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Most people can't afford to buy two to four separate computers and two to four copies of every game they get just to play multiplayer in the same room, anyone rich enough to do that is extremely privileged, and well outside the norm.
If you can't understand why it's unreasonable to expect people to pay a minimum of $400 to buy a separate system capable of running this, and another copy of the game, just to play two player with someone in the same building , then I don't know what to tell you.
But the console version has split screen functionality and controller support, and if the console version of the game has these features, then so should the PC version, and there's no reason for it not to.
Now I wonder if it really would be too much to ask. I really want to see this happen :/
It might be more satisfying to play local multiplayer than online or across the LAN but that only applies to some and i repeat SOME games and open world sandboxes aren't some of those games, wanna know why? Because you need all the screen space you can get to see what you're doing.
And i said and i quote
Removing a feature as small as local multiplayer? Riiiiiiiight, in fact i think it's the other way around like in Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing, consoles got online while we had to stick with splitscreen now THAT's unreasonable.
I really wish console gamers would just go back to consoles and consoles would stop competing with PC gaming because 75-90% of the time they lose.
*EDIT* thought i'd add, 400$ for a shoddy PC compared to 500 thereabouts and 550 thereabouts for an Xbox one and a Playstation 4 respectively + a subscription to play online something i might add has and always will be free in PC gaming.
On top of that you pay10$ for the PC version 20 for the Xbox 360 version and i would assume thereabouts for the Playstation 3 version, let's also not forget a special version which gives you 4 coppies for the price of 3 so if you're worried about the price tag you can always get that. Plus another copy is like 10 extra so if you're complaining about price then you're, again crying over spilt milk.
Before you complain about something kid, learn to research the facts otherwise you won't get far in the games industry or any industry that you use PCs for that matter.
Also note the prices for the consoles are in AUD so it might be different where you live.
And this is one of those games. A lot of people enjoyed the split screen multiplayer on console, there's something satisfying about working together with someone on the couch next to you to build something awesome, exploring the depths of caves and mines and getting eachothers backs, sharing loot, and so on.
There's already zooming functionality in the game and split screen works just fine on console so there's no reason it wouldn't work on PC.
It must be nice to be rich.
I said and I quote
It's your OPINION that it's a small feature I disagree, playing split screen could be a lot of fun, I've watched people play it on console and it looks like a lot of fun, I have relatives and friends in real life who might enjoy it, and I'm not so rich that I can spend $400+ just to play multiplayer, and I shouldn't have to because the game already has proven that split screen co-op works on console, if it works on console it would work just as well on PC or even better and there's no reason PC gamers should lack a gameplay feature that console gamers have.
It's stupid any time features are disabled for PC gamers, I'm not the one arguing in favor of that, you are. FYI People can play split screen local co-op on the PC version of Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed, and I'm pretty sure it has online multiplayer as well, because I've seen people play it on twitch.
You do a disservice to PC gaming by suggesting that split screen local co-op is only for console gamers. Split Screen local co op is for people who have friends and family in real life who play videogames, it's for people who like to play in the same room.
A. What you said is games like X and Elite Dangerous are good for local multiplayer.
B. It's not an opinion it's a FACT, PC gaming has been doing just fine without local multiplayer ever since we started with LAN and online multiplayer in the late '90s with games like Rise of the Triad and Quake.
C. I never said you couldn't, if you actually read the posts and check your facts like i said you would know that, i was pointing out how you can't go ONLINE with the PC version of that game, you know playing with other PC gamers? Ask any PC gamer, and any console gamer that actually has a brain, they will agree with me.
D. Tell me, what ratio of PC games do and don't have splitscreen that both were and weren't designed for PC?
E. You're right, it's probably better if i say "kids these days", remember you're not going to convince anyone if you blindly point the finger, find a set of facts that prove your point before starting threads like this, otherwise you're going to get a bad reputation.
I never even mentioned either of those games. I mentioned were Unreal Tournament 3 Black which people play split screen with a mod. Do you consider that a game for filthy console casuals?
It's your OPINION that split screen multiplayer is unimportant, a lot of PC gamers disagree, there are websites that list games with split screen and local co-op, local co-op is one of the most popular tags on Steam, we're in a new generation of PC gamers where gaming and PC gaming is wide spread enough that PC gamers actually know people in real life who play videogames, a lot of people like to play games together in the same room, I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to grasp.
I remember, LAN parties were a rare treat, normally it required a group investment to pool the resources together for it or some organized event, most people weren't wealthy enough to just have an anytime LAN party in their basement.
I'm not the one arguing that PC gamers should lack basic functions that console gamers have access to. Why are you telling me about this as if I'm the one in favor of taking options away from PC gamers? FYI in Sonic Allstars Racing Transformed you can play online AND split screen on the PC version.
Remember, I'm the one who thinks PC gamers should have access to the same features console gamers have access to.
No one has that information and you certainly don't, it's your OPINION and nothing but an opinion that it's an unimportant feature, a lot of groups of gamers disagree, and Valve apparantly disagreed when they made Portal 2. Terraria already has Split Screen Multiplayer, On Console, there's no reason PC gamers shouldn't have access to the same features.
You mean people who have family and friends in real life who play videogames?
B. I'm not even going to bother with this one you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
C. There you go again, i said All Stars Racing not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Racing Transformed, i know you can play online on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ transformed but i also know you can't on the PC version of All Stars Racing. If anything you should be pissed at Sega, because you can't play local and online AT THE SAME TIME on Sonic and all Stars Racing Transformed.
D. You just don't want to admit the truth, every other Half-Life game, at least on PC never got splitscreen, you wanna know why? Because they were designed around the PC with online and LAN multiplayer in mind, let's not forget splitscreen in Half-Life: Portal 2 was added later, and i mean much later as in a year or so later. Portal 2 is the only Half-Life and Valve game that has native splitscreen support, and don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me on Portal not being a Half-Life game, it kinda is, it's based in the same universe and like splitscreen not been designed with PC gaming in mind there are facts to prove that too. Anyway, that's another story.
Adding to the screen size problem, it may or may not look squished or stretched if you play splitscreen.
Terraria is a sandbox game on Console as well and split screen multiplayer works, and there's something satisfying about playing a game like that with someone in the same room and building something awesome together. Lack of Split Screen co-op denies PC gamers that experience, while console gamers can have it, and that's stupid there's no reason PC gamers should be denied the same features.
No I just disagree with your OPINION, just because you wouldn't play this game split screen multiplayer doesn't mean that others wouldn't.
Yeah ok excuse me for not making the distinction the first time but hey I agree that a PC game should have online play if the console version does, you're the one arguing against features for PC games here, not me.
I'm not the one in favor of PC gamers having fewer options than console gamers. I wrote a negative review for Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends in part for lacking online play because the console versions have it. You're acting like I'm somehow in favor of the idea that PC gamers should have fewer options than console gamers, that's the position you've been arguing, I've been arguing against it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlB8cEQ6WjI
Here we see the lengths people will go to in order to play the PC version of Borderlands split screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ic-gv-928I
Here we see the lengths people will go to in order to play Minecraft Split Screen Multiplayer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmYO88ay2I
But hey no one cares about Split Screen on PC because some people are privileged enough to have multiple PC's or never have anyone over to play in the same room with and assume that applies to everyone.
Technecally the UT3 splitscreen isn't a mod because it's enabled via a command console.
Also not making the distinction the first time? I said all stars racing and not all stars racing transformed, that's almost like saying Minecraft and everyone thinks i'm talking about Terraria.
Also again about the splitscreen opinion thing? With PC gaming multiplayer splitscreen isn't needed in fact it doesn't work because most PC games like this are designed around the keyboard and mouse and the only way around that is supporting multiple keyboards and mice and that setup is really bulky.
Although, the only way around the screen size problem is multi-monitor support, tell me can you do that on consoles?
I literally just linked to videos of three separate games that had splitscreen (or artificial split screen) enabled via mods, and you're twisting the context of what I said, obviously in context I'm talking about gameplay features that are present in the console version of the game but not the PC version.
No it doesn't, not unless one of those mods is a split screen mod that runs every bit as well as an official split screen option. You've argued against PC gamers having access to an option that console gamers do have access to, this isn't a competition between Console and PC, I'm not on Team Console I'm on team "PC Couch Co-Op stop arbitrarily restraining PC gamer's access to features"
But it's not enabled by default on PC, for PC gamers to play UT3 split screen they have to hack or mod it, and it's stupid that people even have to the developers should be ashamed of that fact and ashamed they never stepped up and added it in as an official option, but the fact that people have enough interest to put in the effort to mod it, and that split screen mods are so popular for it, proves PC gamer interest in split screen.
Yes it is, it's needed by people who have actual friends and family who play videogames and don't have the resources to put together multiple computers and buy multiple copies of every game they want to play multiplayer on PC, just because you don't need it doesn't mean that others don't.
Terraria has controller support on console and there's no reason it shouldn't on PC as well.
The only thing you can really do is email the developers, although the chances of them reading your message is slim.
Back to Red Cyka's usual posts.
A. Proving my point, you can MOD splitscreen or use some other way to put it in, my bro used an xbox 360 controller mod to add a sort of splitscreen into Minecraft.
B. It might not be enabled by default but all you have to do is put in a command or two in the console and you're in, and that's all you have to "hack" to enable it.
C. No it isn't, i play with my bro across the LAN all the time and he plays with his RL friends via the internet through Steam, they even talk via skype so your logic is, as usual, rendered invalid.
D. You wanna know why the console ports of Terraria have controller support? Because they HAVE to, especially the Xbox 360 version because there aren't any keyboards and mice you can attach to it, that i know of and even if there was there woulden't be many people that use it. I mean would they force you to use the Kinect on that game simply because hand movements are more like mouse swipes than flicking the joysticks?
In fact some games that ONLY have splitscreen and seem like they would benefit with online, sorry to use another Sonic game as an example but Sonic adventure 2 and also Warhammer 40K Killteam are two such examples. Like i said earlier it depends on the game if splitscreen is necessary or not, just because the console port has it doesn't mean the PC version NEEDS it. Going back to my point when i said that when some games ONLY have splitscreen on PC need online or at the very least some kind of LAN play, but i guess in-home streaming can fix that.
You're the type of person who opposes the idea of local co-op just for the sake of opposition? Because he was obviously addressing me, not you, you're the one opposing features, I'm the one saying PC gamers should have access to features.
Modding splitscreen is no simple task for a lot of games, and it's inferior to officially supported split screen in a lot of cases, the lengths people must go to in order to hack ARTIFICIAL split screen into Borderlands 2 is ridiculous, and then there are technical problems with it.
It's a poor substitute that isn't easy to pull off with a lot of games and isn't as good a lot of the time, and developers should be ashamed and embarressed any time the mod community has to do it, because they failed to and they couldn't be bothered to give it the time of day, and it's stupid when Split Screen is avaliable in a console version of a game but not allowed by developers on PC, there's no reason for that.
Only for UT3 specifically. It's far more complicated for modders to do for Borderlands 2 for instance, the developers arbitrarily removed split screen from the game, they just up and decided PC gamers weren't going to be allowed to use it, and they didn't give PC gamers a way to enable it by console. By the way, it's idiotic that people even have to enter command lines in the first place, why make PC gamers do that? Why force that added hassle on PC gamers?
You're wrong for reasons I've explained. I don't care if you plan lan, play lan, no one is saying you shouldn't, but other people shouldn't have to buy seperate systems and seperate copies to play co op in the same room. Not everyone is so privileged.
And there's no reason to disallow PC gamers from using a feature that's avaliable on console, saying they add a feature on console because they have to is no argument for why PC gamers should be denied the ability to access that feature.
And what's you point?
You don't get to determine whether or not it's necessary, according to your logic it's never necessary because someone could just spend $4000 on separate computer systems and $200 on seperate copies of a game to play local lan, but that's an unreasonable burden to place on PC gamers and no one should ever have to in order to play PC multiplayer in the same room for a game that has split screen on the console version.
B. The lack of decent splitscreen even via mods further proves your logic as invalid.
C. I'm right for for reasons you've explained, you don't need local multiplayer to play with RL friends and family.
D. Again proving my point, you should be whining about the lack of ONLINE play in those games on PC because that actually is a big thing in comparison.
E. Going back to when you said you're not a console hammer legion member, if you weren't you woulden't get so uptight about the lack of local MP on the console port of a PC game.
Also on a game like this or Minecraft you don't really need many powerful computers to act as clients, you just need a semi-decent PC for the host and even then you don't really need a powerful GPU, just a bit of ram about 8 gig at most, maybie a little more and at least an I3 or I5 CPU with tri or quad cores.
Remember games like this have a special version that gives you 4 copies for the price of 3, how many friends did you say you had? 2? You could've gotten a 4 pack and gifted the other two via Steam and you would have a spare for a third person.
As we've been saying, you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥' over nothing, and you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Let's not forget buying each copy individually, buying the PC version of Terraria costs $10 which means 100 times 10 is 1000, try buying the same amount of copies on Xbox or Playstation, it's 20 so you'll be playing 10 more for each copy the same game, oh and let's buy the 4 pack 100 times, which means 30x100 is 3000 but you also get 400 copies of the game, it's basic maths kid.