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Piffy

Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:11pm

Best arrows to use when

Whats the best arrows to use with phantasm bow if im trying to kill moonlord (1st attempt failed)
Also what the best arrows to use in general with phantasm

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GordoBoy

Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:14pm

Use Vortex Beater, bows are so last century.

IblisFlare has Terraria

Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:17pm

Originally posted by Dam:
Whats the best arrows to use with phantasm bow if im trying to kill moonlord (1st attempt failed)
Also what the best arrows to use in general with phantasm

Personally, I would try Venom Arrows. They have the highest base damage of any arrow in teh game. Normally, I use Ichor arrows with the Phantasm, but since the Moon Lord is immune to Ichor, and Venom arrows have higher base damage, I use those against him.

Yamaraja666 has Terraria

Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:20pm

Bows are pretty awful end game. Go with the guns/launchers. Preferably just switch to summoning or magic. Summoning if you want to be super lazy... Summoning you can push 5k dps at all times on bosses and all you have to do is dodge or you can grab that same gun and push the dps to around 8k instead for very little effort.

GDN Dan

Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:21pm

who even uses bows against the moon lord?

IblisFlare has Terraria

Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:24pm

Originally posted by Yamaraja666:
Bows are pretty awful end game. Go with the guns/launchers. Preferably just switch to summoning or magic. Summoning if you want to be super lazy... Summoning you can push 5k dps at all times on bosses and all you have to do is dodge or you can grab that same gun and push the dps to around 8k instead for very little effort.

The Phantasm is actually pretty amazing. Pushing out 6k DPS in my testing just now. The Vortext Beater only pushed 3.2k DPS.

EDIT - The testing above was done with Luminite arrows and bullets. With regular wooden arrows and Musket balls, the Phantasm scored 2.8 DPS, whereas the Vortex Beater got 2.3DPS

EDIT 2 - The testing was done on a Training Dummy, so the Phantasms homing arrow property is excluded here.

EDIT 3 - Both the Phantasm, and the Vortex Beater used in my testing have the Unreal Prefix.

Last edited by IblisFlare; Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:34pm

Yamaraja666 has Terraria

Apr 13, 2016 @ 7:42pm

Testing is relatively useless... You can push 6-7 million dps with dummies and the right set up. The only dps that matters is on actual bosses. Which magic/summoning does the best at. Ranged requires you to be stealthed to take full advantage which you cannot do on a moving mount/high movement such as a boss fight.

Kalahatze

Apr 20, 2019 @ 1:38am

Originally posted by Yamaraja666:
Testing is relatively useless... You can push 6-7 million dps with dummies and the right set up. The only dps that matters is on actual bosses. Which magic/summoning does the best at. Ranged requires you to be stealthed to take full advantage which you cannot do on a moving mount/high movement such as a boss fight.

I know I am a week late here but this kind of stuff really irritates me. Please take your mage fanboy and leave. I have tested this extensively (and did again just now to confirm) and phantasm is significantly better than ANY of mages weapons, this is including post moon lord weapons. Phantasm out preforms last prism by a whopping 30%. This was tested on bosses (not target dummies, thank you very much) and it was single-target only testing. There was no multi target involved. This was with NO STEALTH. This is important. It out-preformed by 30% WITHOUT being stealthed. This was using full accessories and maximum damage on both classes (I did extensive testing and math to figure out the most optimum dps setup for both classes). I was careful not to let any shots miss or any dps go to waste.

It irritates me so much when people look at mage's epic visuals and assume it has more dps without even testing this stuff. There are 2 caviots:
1. Last prism out preforms by roughly 50% extra damage in the first few seconds (before you drink a mana potion) but that is usually mostly wind up which is less dps anyway. If you have infinate mana (which is impossible in non cheaty gameplay) this is the better weapon.
2. This was without mage getting the damage orbs from its setbonus. This means that after 2 damage orbs collected the dps is equal and after 3 mage is better. Keep in mind in multiplay this does not stack well with multiple mages, so the best dps setup is 1 mage and the rest ranged.

Just so I am not completely useless to the original discussion, the best pre moon lord arrows are Holy Arrows for maximum dps, but the stars are sometimes hard to hit with especially on the moon lord. In that case Venom arrows would be best, as the high damage stacks extremely well with fast hitting weapons such as the phantasm. Post moon lord luminite arrows are ofc the best.

(PS I do not know why you mentioned summoner here, summoner has the lowest dps in the game, even lower than a melee setup does, and even when using extra weapons to attack instead of just minions)

Kuraz Mad

Apr 20, 2019 @ 1:44am

dude you're not a week late xD
YOU'RE TWO YEARS

Kalahatze

Apr 20, 2019 @ 1:52am

Originally posted by BSBKuraz Mad:
dude you're not a week late xD
YOU'RE TWO YEARS

Ah rip. This is the first result on google for what I was googling for. I didn't read the date properly. Even so this is still a big issue... everybody assumes mage is so good when it's not.

Sorry for the massive necropost then xD

Last edited by Kalahatze; Apr 20, 2019 @ 1:54am

tA Naivist has Terraria

Apr 20, 2019 @ 2:08am

Originally posted by Kalahatze:
Originally posted by BSBKuraz Mad:
dude you're not a week late xD
YOU'RE TWO YEARS

Ah rip. This is the first result on google for what I was googling for. I didn't read the date properly. Even so this is still a big issue... everybody assumes mage is so good when it's not.

Sorry for the massive necropost then xD

i dont see how an opinion is a big issue but whatever
it certainly isnt worth a 2 year necropost, i can tell you that much

Last edited by tA Naivist; Apr 20, 2019 @ 2:08am

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Kalahatze

Apr 20, 2019 @ 2:24am

Originally posted by Gamerboyd:
Originally posted by Kalahatze:

Ah rip. This is the first result on google for what I was googling for. I didn't read the date properly. Even so this is still a big issue... everybody assumes mage is so good when it's not.

Sorry for the massive necropost then xD

i dont see how an opinion is a big issue but whatever
it certainly isnt worth a 2 year necropost, i can tell you that much

Look, generally google gives relevant results. That's the point of the site. I assumed the result I was getting on google was relevant. Not worth a 2 year necropost, no, but a 1 week one it is. I said sorry. Let's drop it okay? Continuing this discussion just causes more necroposts.

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GordoBoy

Apr 20, 2019 @ 5:54pm

Jesus Christ that necro'ed so hard it got spooky.

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Natuday

Aug 3, 2019 @ 6:50am

Originally posted by Gamerboyd:
Originally posted by Kalahatze:

Ah rip. This is the first result on google for what I was googling for. I didn't read the date properly. Even so this is still a big issue... everybody assumes mage is so good when it's not.

Sorry for the massive necropost then xD

i dont see how an opinion is a big issue but whatever
it certainly isnt worth a 2 year necropost, i can tell you that much

oh boo hoo a 'necro post'
that post helped me, and i appreciate it. stop getting butthurt just because he's not part of your circle jerking echo chamber

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