Hardmode jungle turning to hallow/corruption/crimson

[Super Searcher]

I don't know what anyone else thinks about this effect, but I'm starting to get very ticked off by it. The way these three biomes take over the natural jungle is crazy and totally useless. EPSECIALLY the way they change the MUD to DIRT. I don't know if this is the right place to make game suggestions, but I may as well. I would suggest either taking this effect completely out of the game, or making new hallow/courrupt/crimson jungles with their own special mud blocks. So one can just go over the desired areas with the Clentaminator. Anyone else have some thoughts or opinions? Or does anyone know of a way to fix this that I may have missed?

[Pixel Peeper]

You have to protect your Jungle, there's nothing else you can do.

Definitely not a design choice I'd have personally made, but I guess they wanted corruption to really feel threatening.

Of course, if that's their motivation, it's weird that this is the only biome to suffer permanent damage due to corruption. You can just cleanse corruption off of everything else, but your Jungle might be entirely destroyed.

I don't know if this is ever going to be changed, but until it is... make sure you isolate your Jungle before Hardmode.

[Buster]

Can't you make your own jungle? Anyways I was under the impression that the hallow did not remove the jungle but merely changes the stone to pearlstone, was this changed?

[Diet Dr. Beta]

Yes Buster. The three spreading plagues of Terraria (Corruption, Crimson, and Hallow) will convert all mud blocks to dirt. Then make the grass on it whatever their grass type is. It will in the process essentially kill a jungle entirely. Leaving behind nothing but a temple and some beehives.

[Pixel Peeper]

You can recreate a Jungle biome with Mud and Jungle Grass Seeds.

The thing is, if you're Jungle's been fully corrupted, there's not a whole lot of mud left on your world, and unless you saved some Seeds, you can't get them there either.

You'd have to go to another world, collect a boatload of Mud and some Seeds, bring it back to yours, dig out a ton of Dirt and replace it with Mud, then plant Seeds and wait for the Jungle grass to spread. The time investment of this entire task is... well, let's just say you don't want to have to do it.

Unless you intend to progress very quickly in Hardmode and cleanse everything away, a 3-block gap all around your Jungle (preferrably before Hardmode) is practically a necessity. I'd make one 3-block Hellevator on each side of it, just to be safe, and make sure Hardmode corruption doesn't hit inside that protected area (else you have to quanrantine it).

Yeah... I guess corruption really is a huge pain thanks to this Mud to Dirt conversion.

[verarticus]

引用自 Tripoteur Ventripotent：

You can recreate a Jungle biome with Mud and Jungle Grass Seeds.

The thing is, if you're Jungle's been fully corrupted, there's not a whole lot of mud left on your world, and unless you saved some Seeds, you can't get them there either.

You'd have to go to another world, collect a boatload of Mud and some Seeds, bring it back to yours, dig out a ton of Dirt and replace it with Mud, then plant Seeds and wait for the Jungle grass to spread. The time investment of this entire task is... well, let's just say you don't want to have to do it.

Unless you intend to progress very quickly in Hardmode and cleanse everything away, a 3-block gap all around your Jungle (preferrably before Hardmode) is practically a necessity. I'd make one 3-block Hellevator on each side of it, just to be safe, and make sure Hardmode corruption doesn't hit inside that protected area (else you have to quanrantine it).

Yeah... I guess corruption really is a huge pain thanks to this Mud to Dirt conversion.

Damn mud, it's to bad you can't just combine water and dirt to get mud....oh wait you can.

[PickPig]

引用自 Tripoteur Ventripotent：

You can recreate a Jungle biome with Mud and Jungle Grass Seeds.

The thing is, if you're Jungle's been fully corrupted, there's not a whole lot of mud left on your world, and unless you saved some Seeds, you can't get them there either.

You'd have to go to another world, collect a boatload of Mud and some Seeds, bring it back to yours, dig out a ton of Dirt and replace it with Mud, then plant Seeds and wait for the Jungle grass to spread. The time investment of this entire task is... well, let's just say you don't want to have to do it.

Unless you intend to progress very quickly in Hardmode and cleanse everything away, a 3-block gap all around your Jungle (preferrably before Hardmode) is practically a necessity. I'd make one 3-block Hellevator on each side of it, just to be safe, and make sure Hardmode corruption doesn't hit inside that protected area (else you have to quanrantine it).

Yeah... I guess corruption really is a huge pain thanks to this Mud to Dirt conversion.

Well, You still HAVE mud in your world, thats at the BOTTOM of the Jungle and Glowing Mushroom Biomes

[Pixel Peeper]

Oh yeah, I forgot you can do that... man, it feels like forever ago I last used water as a crafting station.

Not much of a point, though; digging up 12,000 blocks of Dirt, converting them and putting them back in isn't fun. Neither is waiting for grass to grow back.

Protect your Jungle.

The first world I made, I didn't know about the conversion and my Jungle got destroyed. Took me hours to cleanse the map too, just because I used 2-block gaps when digging vertically. Second time, with 3-block tunnels everywhere (and especially around my Jungle), I isolated the corruption and it just wasn't a problem. Really wish I'd known that the first time around.

[berserkedfrenzy]

I'm sorry, but the Hallow does not convert Mud into Dirt. It cannot destroy the Jungle Biome.

I know this because I have a world whose Jungle is protected from the Crimson by the Hallow. It reached only parts of the jungle where the Dirt was already there or areas where I'd used the Purification Powder to purify blocks of Crimson and the Hallow crossed over onto those blocks.

Nevertheless, Jungle getting destroyed by Corruption and Crimson is indeed a huge pain ... I don't know why they made it so, though ..... Beats me, man.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Yep, spreading the Hallow near your Jungle is a safe way how to protect the Jungle.
Corruption and Crimson can convert mud to dirt, but Hallow can't. Unless it was changed in the latest patch, which I doubt

That said, I don't like fact that Corruption/Crimson can destroy the Jungle very much, either.
IMHO it would be much more interesting if Corrupted jungle became... well, a Corrupted Jungle, not just a plain old Corruption.
The monsters that are normally found in the jungle would mutate into something, the grass would turn unhealthy dark green-brown-ish... Yeah, that's something I could live with

[Super Searcher]

引用自 Lucky Thirteen：

Yep, spreading the Hallow near your Jungle is a safe way how to protect the Jungle.
Corruption and Crimson can convert mud to dirt, but Hallow can't. Unless it was changed in the latest patch, which I doubt :tbpwink:

That said, I don't like fact that Corruption/Crimson can destroy the Jungle very much, either.
IMHO it would be much more interesting if Corrupted jungle became... well, a Corrupted Jungle, not just a plain old Corruption.
The monsters that are normally found in the jungle would mutate into something, the grass would turn unhealthy dark green-brown-ish... Yeah, that's something I could live with :tbphappy:

Lucky, I am 100% sure that the hallow can convert mud to dirt. I've seen it happen, even in my artificial jungle.

[ShadyMofo86]

Best thing one can do is make a hellavator and cut off the jungle from the other blocks. It is not perfect, but it was the only way I kept my jungle intact.

[Lucky Thirteen]

引用自 Super Searcher：

Lucky, I am 100% sure that the hallow can convert mud to dirt. I've seen it happen, even in my artificial jungle.

That's strange, because I'm 100% sure Hallow cannot convert mud to dirt :
Ever since I triggered Hardmode in my World some months ago, my Jungle is protected by Hallow and the mud is intact.

Last time I checked, it wasn't changed in the new patches (1.2.3 or 1.2.3.1), so mud should still prevent Hallow from spreading O.o
Wiki doesn't mention any changes since Hallow was introduced, either.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

引用自 Lucky Thirteen：

引用自 Super Searcher：

Lucky, I am 100% sure that the hallow can convert mud to dirt. I've seen it happen, even in my artificial jungle.

That's strange, because I'm 100% sure Hallow cannot convert mud to dirt ::tbpwtf:
Ever since I triggered Hardmode in my World some months ago, my Jungle is protected by Hallow and the mud is intact.

Last time I checked, it wasn't changed in the new patches (1.2.3 or 1.2.3.1), so mud should still prevent Hallow from spreading O.o
Wiki doesn't mention any changes since Hallow was introduced, either.

I agree with lucky thirteen.

[Medra]

The first thing I did after going into hardmode (for the first time ever) I bought hallowed seeds, created holy water and threw it everywhere. all future problems solved and I'm still playing on my world for like 150 hours now. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Simply make sure that the hallowed places in your world are big enough.. so that they actually overwhelm crimson/corruption, because the 3 fight each other.

[Super Searcher]

Ok, I just tested to see if the hallow actually does take over mud blocks. I found out that the Clentaminator CAN change jungle to hallow dirt, but the hallow CAN NOT change the mud on its own. So I guess what I witnessed in my natural and artificial jungle was the aftermath of the corupption coming in. (Which I have taken care of now.) So the major danger after the corupption/crimson is a trigger-happy Clentaminator Wielder.