at all.

I'm talking about damage alone, not DPS.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Joshua Kurayami:

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

That's not true at all.

I'm talking about damage alone, not DPS.

pure damage is irrelevant. Sniper Rifle does TONS of damage, but it's so slow it's not worth using on bosses.

[Pancakekitty]

Magnet Sphere, I killed the WoF in 1 Minute. Literally

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Kit:

Magnet Sphere, I killed the WoF in 1 Minute. Literally

1. this has nothing to do with the topic.

2. You can't even get magnet sphere until WoF was killed. And plantera.

[Batmagoo]

Originally posted by Kit:

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

if it was that slow, it doesn't sound very good. I could probably beat it in 60 seconds with a minishark or whatever.

I don't know why the Minishark is so recommended, To be frank, it doesn't do nearly enough DPS. Infact, I used a minishark the first time, with Every type of bullet imaginable, and it took around 10 Minutes for the thing to even have a dent in its health... Although, if I'm wrong about the DPS, someone correct me... Perhaps a weapon like the Phoenix Blaster would be better?

Water bolt master race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQXso-L7Do

[FaelisongTalim]

Originally posted by BatmagO_O ITA:

Originally posted by Kit:

I don't know why the Minishark is so recommended, To be frank, it doesn't do nearly enough DPS. Infact, I used a minishark the first time, with Every type of bullet imaginable, and it took around 10 Minutes for the thing to even have a dent in its health... Although, if I'm wrong about the DPS, someone correct me... Perhaps a weapon like the Phoenix Blaster would be better?

Water bolt master race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQXso-L7Do

That was 2 years ago, in 1.1 -.-

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Leeevog:

Originally posted by BatmagO_O ITA:

Water bolt master race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQXso-L7Do

That was 2 years ago, in 1.1 -.-

It still works...

regardless, we're getting off topic again.

[FaelisongTalim]

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

Originally posted by Leeevog:

That was 2 years ago, in 1.1 -.-

It still works...

regardless, we're getting off topic again.

True. But what else is there to talk about in the explosives department?

Book of Skulls Master Race

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Leeevog:

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

It still works...

regardless, we're getting off topic again.

True. But what else is there to talk about in the explosives department?

Book of Skulls Master Race

There's other bosses besides WOF. For example, would it do any good against plantera, golem, pumpking, etc?

[FaelisongTalim]

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

Originally posted by Leeevog:

True. But what else is there to talk about in the explosives department?

Book of Skulls Master Race

There's other bosses besides WOF. For example, would it do any good against plantera, golem, pumpking, etc?

Plantera is probably not good, especially when most of the consumable explosives deal little to no damage, and you need to have insanely precise timing in order for the dynamite/bomb to have a head on explosion. WIth Rocket IIIs, however, it can prove useful if you aren't too clumsy in self damage. Landmines might work, but generally not worth the 5 gold.

Golem is obliterated by Explosives. Mass Spam of Dynamite will deal insane loads of damage to the Body and Fists. Landmines can be absurdly deadly when placed all over the floor; That is, if you can get a flat floor via Dungeon Bricks or Picksaw. And that you'd have to grapple onto the ceiling. Rockets deal quite little damage after some testing.

Pumpkin Moon in general could be done with Stynger and Rocket IIIs, as massive Splash Radius and Extreme damage can help players get past the first few waves with minimal effort. Against Pumpkins and Mourning Wood, your luck will run out.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Leeevog ᵒᵇᵃᵐᵃ:

Originally posted by Batabii - Waiting 4 SK update:

There's other bosses besides WOF. For example, would it do any good against plantera, golem, pumpking, etc?

WIth Rocket IIIs,.

For the sake of this thread, rockets are not considered "explosives" since the are launched at the enemy and explode on contact, unlike bombs and dynamite which are timed and have to be "set".

For the record, I haven't found rockets useful against enemies at all, and land mines are ludicrously expensive to use on mobs, only do burst damage (one hit at a time, like sniper rifle), and are far too obvious for pvp use.