How are summoners supposed to survive?

[FDru]

I was always annoyed with summoner gear because it made my character squishy as hell. So after I made the Stardust armor I thought I'd give that a try, since I could get about 48 defense with it, which didn't seem too bad. 10 minutes into the dungeon I get killed by lost souls (or whatever those homing projectiles from the casters are called)... like, what is the point? Summons are nice supplemental damage but if summoner gear is just going to get you killed then it's kind of useless.

[themageoftheage]

summoner is all about dodging attacks and letting your summons do the work,so if you cant dodge u cant be summoner

[prpl_mage]

Gonna gree with you. The stardust armor is pretty good though with a defense on par with the spectre set. But most of the time I rely on accessories for damage bonus and equip the beetle armour.

[ToastedTyler]

The summoner class is for people with good eyes that can follow fast attacks like lasers from mobs. You just gota dodge the attacks not get to close to the boss and let your summons you should have atleast 5/6 by moon lord if not even more. It is a class for someone who is looking for a challange

[Borch TrzyKawki]

kepp in mind summoner still can use non summoning weapons, vamp knives can make you squishing proof, at some certain situations.

[Guywars]

I never understood classes in Terraria, do they even exist?
I played quite a bit of this game with my friends and we just grabbed one weapon per type and killed everything, we had no class.
Can't you use your summoning weapons with a strong melee armor?
Or is it just a matter of roleplay and immersion?

[Delthea]

Summoners trade defense for evasion. You don't even need to know where your opponent is to damage it. You focus only on learning the boss attack pattern and getting out of the way.

[Nelyeth]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Senpai Plz:

I never understood classes in Terraria, do they even exist?
I played quite a bit of this game with my friends and we just grabbed one weapon per type and killed everything, we had no class.
Can't you use your summoning weapons with a strong melee armor?
Or is it just a matter of roleplay and immersion?

Later in the game (starting at hardmode), you have to pick a "class", because accessories and armor sets only give bonuses to these classes. You can still use a bow with a melee armor, but you'll loose efficiency.

That, and as you said, roleplay. I just don't like using summons on a warrior, even though it's basically free dps. Anyway, without a summon-oriented armor, I'd only have one summon at a time, with subpar damage compared to any melee weapon.

[Nelyeth]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Senpai Plz:

I never understood classes in Terraria, do they even exist?
I played quite a bit of this game with my friends and we just grabbed one weapon per type and killed everything, we had no class.
Can't you use your summoning weapons with a strong melee armor?
Or is it just a matter of roleplay and immersion?

Later in the game (starting at hardmode), you have to pick a "class", because accessories and armor sets only give bonuses to these classes. You can still use a bow with a melee armor, but you'll loose efficiency.

That, and as you said, roleplay. I just don't like using summons on a warrior, even though it's basically free dps. Anyway, without a summon-oriented armor, I'd only have one summon at a time, with subpar damage compared to any melee weapon.


Now, OP, I'd recommend a youtube summoner playthrough, so you can see how it can work out. Check out the "Hagrid" playthrough by Yrimir (the best terraria youtuber out there if you ask me), in which he only uses summons and crimson/nimbus rod with a hardcore character.

[FDru]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Senpai Plz:

I never understood classes in Terraria, do they even exist?
I played quite a bit of this game with my friends and we just grabbed one weapon per type and killed everything, we had no class.
Can't you use your summoning weapons with a strong melee armor?
Or is it just a matter of roleplay and immersion?

I'd say the main thing is that summons are severely limited unless you specifically gear for them. Without summoner gear you can summon only 1 thing. With summoner gear + accessories you can summon up to 10(?), but to even get 5 you need a full set of summoner gear.

[76561198202887398]

try the seprte armor it heals you

[Kira]

I have a feeling you are using boots and wings in your important accessory slots. That is a big mistake. Unlike spectres or turtle/solar summoners don't have good protection or life drain. You need to use a mount, hooks, and ninja dodge to move around without using boots or wings. You should be able to do this, because you should nto be focused on doing damage your job is to not get hit.

Celestial shell: best item in the game, use it with every build
anhk shield: warding gives you 8 def and massive resists, hard to pass up
papyrus scarab: massive damage boost and an extra minion, must have
master ninja gear: the evasion lasts a very long time and completely blocks damage
frozen turtle shell: %25 reduction under %50 life. Basically increases your life from 500 > 562.

As you can see 4 of our equips are boosting our survivability and only one for damage. When you have 7 stardust cells and 1 stardust dragon out(or better), you can let them deal all the damage while you focus on not taking damage. When you get a chance to attack throw out some of your best magic or something, you won't do much damage with anything because you don't have bonuses.

[Pixel Peeper]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kira:

Celestial shell: best item in the game, use it with every build
anhk shield: warding gives you 8 def and massive resists, hard to pass up
papyrus scarab: massive damage boost and an extra minion, must have
master ninja gear: the evasion lasts a very long time and completely blocks damage
frozen turtle shell: %25 reduction under %50 life. Basically increases your life from 500 > 562.

You really use Frozen Turtle Shell over Summoner Emblem?

I would think that dealing over 15% more damage with minions (thus killing threats sooner) would lead to much more damage prevention in the long run... especially since the Shell threshold can be bypassed (you go from 51% to 30% HP, and only then does the reduction start applying).

[Kira]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tripoteur Ventripotent:

You really use Frozen Turtle Shell over Summoner Emblem?

Yea with the entire set at warding, it puts me at 69 def. I can solo moon lord in about 50 secs and 1-3 nurse heals. (depends on ninja evasion luck) You can do a great deal of damage with vortex beater and a pumpkin pie without any kind of gear for it. You could do well with a destroyer/avenger/ect emblem sure, but the frozen shell has saved me more thana few times.

[Tapak]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Senpai Plz:

I never understood classes in Terraria, do they even exist?
I played quite a bit of this game with my friends and we just grabbed one weapon per type and killed everything, we had no class.
Can't you use your summoning weapons with a strong melee armor?
Or is it just a matter of roleplay and immersion?

You can do Summoner Playthrough, If you dont know GOD of Terraria Yrimir playing HC Character Summoner and cant use anything else but living things so Pets. even with bosses like destroyer etc.

[76561198027586553]

get the anti-gravity hook from martian madness

helps dodging a ton and has many other uses