terraria 2? any news?

[hovershift]

anyone knows anything about it?

[prpl_mage]

Your guess is as good as mine. There still haven't been any official announcment that it is being developed. Just some hints here and there on social media about them working on something new. Which can mean a lot of things.

[Shoobflops]

There won't be a terraria 2. They've handed the game over to modders i.e actual devs.

[Joshua Kurayami]

They still haven't released the dead cells update that was brought up two years ago, let alone actually move on from the first Terraria game.

[th]

Originally posted by FlatMoof:

There won't be a terraria 2. They've handed the game over to modders i.e actual devs.

Lol. You've just called Terraria triple A game. You do know it's actually indy, do you? And therefore its devs are actually kind of modders of their own game FROM THE VERY START.

It actually was hilarious. This game is so big of a thing that people have started actually to consider it as a corporate product. Well, I be damned, ain't it a true recognition. And from a person who actually doesn't like it that much. It tells a lot.

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

They still haven't released the dead cells update that was brought up two years ago, let alone actually move on from the first Terraria game.

Why would they move on? It's not some greedy corporation which always needs to rotate the money wheel, i.e. to release the same games over and over again just with slightly different names.

Terraria's devs are like Richard Garriott or like Hayao Miyazaki. They don't give much f about money. They just love their creations.

[azedoukjk]

LOL

[Shoobflops]

Originally posted by th:

Originally posted by FlatMoof:

There won't be a terraria 2. They've handed the game over to modders i.e actual devs.

Lol. You've just called Terraria triple A game. You do know it's actually indy, do you? And therefore its devs are actually kind of modders of their own game FROM THE VERY START.

It actually was hilarious. This game is so big of a thing that people have started actually to consider it as a corporate product. Well, I be damned, ain't it a true recognition. And from a person who actually doesn't like it that much. It tells a lot.

I FIND IT HILARIOUS

Just wanting to be right on the internet makes everything you say hollow. You're not getting a terraria 2. You're not getting a half life 3. You're going to enjoy playing new habbo.

[Flare |UKCS|]

I would be curious how Red and team would make a Terraria 2, the same old wont work but too much change would make for a mess.

[th]

Originally posted by FlatMoof:

You're not getting a terraria 2.

But I don't want Terraria 2. I like Terraria and still have a lot in it to do. That's the thing with indy games. Their devs love their games. So they make it so that other can love them too. There is just no mandatory purpose to move on. I mean you can do it, yes. But not because you were forced to do it. That is a gamechanger.

Originally posted by FlatMoof:

You're not getting a half life 3.

Yea, but that's exactly for the opposite reason, in other words bad reason. It's coz we have some lazy corporation who got fat and greasy having all our money for the work they never did. What can I say? Valve is no more. They just got corrupted by huge profit from Steam so now they have no reason to actually make games. It's sad. And that is exactly the story about why corporate AAA games are so bad these days.

Originally posted by FlatMoof:

You're going to enjoy playing new habbo.

I don't even know what it is.

[Radiowavehero]

It's been a decade , let it go , a watched pot never boils as the saying goes.

Just forget about it and maybe in 5 years or something they might release something new (probably not terraria) and it will be a nice surprise , but if you waited that entire time , wondering about it constantly it would be torture and you would probably hate whatever they released for making you wait so long and not feeling like it was worth the wait.

The truth is this game was a pet project of Reds that blew up , it was never meant to keep going this long , redigit has tried to move on multiple times (for literally a DECADE ) from this game but nothing else has worked out , now it just seems like they are content to coast along on the success of terraria 1.

Other people have stepped in to keep the ball rolling but that's all it is , they are doing great work but it's small pet projects like roller skates and pet slimes not a new game , Honestly I don't expect a terraria 2 to ever be made because there just isn't enough motivation to do it.

Realistically they probably can't afford to make a new game at this point , they tried and failed with terraria otherworld a game they were hiring someone else to make and the people they hired had basically done NOTHING for two years , at this point instead of taking over and making the game themselves Re-logic passed the game to a SECOND company to make which also failed (once again showing they don't have the interest to do it themselves) then the game was cancelled and the ideas from it were instead ported to terraria 1 with the updates we have been getting the past few years.

In short they don't want to make another game , they have tried everything they could to avoid making another game , take a hint.

[festeringjester]

there WAS otherworld, but they abandoned it or something sadly

[Joshua Kurayami]

Originally posted by th:

Why would they move on? It's not some greedy corporation which always needs to rotate the money wheel, i.e. to release the same games over and over again just with slightly different names.

Terraria's devs are like Richard Garriott or like Hayao Miyazaki. They don't give much f about money. They just love their creations.

Do you read the news section of Terraria? There's at least a few years worth of stuff where they cover it with news for merch, and the state of the game which is the news that is supposed to be about the game that happens every month also happens to have a section dedicated to merch. Just because the game is free of paid DLCs doesn't mean they haven't been milking it in other ways like novels, board game, many figurines made by different companies, including collectible figurines with golden variants, stuff you wear, flavored coffee, resin statue, etc.

Also, funny you've mentioned about releasing the same games over again when it's been released in 8 consoles, including phones and other platforms. Did you know Terraria is also different in China?

As for why they should move on to a new Terraria:

1) Unless they ever update the engine Terraria's been used on then the potential is limited.
3) They've been suggested a bunch of stuff that they said would fit in as a "Terraria 2" idea, so why not make that a reality?
3) It gives the Devs something to do instead of constantly trying to polish the game with QoL updates that barely adds any meat to the game.
4) They can actually gain more money this way because people are more willing to buy a brand new Terraria game instead of buying merch that no one has asked for. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if there's more than a hundred merch at this point.

[th]

Originally posted by Radiowavehero:

now it just seems like they are content to coast along on the success of terraria 1.

Personally I believe this is a good thing. I can't imagine myself to move on from a project like Terraria. I mean it's one of the best game projects ever. Period. And not just among the indy games, no, it's the best among ALL the games. Why would I move on having such a masterpiece to continue polishing and updating?

People often (well, most of us) consider things through a prism of money. Well, I do not. I know for sure that the true art (whatever would it be - painting, cinema, music or computer games) is not about money. The act of creation itself is what it is about. And you can't make a game like Terraria if those are just empty words for you. So it's obvious for me that it is also important for Redigit too.

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Just because the game is free of paid DLCs doesn't mean they haven't been milking it in other ways like novels, board game, many figurines made by different companies, including collectible figurines with golden variants, stuff you wear, flavored coffee, resin statue, etc.

True, but I consider this form of money milking as pretty fair one coz it doesn't affect players and the game itself. Obvious, right?

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Also, funny you've mentioned about releasing the same games over again when it's been released in 8 consoles, including phones and other platforms.

I've said "with a slightly different names". It's a very important clarification. It means they don't pretend to sell us a new game just with a different name. They sell us the only game. Where is there an abuse? I don't see one.

More of it, some of those different releases actually have a crossplay already. PC version (six different versions - Steam, GoG * Mac, Linux and Windows) and mobile version (two different versions - Android and iOS) can play together all right on a PC dedicated servers. And they promised to add a crossplay feature to consoles too.

For me it completely justifies the problem you've mentioned.

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

4) They can actually gain more money this way because people are more willing to buy a brand new Terraria game instead of buying merch that no one has asked for.

Like I've said this particular reason I don't respect. The art is not about money.

[Joshua Kurayami]

Originally posted by th:

True, but I consider this form of money milking as pretty fair one coz it doesn't affect players and the game itself. Obvious, right?

Actually it does affect both. In the game's case, while it obviously doesn't affect stuff like gameplay and such, there is that possibility of affecting how much progress it does, since they can pretty much work on the game whenever they want to without a deadline and throw in any random excuse to delay it, while also having some of the staff deal with the merch side of things. And before you mention how other companies work on the merch and not the Redigit team themselves, there's obviously going to be times where at least a few redigit staff gets pulled to the side just to keep track of merch progress, quality, etc.

As for players, it is all unnecessary spam to drain people's sanity waiting for the update to be released, only for them to release a state of the game with barely anything in it and another "We've made progress" message that adds nothing. It affects people's hype and hope for something that was announced in October or November of 2022 including the part that it was going to be released in 2023, got delayed to 2024 and there's less than 4 months away until the year ends.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the obvious which is bringing annoyance with merch news. This issue wouldn't have been that big of a deal if they kept the merch news roughly once a month, but unfortunately it doesn't. There are times where it can get so bad like last November where, besides the game state, which that itself has merch news, in that same month there was also news about a plush, one about the shopping guide and another of a novel, and all of those have been released with 3 days between each news post and a week between that and the game state news. And no, that wasn't even the only merch news released that year.

Originally posted by th:

I've said "with a slightly different names". It's a very important clarification. It means they don't pretend to sell us a new game just with a different name. They sell us the only game. Where is there an abuse? I don't see one.

More of it, some of those different releases actually have a crossplay already. PC version (six different versions - Steam, GoG * Mac, Linux and Windows) and mobile version (two different versions - Android and iOS) can play together all right on a PC dedicated servers. And they promised to add a crossplay feature to consoles too.

For me it completely justifies the problem you've mentioned.

I wasn't implying any abuse or problem, just more of a random fact that I thought I'd mention. I got nothing against multiple platforms and such.

Originally posted by th:

Like I've said this particular reason I don't respect. The art is not about money.

Yeeeaaah that sentence kinda conflicts with the whole merch issue that I mentioned. I could definitely see the way some people do where the game is art, and I've been that kind of person when I had Terraria for over a decade, but now it's just.. to me it feels like they've tainted the IP with the merch issue, and most of updates they've released in the past few years or so felt like a miss, especially when they started focusing on QoL stuff and barely anything that adds meat to the game like plenty of monsters, bosses, events and such. If anything they're just changing things around until they forget about it or end up changing it again in a later update.

[Shoobflops]

I wonder if Terraria 2 will be the one where the devs actually learn how balance works instead of shifting things once a year. Making the old meta absolute garbage is the opposite of balance.

Melee has once again been on top of the world while it's pointless to use anything else and it's all to make the zenith meme work. No magic, ranged, or summoner classes have anything close in comparison.

in b4 melee mains desperately leap to defend their weird blender thing.

[th]

Originally posted by Joshua Kurayami:

Actually it does affect both. In the game's case, while it obviously doesn't affect stuff like gameplay and such, there is that possibility of affecting how much progress it does, since they can pretty much work on the game whenever they want to without a deadline and throw in any random excuse to delay it, while also having some of the staff deal with the merch side of things. And before you mention how other companies work on the merch and not the Redigit team themselves, there's obviously going to be times where at least a few redigit staff gets pulled to the side just to keep track of merch progress, quality, etc.

As for players, it is all unnecessary spam to drain people's sanity waiting for the update to be released, only for them to release a state of the game with barely anything in it and another "We've made progress" message that adds nothing. It affects people's hype and hope for something that was announced in October or November of 2022 including the part that it was going to be released in 2023, got delayed to 2024 and there's less than 4 months away until the year ends.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the obvious which is bringing annoyance with merch news. This issue wouldn't have been that big of a deal if they kept the merch news roughly once a month, but unfortunately it doesn't. There are times where it can get so bad like last November where, besides the game state, which that itself has merch news, in that same month there was also news about a plush, one about the shopping guide and another of a novel, and all of those have been released with 3 days between each news post and a week between that and the game state news. And no, that wasn't even the only merch news released that year.

As for me those arguments are pretty lousy. I am not convinced. You have too much expectations. Just don't have them. You also kind of want to enslave the devs so to speak to make them work on new updates or Terraria 2. Well, it is an unfair position. We can't enslave them that way. It is too much.