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Gary Popinov Sep 20, 2015 @ 7:53pm
Mage is unarguably the best class.
Title says it all. I'll explain though.

I'll first start by listing out the mage's best weapons, and the melee class's "equivalent" counterparts" (I only chose melee as comparison because I could;d not find equal counterparts for ranger or summoner, as they were too underpowered in comparison)

Mage's Best weapons (for Moon lord and/or Celestial events)
Last prism
Nebula Blaze
Lunar Flare
Razorblade Typhoon (only because of PINPOINT homing abilities)
Nebula Arcanum

Melee Best weapon counterparts:
Terrarian
Star Wrath
Meowmere
Solar Eruption
Daybreak

(This list was made congruently, meaning Last prism = terrarian, Star wrath = Nebula Blaze, etc.)

Let's compare.
Last prism: I use it without mana flower, but a lot others don't. At full beam, it stays as an unstoppable hexa-beam (6-beam) laser of death which can exceed 30k+ dps on multiple targets. Video evidence states that it can kill 50 moon lords single handed on expert mode solo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV8Tvfc6wY4

Terrarian: Base damage ranges from 300-500 constant damage, but has limited range. Fires homing "yoyo flares" (i guess) which do thr same amount of damage as the yoyo, but have very limited range. Is not AS efficient as last prism, but can still easily solo Moon lord.

Nebula Blaze: More or less inaccurate homing abilities, but crits for upwards of 1000 damage, and is easily spammable.

Star wrath: Rains stars from the sky, but only can achieve a max of about 700 dps on a single target.

Lunar flare: rains lunar explosions from the sky, can crits for upwards of 750 damage, and can achieve upwards of 2k+ dps due to multiple hits per strike.

Meowmere: Sub par swinging speed, with cats that require much skill to aim while airborne (aka 90% of moon lord fight). Not very viable against Moon lord.

Razorblade Typhoon: Amazing homing abilities, and can be VERY easily spammed at incredible rates. Can very easily solo moon lord.

Solar Eruption: extendable sword with a high melee range. Most liekly the most viable Moon Lord sword/flail/thing here.

I think I've made my point.

If you haven't picked it up already. Mage is unarguably the best class because it's viability against end-game events in comparison to it's melee counterparts and because of the dps is can achieve with the same effort of the melee counterparts. But hey, I'm just some random wizard.

tell me what you guys think below. :D
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Unicarn (Banned) Sep 20, 2015 @ 10:24pm 
Originally posted by Over8001:
Originally posted by Unicarn:
Eh, I still think Mage deals a large amount of damage. You have to consider that you're dealing damage to a group of enemies.

Other classes can deal piercing damage, too. Mage does strip ahead of summoner when dealing with hordes since summoners can't deal their full potential DPS to every target (they can only attack with non-piercing weapons at the same time as their Dragon), but ranger still beats mage.
I mean by burst-firing Last Prism. It's more mana efficient and can hit large groups of enemies at once. Very useful in events.
Celator Sep 20, 2015 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by Unicarn:
Originally posted by Over8001:

Other classes can deal piercing damage, too. Mage does strip ahead of summoner when dealing with hordes since summoners can't deal their full potential DPS to every target (they can only attack with non-piercing weapons at the same time as their Dragon), but ranger still beats mage.
I mean by burst-firing Last Prism. It's more mana efficient and can hit large groups of enemies at once. Very useful in events.

Well, yeah, but then your damage is spread out and arguably the Celebration does more AoE damage at that point. The Last Prism fires 6 beams and does around 10k DPS per target when focused (and with full damage boosters), so that means each beam does around 1500 DPS to each enemy. Meanwhile the Celebration does 4k DPS per enemy, 8k if you hit them with the rockets directly.
Hladilnik Sep 21, 2015 @ 1:34am 
ill just stick to warrior,vampire knifes ftw.
Computer_Fixer Sep 21, 2015 @ 4:47am 
Excuse me? 200 Hours only? I could have been the most maxed out char before the moon lord While all Melee update comes out and I need to put another 100 hours in and I still haven't killed the moon lord on Expert, the Meowmere, Starfury or Terra Blade? If you got those you NEVER need to care about mana you can hold those as long as you want, No cooldown No waiting time No nothing. The Last Prisim? Great DPS but try Using that weapon for a Minute if you can do that try two if you cant do that then looks like you are going to need to stand still (or moving) while being very vunerable because you have no wait to fight no mana! Oh sorry you may have minons but they aint gonna kill the Moon Lord before he gets to you. Oh btw try checking my hours
Last edited by Computer_Fixer; Sep 21, 2015 @ 4:49am
Celator Sep 21, 2015 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Computer_Fixer:
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The Last Prism even with a 50% damage reduction from mana sickness has more DPS than any melee weapon. The best melee can do is around 4k with the Terrarian, while Last Prism can do 10k.
Gary Popinov Sep 21, 2015 @ 9:10am 
So guys, just gonna hop in one more time. What do you guys think? Melee, ranger, summoner (with summon damage only) or mage?

Edit: Also, please be sure to put in your post if anything anyone said here swayed your opnion. I know that the two people whgo said summoner can be pretty broken with sdmg made me want to try it for myself, and I most likely will.
Last edited by Gary Popinov; Sep 21, 2015 @ 9:12am
Celator Sep 21, 2015 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by VSquad Blood:
So guys, just gonna hop in one more time. What do you guys think? Melee, ranger, summoner (with summon damage only) or mage?

Edit: Also, please be sure to put in your post if anything anyone said here swayed your opnion. I know that the two people whgo said summoner can be pretty broken with sdmg made me want to try it for myself, and I most likely will.

To be honest, I'd say that overall, mage actually is the best class, but not because it has the highest DPS - because it doesn't - but rather because it has the best balance of damage and survivability, at least at endgame. Still, the other classes aren't very far behind, and each of them still has certain situations where it excels.

Summoner remains my favorite class, though, because I just find it more fun than the others, even though they're all fun in different ways. It's also the best for general exploring, farming, building, basically everything but boss battles, so if you're judging "best" by which class is the most useful in the most situations, summoner is the best for 99% of the game.

And like I've said before, you can't consider summoner as a class without considering its ability to use other weapons alongside its minions, because that's how the class is designed. But you've heard all that already.
Newb Sep 21, 2015 @ 2:04pm 
Actually, if you do a measurement, you can find that mage faaaaar outclasses every other class in terms of damage as long as you don't mind using a lot of potions, which are easy to get once you rescue the Wizard and use that Last Prism to farm up a few hundred platinum on Pumpkin Moons. Considering that ranger also consumes an equivalent in the form of ammunition (well, if you don't take into consideration special ammunition, which is much more difficult to obtain), the mage has a massive advantage in mobility, damage, and survivability compared to rangers. Summoners don't really hold up well to comparisons as of yet, because as a class it's still in its infancy. Melee doesn't use any ammunition or potions at all and has amazing survivability and decent damage, albeit lower damage than mage or ranger.
Celator Sep 21, 2015 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Dracoro:
Actually, if you do a measurement, you can find that mage faaaaar outclasses every other class in terms of damage as long as you don't mind using a lot of potions, which are easy to get once you rescue the Wizard and use that Last Prism to farm up a few hundred platinum on Pumpkin Moons. Considering that ranger also consumes an equivalent in the form of ammunition (well, if you don't take into consideration special ammunition, which is much more difficult to obtain), the mage has a massive advantage in mobility, damage, and survivability compared to rangers.

If you've played the game since 1.2.3, you'll know that mana potions lower your magic damage for 5-10 seconds when used. With this in mind, the actual DPS output of mages is in practice a little lower than rangers, since ranged ammo doesn't give a similar damage debuff.

Originally posted by Dracoro:
Summoners don't really hold up well to comparisons as of yet, because as a class it's still in its infancy.

That's an opinion, and one I disagree with. As someone who's played all four classes pretty extensively, I've found summoner to be more than comparable to the other classes. Of course, if you're talking in terms of the number and variety of weapons available to them, then I agree, but an endgame summoner can certainly hold his own with an endgame warrior, ranger, or mage.
Danish Sep 21, 2015 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by VSquad Blood:
I dunno, sit back and relax? XD
I'll be honest, I didn't read the behemoth walls of text after this, so if someone said this, my bad.
Who in the hell thinks letting summoner compare to other classes while sitting around "relaxing" is a good idea while they still have the option to use weapons too.
If you want the summoner to compare to other classes while being able to cook dinner for themselves and letting other people enjoy the game, it'd be boring and overpowered.
Computer_Fixer Sep 21, 2015 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Over8001:
Originally posted by Computer_Fixer:
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The Last Prism even with a 50% damage reduction from mana sickness has more DPS than any melee weapon. The best melee can do is around 4k with the Terrarian, while Last Prism can do 10k.
Best Meele is 4K.
How long can you hold meele?
Forever.

Best Mage is 10K.
How long can you hold the Last Prisim?
I don't know Exactly but hey you cant use it continuously for a long time at all.
Celator Sep 21, 2015 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by Computer_Fixer:
Originally posted by Over8001:

The Last Prism even with a 50% damage reduction from mana sickness has more DPS than any melee weapon. The best melee can do is around 4k with the Terrarian, while Last Prism can do 10k.
Best Meele is 4K.
How long can you hold meele?
Forever.

Best Mage is 10K.
How long can you hold the Last Prisim?
I don't know Exactly but hey you cant use it continuously for a long time at all.

Technically a single Last Prism burst lasts for up to a minute, but since you're rarely going to fire any weapon continuously for that long, that might as well be forever. In any case there's nothing to stop you from starting up the beam again the instant it stops, and a four second charge up compared to a minute of continuous fire is a negligible DPS drop.

If you're talking about mana usage, then you can easily keep firing the Last Prism for its full duration as long as you have mana potions and a Mana Flower. Mana potions do give a damage debuff when used, but like I said even with mana sickness the Last Prism still out-DPSs the Terrarian. The highest debuff you can get from mana sickness is -50% damage, and half of 10k is 5k which is still more than 4k.

Melee simply cannot equal mage's DPS. This is a fact.
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