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Ir0n_Revverb 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 8:27
Buff Master Ninja Gear?
It simply seems too underpowered to be used in an accessory slot, even if it provides a massive amount of mobility and a dodge chance.

Considering a end-endgame Master Ninja Gear that can be combined with the Frostspark boots, or whatever other Mobility boots may be avalible at the time?

The great Anhk Sheild of mobility? Seriously, am I the only tank that doesn't want to get momentum for a solid two seconds before my speed boost activates, and I sure don't want a Shield of Cthulu dash that BOUNCES me off of the enemy I collide with, I figure the entire idea of dashing would be to escape/slip past danger, not bounce of the danger and get pummeled.
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Gysahl Greens 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 8:55 
Personally I think it's OK the way it is. I even favor it over Ankh Shield most of the time. I find that dashing away from everything into safe(r) areas is a lot more survivable than 10~20 more defense to mitigate damage taken. Though with that said, I mostly do favor mobility for my accs setup. Usually it's: 1) Wings, 2) Master Ninja Gear (in the open) or Ankh Shield (cramped spaces), 3) Frostspark Boots, 4) Charm of Myths (most of the time) or Coin Ring or a dmg acc, 5) Star Veil (most of the time) or a dmg acc.

Regarding the momentum build up for speed boots, I mainly hop and then fire my grappling hook at the ground ahead and then let go of my hook to get the speed boost. It takes a while to get used to and is more difficult to do on bumpy ground but it's great to use. If wings are equipped though this trick is sort of obsolete as flying is faster than running with Frostspark Boots after hitting flight max speed. Peculiarly, moving diagonally during the ascent or descent glide also forces your character to move faster horizontally due to the system of the game.

(I play nearly exclusively single-player, minus the times I help build areas that my younger brother needs to have.)
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 9:30 
i was thinking this as well
boots + masterninja gear
since unless its expert you only get 5 slots
i mean it would go hand in hand
dashing and the speed boost comes naturally
also maybe be able to walk sideways on walls
just a food for though
最後修改者:Fumo Bnnuy n Frends; 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 9:30
Ir0n_Revverb 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 9:33 
i was thinking this as well
boots + masterninja gear
since unless its expert you only get 5 slots
i mean it would go hand in hand
dashing and the speed boost comes naturally
also maybe be able to walk sideways on walls
just a food for though
I like all but the walking on walls, that seems wayyyy too OP.
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 9:37 
i was thinking this as well
boots + masterninja gear
since unless its expert you only get 5 slots
i mean it would go hand in hand
dashing and the speed boost comes naturally
also maybe be able to walk sideways on walls
just a food for though
I like all but the walking on walls, that seems wayyyy too OP.
oh as opposed to what
gravity potions/gravity orbs (expert)
and flying saucers
Ir0n_Revverb 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 9:40 
I like all but the walking on walls, that seems wayyyy too OP.
oh as opposed to what
gravity potions/gravity orbs (expert)
and flying saucers
The mounts and such exist for a reason, don't discredit them in favor of a unnessesary buff element.
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 9:42 
oh as opposed to what
gravity potions/gravity orbs (expert)
and flying saucers
The mounts and such exist for a reason, don't discredit them in favor of a unnessesary buff element.
whatever
still it would be nice to combine the 2 as to not take up 2 individual slots
boots + master ninja gear
or at the very least boots + climbing gear
Ir0n_Revverb 2015 年 8 月 24 日 下午 10:39 
The mounts and such exist for a reason, don't discredit them in favor of a unnessesary buff element.
whatever
still it would be nice to combine the 2 as to not take up 2 individual slots
boots + master ninja gear
or at the very least boots + climbing gear
Very heavily agreed
Celator 2015 年 8 月 25 日 上午 12:50 
引用自 blinkmoth
it would not be OP, at all. nobody uses boots and wings in late game because you use your slots for actual fighting gear.

I beg to differ. I love my wings because they give me way more mobility than any mount, making them invaluable for boss fights. Come to think of it, that may be why you always seem to undervalue dodging, lol.

IMO the functions of the MNG are cool, but ultimately useless. Once you have wings or even a grappling hook the wall climbing becomes obsolete, while the dash and occasional invulnerability aren't worth the accessory slot they take up (and in the case of the invulnerability, its unreliability makes it outclassed by other defensive items). It'd be okay with me if they added a combination with another, more useful accessory, since it's basically harmless, but honestly I'd rather they just let it fall into obscurity where it belongs.

The dash is also outclassed by both the Shield of Cthulhu and the Solar Flare armor's set bonus, both of which are much better items.
I would LOVE being able to straight up climb walls like Ryu Hayabusa. It's not even overpowered when you can easily use rope/grapple/etc.

Actually I'd love a mount before Golem that, instead of flying or jumping, can "orbit" around walls like a Spider Ball.

https://pbandpickle.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/metroid-ii-spiderball.gif
it really annoys me that I can't somehow combine the shield of cthulhu with the black belt.
Ir0n_Revverb 2015 年 8 月 25 日 下午 7:23 
I, for one, hated the ♥♥♥♥ out of SoC. The fact that the dash BOUNCES you backwards killed me so often. If you try and dash out of a corner and make an escape, you'll just get tossed back into that corner and get destroyed. MNG + Ankh Shield makes it so that you can dash past any troublesom situation with no bouncing or knockback to block you, it's amazing for getting out of tough areas.
I, for one, hated the ♥♥♥♥ out of SoC. The fact that the dash BOUNCES you backwards killed me so often. If you try and dash out of a corner and make an escape, you'll just get tossed back into that corner and get destroyed.
Why are you cornered to begin with?
Celator 2015 年 8 月 25 日 下午 8:25 
I, for one, hated the ♥♥♥♥ out of SoC. The fact that the dash BOUNCES you backwards killed me so often. If you try and dash out of a corner and make an escape, you'll just get tossed back into that corner and get destroyed. MNG + Ankh Shield makes it so that you can dash past any troublesom situation with no bouncing or knockback to block you, it's amazing for getting out of tough areas.

There's an easy way to avoid that scenario. Just... don't let yourself get backed into a corner?

I'll admit I haven't used SoC very much, but it seems that the temporary immunity it provides while dashing is way more valuable than any utility in dashing through enemies and taking damage.
Celator 2015 年 8 月 25 日 下午 8:37 
引用自 blinkmoth
引用自 Over8001

There's an easy way to avoid that scenario. Just... don't let yourself get backed into a corner?

I'll admit I haven't used SoC very much, but it seems that the temporary immunity it provides while dashing is way more valuable than any utility in dashing through enemies and taking damage.

gotta agree, emphasis on the temporary immunity. If you are fighting from the ground, the SoC is a must have for the exact reasons Over8001 posted.

(blink agrees with Over8001 on a matter of dodging / preventing damage: this shall be kept in memory as a historic moment, people will sing songs about this.)

Lol. I should clarify while we're on the subject that I don't think everyone should go full damage all the time and leave themselves as glass cannons, depending only on their dodging ability to survive, but I do think that damage is much more valuable than defense late game. Mainly due to the nature of defense as a flat reduction, which makes it fall off in usefulness as enemies get more powerful, while most other stats including damage are multiplicative. Other defensive bonuses, like HP regen and % damage reduction, on the other hand, are way better than defense and still worth using. And it isn't as if defense isn't nice when you can get it along with other bonuses, which is why Ironskin potions and Celestial Shell/Stone are great, but it just isn't worth sacrificing DPS for.
Ir0n_Revverb 2015 年 8 月 25 日 下午 9:30 
For instance, when running away from Wall of Flesh on Expert mode and he gets too close and has just a little bit of hp left and you get caught by The Hungrey, you can't dash away, trying would only knock you further into WoF. Or if he's a decent distance away and you're all good with your hemres boots etc, but a hellbat etc hits you and you dash to get the speed boost so as not to get eaten by WoF and a Leech hops up from the lava and the dash knocks you back into WoF.

No, this isn't a completely random event, I've died seven times in a row to those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ leeches, they and SoC ruin me.
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