Nebula, best Melee armor as well?

[emperorehryn]

Yes, yes it is.

You might be thinking, how can Mage armor be the best Melee armor?

It's the freaking buffs man. They are ridiculous. If you don't know what i'm talking about, wearing a Nebula armor set gives your damage a chance of creating a floating little buff. These buffs are health regeneration, mana regeneration, and damage %, and they stack quite a bit.

In high mob concentrated areas, it's nothing to get several stacks of damage boosting buffs and have like a 45%+ damage increase. This is what makes Nebula better than Solar Flare for melee.

You can argue all you'd like that Solar Flare's defense and shield make it better but I'll tell you any day of the week, expert moonlord doesn't care what you wear, If you mess up once, you're going to die. So just rock some Nebula and spam the crap out of those buffs.

For example.. Full solar flare, full menacing accessories, my Terrarian sits at around 420. If I switch solar flare out for Nebula, have a few damage buffs goin, easily 480 or more. And any damage you do take heals right back from your health regen buffs.

Your pets create buffs as well, and your buffs will count for near by allies as well, so your whole crew can be glowy and OP.

[Muggi]

I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the buff to only spawn if the damage was magical. Nebula armor sure is the strongest one when it comes to raw damage, and I'm pretty sure it will get either nerfed or changed in the future.

[Bomjus]

tbh ive been thinking of trying the moon lord fight with the SDMG and the sniper scope accessory but with nebula armor on. not as much dps as the last prism with a mana regen potion or the terrarian with yoyo gear but with chloro bullets and the buffs would be super safe. but for the pillars nothing is easier than just using the last prism to sweep left and right

[Zelph]

I would disagree. Simply because while you may be able to boost your regen or damage, your damage is still going to be lower then with the solar flares. With the extra 30 armor, you take much less damage, not even factoring in the shield from the solar flare armor.

So, you do a little less damage, have more health regen, but take more damage, and lose a mobility option. Alongside having to collect buffs constantly to survive. Nice when you are using magic, since its buffed so much, not so much for melee, where all of the armors bonuses, buffs aside, don't matter.

[emperorehryn]

omegareaper7 eredeti hozzászólása:

I would disagree. Simply because while you may be able to boost your regen or damage, your damage is still going to be lower then with the solar flares. With the extra 30 armor, you take much less damage, not even factoring in the shield from the solar flare armor.

So, you do a little less damage, have more health regen, but take more damage, and lose a mobility option. Alongside having to collect buffs constantly to survive. Nice when you are using magic, since its buffed so much, not so much for melee, where all of the armors bonuses, buffs aside, don't matter.

Fun fact the shield factors itself in despite what you get hit with. And the shield is more useful as a dodge than an actual shield, when vs an Expert Moon Lord.

i've rolled up with almost 100 armor and still get hit for 200+ by his lazer. When it comes down to it, as I said, you are going to get hit, and going to die anyway.

The Nebula Health Regeneration buffs will keep your HP up better than potions will anyway. Much better.

[Pixel Peeper]

Beetle Armor gives +30% melee damage *and* +30% melee speed bonuses on top of its natural melee bonuses, making Nebula's +45% damage bonus look like trash. Even if Nebula's HP regen is slightly better than the Defense difference, there is simply no better armor set for melee than Beetle Armor.

That said, it's interesting that the Nebula bonuses (damage and health regen) are usable regardless of your weapon choice. Not sure they'll bother to change it since there is no build that can efficiently exploit it.

[FDru]

Even the Solar Flare armor provides better melee damage overall (unless you're talking about YoYos which don't gain damage from melee speed), on top of having better defense, and a shield that damages enemies when you get hit.

So, I'm going to have to say no.. Nebula is not better melee armor lol

[Terraria's Darkest Mage]

A melee needs lots of armor because you need to do all the close combats. Solar is still the best armor because with the right accesories you can buff your defense up to 148 which is crazy because you only take 1 damage from expert hardmode mechs

[Democracy Enjoyer]

I'm just tired of mother ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ taking MY buffs! They're mine! Get your own, stardust loser! #NebulaMasterRace

[Pixel Peeper]

Terraria's Darkest Mage eredeti hozzászólása:

A melee needs lots of armor because you need to do all the close combats. Solar is still the best armor because with the right accesories you can buff your defense up to 148 which is crazy because you only take 1 damage from expert hardmode mechs

Most endgame melee weapons are ranged. Yoyos also have long range (melee speed bonuses increase range) and are available throughout the game.

Defense does get better as you get more of it, but at some point you're crippling your attack power. If you're fighting hardmode mechs using endgame gear, you'd want to maximize your DPS to just kill them in seconds. The sooner you kill something, the less time it has to hurt you. It's best to find the appropriate balance for every encounter and go with that.

But yes... Nebula's bonuses don't bring it in line with Solar, much less Beetle, so it's simply not a very good option if you're going to use a melee weapon.

[Bomjus]

all builds aside, if you are playing with more people than just yourself someone should be wearing nebula armor considering if you pick up the buff with an ally within 30 tiles of you they get the buff as well. 12 hp per second 45% damage (and mana regen i guess but not as vital) is insane for any party. that 12 hp per second might help your buddy in solar armor tank the moon lord for an extra minute. letting your vortex stealthed buddy over there with a 250 damage 50% crit chance SDMG ♥♥♥♥♥♥ go to town. nebula 4 lyfe

[Pixel Peeper]

That's one point I can't argue against. In multiplayer, buffing everyone else has got to be very efficient.

...but then again, if you're in a group and wearing Nebula, you might want to use a Magic weapon over a melee one anyway, haha.

[Bomjus]

oh ya i go to sleep with my last prism under my pillow

[Slytreecko]

Bomjus eredeti hozzászólása:

oh ya i go to sleep with my last prism under my pillow

and my mom said i was the only one

[emperorehryn]

Bomjus we should test it later. Get a 3 or 4 man mage melee and range in nebula and see how it goes