What classifies as a Summoner weapon?

[Bamblok]

Y'know, besides minions.

I mean, from what I've seen, the Crimson Rod and Nimbus Rod are both classified as the only "summoner weapons" by the community. However, I'm not exactly sure what makes them the "only" summoner weapons.

I'm guessing that a summoner weapon is a weapon that summons a thing, whether it's living or nonliving. If so, wouldn't the Book of Skulls, Bee Gun, Wasp Gun, Bat Scepter, Spectre Staff, and Meteor Staff be Summoner weapons? (Summons Skulls, Bees, Meteors, etc.)

The difference between the weapons I'm talking about and normal magic weapons are that normal magic weapons create the attacks out of thin air using magic. (Magical Harp, Flower of Frost, Rainbow Rod, etc.)

Or maybe the Clinger Staff, Magnet Sphere, and Rainbow Gun count because they work so similarly to Crimson/Nimbus Rod?

Or maybe I'm just wrong about everything I've said in this entire post. I dunno.


Because I'm gonna start a Summoner playthrough soon and I'm wondering if I'm gonna have to go through Pillars + Moon Lord with my only actual weapon being a Nimbus Rod.

TLDR VERSION: Are there any summoner weapons besides Crimson/Nimbus Rod?

[Bone Jovi]

Do you mean "Summoner Weapon" as in, a weapon that causes damage that doesn't come directly from the Hero? In that case, weapons like the Meteor Staff, Blizzard Staff, and Starfury would qualify. Otherwise, you'd be talking about Minion summoning items.

[Bamblok]

I mean weapons that a Summoner class would be allowed to use.

[Zenarkenstin]

Any of the turret weapons.

Probably Clinger Staff? That seems pretty summon-y to me. Rainbow Gun and Magnet Sphere are too direct for me to consider a Summoner weapon, but it's really all opinion anyway.

[Darqfalls]

The only summoner weapons are those that require mana once, and then it will deal damage from there, multiple times. Like the Nimbus Staff, Rainbow Gun, etc. Whereas other Magic weapons require you to keep casting the spell in question to consistently do damage.

[Softshine798]

Stardust Tier Weapons, Pygmies, Spiders ( Sentry and Mobile), and Frost Hydra (Sentry)
Also, the Rods are Magic, not Summoner

[Bamblok]

引用自 Zenarkenstin：

Any of the turret weapons.

Probably Clinger Staff? That seems pretty summon-y to me. Rainbow Gun and Magnet Sphere are too direct for me to consider a Summoner weapon, but it's really all opinion anyway.

引用自 Darqfalls：

The only summoner weapons are those that require mana once, and then it will deal damage from there, multiple times. Like the Nimbus Staff, Rainbow Gun, etc. Whereas other Magic weapons require you to keep casting the spell in question to consistently do damage.

Yeah, I felt the same about the Clinger Staff.


I was thinking the same thing at first, but then I realized how dumb I would sound if I said "Would a summoner weapon be a weapon that sticks around for a long period of time and damages anything that gets in it's way, or a weapon that actually summons stuff?".

[Bamblok]

引用自 CL4P-TP ( On vacation)：

Stardust Tier Weapons, Pygmies, Spiders ( Sentry and Mobile), and Frost Hydra (Sentry)
Also, the Rods are Magic, not Summoner

While the Rods are techically magic weapons, the community classifies them as Summoner weapons because they summon clouds... actually, I dunno, that's what this thread was about.

[Darqfalls]

引用自 rlreid44：

引用自 CL4P-TP ( On vacation)：

Stardust Tier Weapons, Pygmies, Spiders ( Sentry and Mobile), and Frost Hydra (Sentry)
Also, the Rods are Magic, not Summoner

While the Rods are techically magic weapons, the community classifies them as Summoner weapons because they summon clouds... actually, I dunno, that's what this thread was about.

Actually, the community classifies them as magic weapons. Technically, you're stuck with weapons that only summon minions or turrets. Everything else is magic.

[Bamblok]

引用自 Darqfalls：

引用自 rlreid44：

While the Rods are techically magic weapons, the community classifies them as Summoner weapons because they summon clouds... actually, I dunno, that's what this thread was about.

Actually, the community classifies them as magic weapons. Technically, you're stuck with weapons that only summon minions or turrets. Everything else is magic.

The community classifies it as a summoner weapon.

What about Yrimir, the popular Terraria Youtuber who used the Nimbus Rod in his Summoner playthrough?

[Darqfalls]

引用自 rlreid44：

引用自 Darqfalls：

Actually, the community classifies them as magic weapons. Technically, you're stuck with weapons that only summon minions or turrets. Everything else is magic.

The community classifies it as a summoner weapon.

What about Yrimir, the popular Terraria Youtuber who used the Nimbus Rod in his Summoner playthrough?

Yrimir gives no shits, he does what he wants lmao

[Vamatti™]

Summon damage = part of summoner class

[Pixel Peeper]

引用自 DDomstar：

Summon damage = part of summoner class

This would be my definition too.

If it summons minions that deal Summon damage, it's a Summoner weapon.

Not that it can't be used by other classes, it's just way better for Summoners than others.

Nimbus Rod is most definitely *not* a Summoner weapon.

[Darqfalls]

Summon damage is a thing now? I haven't really paid much attention to the summoner items since 1.3 hit lol.

Or was it always a thing and I just don't pay attention?

Regardless, that's definitely the way to tell.

[ImpTaimer]

Summon weapons specifically state Summon damage.

Items that increase minion values work with Summon damage.

You can have 1 minion by default, and increased by gear/buffs. They stay with you and act as a buff, and can have different minions activated.

You can only have 1 turret up regardless of # of minions.(?) (spider queen, frost hydra, etc).