damage > defensive ?

[tiemo94]

hey guys,
is defensive worthless ?
i'm using:
- spectre armor
- razorblade typhoon
- razorpine
- fishron wings (4% damage)
- celestial stone (4% damage)
- sorcerer emblem (4% damage)
- avenger emblem (4% damage)
- destroyer emblem (4% damage)

i can do frostmoon/pumpkinmoon easily without dying. i can do all bosses and they die in under 10 seconds. so could someone explain me why people get defensive on their accessoires ?

[ShadeDaystar]

Personal preference and playstyle. Same reason there's modifiers for mana, crit chance, ammo use, knockback, etc.

[JellyPuff]

Originally posted by Tiemo94:

so could someone explain me why people get defensive on their accessoires ?

because hood is still OP.
it basically makes you immortal with an "insanely fast" magic weapon, while still dealing a good amount of damage.

while trying out magic weapons with the spectre/hood armor, during a frostmoon, i actually had only 2 accessories with the "warding" (+4def) prefix and the rest were +4% damage and i still never dropped below 50% health.

[tiemo94]

Originally posted by Jellypuff:

Originally posted by Tiemo94:

so could someone explain me why people get defensive on their accessoires ?

because hood is still OP.
it basically makes you immortal with an "insanely fast" magic weapon, while still dealing a good amount of damage.

while trying out magic weapons with the spectre/hood armor, during a frostmoon, i actually had only 2 accessories with the "warding" (+4def) prefix and the rest were +4% damage and i still never dropped below 50% health.

i'm not using the hood, i'm using the mask for more damage :)
never tried the hood. maybe i should just for fun ^^

[tiemo94]

Originally posted by ShadeDaystar:

Personal preference and playstyle. Same reason there's modifiers for mana, crit chance, ammo use, knockback, etc.

makes sense ^^ but most people use damage or defensive. maybe they should improve those other stats for more variety.

[Nostril]

defense/2 = actual damage reduction. I'll take more damage over defense any day.
example:

warding shackle = +2 damage reduction

menacing shackle = +4 actual damage

so menacing>warding.

[Nostril]

not counting the defense from the shackle.

[Dr. McWeazel]

The logic behind choosing Defense over Offense is that, with higher defense, I'm gonna take a lot longer to die. Since I don't have Vampire Knives and I use Melee, this is really the best way I have to keep myself from dying against the likes of the Ice Queen and mobs of Elf Archers.

This same logic doesn't seem to apply for the Spectre Armor w/ Hood, however, but when using the Spectre Armor w/ Mask, it works just about as well.

From what I can tell, this means that it boils down to whether or not I have lifesteal. If I do, Offense is the way to go, but since I don't most of the time, Defense is my only good option.

[NotApplicable]

Sure it works for your stuff, with your play-style, but other people find/prefer defence, because either they want to take less damage to save dodging quite as much, or because they just feel safer or more confident in their build with a decent supply of defence. Glad it works for you.

I couldn't possibly disagree with you more, Conga - defence is viable throughout the game; that's why it's there. It might be more viable to go all-out attack, in hardmode, with the right gear, but I'm still sticking by the opinion that defence most definitely is not just good in pre-hardmode. Depends on the player, anyway. Maybe he hasn't got an Ankh Shield yet, or doesn't want one, or doesn't care? Jesus.

Originally posted by ShadeDaystar:

Personal preference and playstyle. Same reason there's modifiers for mana, crit chance, ammo use, knockback, etc.

+1

Had I seen that first, I'd have not bothered saying the rest. xD

[tiemo94]

Originally posted by Mr. Conga:

Originally posted by Tiemo94:

hey guys,
is defensive worthless ?
i'm using:
- spectre armor
- razorblade typhoon
- razorpine
- fishron wings (4% damage)
- celestial stone (4% damage)
- sorcerer emblem (4% damage)
- avenger emblem (4% damage)
- destroyer emblem (4% damage)

i can do frostmoon/pumpkinmoon easily without dying. i can do all bosses and they die in under 10 seconds. so could someone explain me why people get defensive on their accessoires ?

Defense is only good pre-hardmode, Some people just want to do it so they can say "Hey guys! I have more defense than u!" They end up dying because of a lack of dps.

How defense works: Half of your defense is damage reduced, terraria rounds the numbers up.

Also why the ♥♥♥♥ don't you have ankh shield?

i have the ankh shield, but im not using it. why should i ? im not dying so i prefer more damage :)

[tiemo94]

Originally posted by Unbekannter:

Sure it works for your stuff, with your play-style, but other people find/prefer defence, because either they want to take less damage to save dodging quite as much, or because they just feel safer or more confident in their build with a decent supply of defence. Glad it works for you.

I couldn't possibly disagree with you more, Conga - defence is viable throughout the game; that's why it's there. It might be more viable to go all-out attack, in hardmode, with the right gear, but I'm still sticking by the opinion that defence most definitely is not just good in pre-hardmode. Depends on the player, anyway. Maybe he hasn't got an Ankh Shield yet, or doesn't want one, or doesn't care? Jesus.

Originally posted by ShadeDaystar:

Personal preference and playstyle. Same reason there's modifiers for mana, crit chance, ammo use, knockback, etc.

+1

Had I seen that first, I'd have not bothered saying the rest. xD

good point :)
and i also think defensive is more viable for melee instead of range characters. it's easier for us range characters to dodge something. correct me if im wrong ^^

Edit: i forgot that there is hardcore. in hardcore it would be defensive > damage in my opinion. ^^

[Unicarn]

I go all-out offense with mage and ranger but then I go defensive with melee.

[lerfi]

Originally posted by ShadeDaystar:

Personal preference and playstyle. Same reason there's modifiers for mana, crit chance, ammo use, knockback, etc.

There's no ammo usage acessorie reforge.
He's talking about acessories, not weapon speciffic