Venom Dart Trap vs Super Dart Trap

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Which is better? I would assume the Super since you can't get it until much later...but the gg wiki doesn't even list damage numbers for the Venom one, and I don't have the patience to test it. I'm not even sure how the immunity frames worth among various traps, if I should just stick with one specific trap for post-golem

[Flyin' High]

I'm not quite sure what a Venom Dart Trap is, although I'm assuming you mean a regular one you find in caves, but the super dart traps are incredibly potent purely damage wise, and if I'm not mistaken they also do inflict poison.

[Duchess Minty]

Originally posted by Ze Rock:

I'm not quite sure what a Venom Dart Trap is, although I'm assuming you mean a regular one you find in caves,

Venom Dart Traps are an upgraded version of the normal Dart Traps, they're crafting only and were apparently added in 1.4.4 which might explain the lack of info.

[Spookypizza]

Originally posted by Batabii • Splatoon 3:

Which is better? I would assume the Super since you can't get it until much later...but the gg wiki doesn't even list damage numbers for the Venom one, and I don't have the patience to test it. I'm not even sure how the immunity frames worth among various traps, if I should just stick with one specific trap for post-golem

super dart traps does raw damage but venom dart trap deals acid venom which does 30 dmg per second, i think its better since it can deal damage faster with the debuff

[twoxsp]

Super dart traps are definitely better.

[Seth Abercromby]

Originally posted by Spookypizza:

super dart traps does raw damage but venom dart trap deals acid venom which does 30 dmg per second, i think its better since it can deal damage faster with the debuff

I assume it'll come down to how many traps you intend to use. As single traps acid venom would be stronger since the debuff would deal lot of total damage, but if you use a lot of traps then the debuff will still only be applied once, in which case the raw damage of super would be preferable.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Seth Abercromby:

Originally posted by Spookypizza:

super dart traps does raw damage but venom dart trap deals acid venom which does 30 dmg per second, i think its better since it can deal damage faster with the debuff

I assume it'll come down to how many traps you intend to use. As single traps acid venom would be stronger since the debuff would deal lot of total damage, but if you use a lot of traps then the debuff will still only be applied once, in which case the raw damage of super would be preferable.

Right now I just have a small trench on each side of my main spawn with one super dart trap on each side but I also have one spiky ball trap and one spear trap as well as lava and one geyser on each side. I've only been using it for invasions, I'm making a separate arena for pumpkin moon and frost Moon plus I already have an arena for the old ones Army which so far has a Venom dart trap and one Boulder statue on each side

[Mr. Dandy]

Venom dart trap does more effect damage (venom instead of poison)
Super dart trap does more initial damage (the dart does more damage, not the effect)

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Mr. Dandy:

Venom dart trap does more effect damage (venom instead of poison)
Super dart trap does more initial damage (the dart does more damage, not the effect)

Which one is more useful against Invasion waves and event enemies like the Pumpkin Moon?

[Flyin' High]

Originally posted by Batabii • Splatoon 3:

Originally posted by Mr. Dandy:

Venom dart trap does more effect damage (venom instead of poison)
Super dart trap does more initial damage (the dart does more damage, not the effect)

Which one is more useful against Invasion waves and event enemies like the Pumpkin Moon?

Both pierce over 10 times, haven't bothered testing any higher than that.
Testing on a unicorn in master-mode super dart traps do around 120 damage, with 30~ of that being initial damage and an additional 90 from the poison affect.
Venom dart traps do around 160 with 15~ of that being initial damage and the rest being from the venom which does 15/sec.
Note that the venom last significantly shorter, than the poison effect.
The damage is inconsistent so those are just the average of the various tests I did.
Venom Dart traps seem superior unless your opponent is immune to venom, in that case super dart traps do more initial damage. Swapping them out is fairly easy.
Do keep in mind that since they pierce only one can hit an enemy once at a time, so it would be best to have them on separate intervals. Same thing goes for weapons, if your weapon shoots multiple rounds at once, it's best to not use piercing ammunition.
Source for this claim: https://terraria.fandom.com/wiki/Damage?so=search + experience.
I had to search up how to make a venom dart trap for this

Other notable trap damages:
Flame trap: 450 assuming all of it hits, including the flames debuff.
Spear trap: 40, can hit multiple times and has infinite piercing.
Spiky-ball trap: Very inconsistent, hard to measure but if you use it right, you can do a lot with it.

All traps can be rotated by using a hammer on them and will still function when actuated. This allows you to effectively layer traps and you can have dart traps facing upwards for instance, or spear traps going sideways.

[CeeSarSonic]

venom is more powerful

[Ing. Ithiridiel]

I assume venom does not stack, so putting 1 venom for the DoT and N super dart traps to do impact damage is probably the best.