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Substance_545 May 17, 2020 @ 12:16am
why does everyone care about the new trans furry npc
like seriously why, its not that big of a deal, you don't need to fight over it.
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Originally posted by Zemecon:
Apparently even saying you *are*transgendered or intersex is being political and/or ideological now? No attempt by Relogic was ever made to tell people to accept transgendered and intersex people (even though that would be a good thing). All they did was say a certain NPC happened to be transgendered. Being against *that* would be kinda oppressive because it means no transgendered or intersex person can say "Hello! I exist!"

I mean, think about it: Relogic can choose to represent only a few certain demographics or they can represent as many different types of people as they can. Obviously they want to be as diverse as they can. If you are going to say "This person can't be represented!" then you should also ask Relogic to remove any hetero CIS-gendered references as well, because that has existed in Terraria for a while now, and make every single character unisex and asexual. Otherwise, you are the one shoving your own ideology down other peoples' throats.

No game on Steam should be discouraged from diversifying the types of people they have the capacity to represent and no forum on Steam should discourage or stigmatize anyone for saying "I exist! This is who I am!" Because we are not all the same and there is no "normal" or "proper" way to be a person.

For reference, any transphobic threads we have in this forum are against Steam's TOS so it is recommended that you report them.

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As for the whole Furry thing, how do you know it isn't just a person wearing an animal costume? That isn't what a Furry is. Furries are anthropomorphic animals, not people in animal costumes. People with animal features aren't Furries, either. The NPC could be a cat-girl (if you don't know what that is, look it up).

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Originally posted by V.F. Runeivil:
The funny thing about the situation is that the fiasco was started by some bloke wanting to stir up a storm for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles. The claim she's trans is completely unfounded with no pics to act as evidence.

Both sides that care about this have been played like a finely tuned fiddle for an anonymous blokes entertainment.

^^^ This is also true. Unless..didn't someone say a Re-logic developer confirmed the NPC was trans? Or is this false?
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Zemecon May 17, 2020 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by OmniFurious:
Originally posted by Endymion:

A backstory doesn't need to be in the game to be a backstory. Relogic created the character so if they have any extra info on it then that is also technically part of the backstory. If Relogic did put transgenderism into that NPC's dialogue, I do believe some people would be making an even bigger deal out of it even though that still wouldn't be wrong.
It's not backstory if you need to look outside of the game for information that never once presented itself and doesn't add anything to the game.

So you want the Zoologist NPC's gender identity brought into the game as dialogue, now? Assuming it is true that NPC even was a transgendered Furry, you can't even respect Relogic's decision to keep that out of the dialogue. So instead if they add it in as an unofficial backstory on Discord to please all the transphobic Furry-hating players, it is a gimmick now.

J.K.Rowling decided that Dumbledore was gay, but that technically can't be true even though he was her character. Or it is a gimmick. People try too hard to believe that what they can't tolerate isn't real, instead of just accepting it, even though the latter would be less tiring to have to keep doing over and over again..
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Malvolion May 17, 2020 @ 3:18am 
just your typical basement dwellers being all fragile
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Entropy May 17, 2020 @ 3:21am 
If you cant accept realities, you are just weak and fragile. Your neighboor, your cousin or even your son could be any of the stuff you hate.. You either adapt or try to change it (but lose many in the process).
Last edited by Entropy; May 17, 2020 @ 3:21am
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Rumi May 17, 2020 @ 3:26am 
Originally posted by Drunk Reaper:
If you cant accept realities, you are just weak and fragile. Your neighboor, your cousin or even your son could be any of the stuff you hate.. You either adapt or try to change it (but lose many in the process).

sounds equally weak and fragile to give up on your humanity to become a dog
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OmniFurious May 17, 2020 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by Endymion:

So you want the Zoologist NPC's gender identity brought into the game as dialogue, now? Assuming it is true that NPC even was a transgendered Furry, you can't even respect Relogic's decision to keep that out of the dialogue. So instead if they add it in as an unofficial backstory on Discord to please all the transphobic Furry-hating players, it is a gimmick now.

J.K.Rowling decided that Dumbledore was gay, but that technically can't be true even though he was her character. Or it is a gimmick. People try too hard to believe that what they can't tolerate isn't real, instead of just accepting it, even though the latter would be less tiring to have to keep doing over and over again..
It'd be better if it was shown through the game than in some discord. What I don't respect is the over the top furthread roleplay style chat and not something thought out. So you would rather the community be split because the devs told the tran group one thing and the normal people something else? We'd be exactly where we are now.

J.K.Rowling wrote a story years ago, now she's trying to retcon it with information that doesn't matter, and in some cases doesn't make sense, just to appeal to other groups and score brownie points.
It's a gimmick when it's done this way. My arguement has never been whether it belongs in the game, it's that it wasn't done right, and if they aren't going to make it have an affect on the character in game why bother pushing it on the players.
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Boboscus May 17, 2020 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by ghst:
Ig most people here are transphobic and hate furries.

Most "people" here are 5 y/o kids...
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Entropy May 17, 2020 @ 3:30am 
Originally posted by Rumi:
Originally posted by Drunk Reaper:
If you cant accept realities, you are just weak and fragile. Your neighboor, your cousin or even your son could be any of the stuff you hate.. You either adapt or try to change it (but lose many in the process).

sounds equally weak and fragile to give up on your humanity to become a dog
Your humanity definition does not contribute anything to humanity thus you are the one that should be discarded. You do not have any power to change realities so you are weak. Try to change realities then? Ok go change a transgender person. If you can not, you have to accept it. Your mission and beliefs are doomed to fail anyway.
Last edited by Entropy; May 17, 2020 @ 3:30am
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Bacon May 17, 2020 @ 3:30am 
furry ♥♥♥♥
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Rumi May 17, 2020 @ 3:31am 
Originally posted by Boboscus:
Originally posted by ghst:
Ig most people here are transphobic and hate furries.

Most "people" here are 5 y/o kids...

this is terraria not a stock exchange go there if you want to talk with adults
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Rumi May 17, 2020 @ 3:31am 
Originally posted by Drunk Reaper:
Originally posted by Rumi:

sounds equally weak and fragile to give up on your humanity to become a dog
Your humanity definition does not contribute anything to humanity thus you are the one that should be discarded. You do not have any power to change realities so you are weak. Try to change realities then? Ok go change a transgender person. If you can not, you have to accept it. Your mission and beliefs are doomed to fail anyway.

you are mentally ill
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!?! May 17, 2020 @ 3:32am 
Because being boring is a virtue.
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Zemecon May 17, 2020 @ 3:43am 
Originally posted by Rumi:
Originally posted by Drunk Reaper:
If you cant accept realities, you are just weak and fragile. Your neighboor, your cousin or even your son could be any of the stuff you hate.. You either adapt or try to change it (but lose many in the process).

sounds equally weak and fragile to give up on your humanity to become a dog

I would actually disagree with that. Given all the anthropocentric attitudes we already have, to not want to be human or to say you hate humanity or look down on it...would involve a lot of courage.



Originally posted by OmniFurious:
It'd be better if it was shown through the game than in some discord.

That's ironic. It sounds so ironic - given the attitudes we are currently facing - that I think you're lying.

Originally posted by OmniFurious:
What I don't respect is the over the top furthread roleplay style chat and not something thought out.

Neither is "BTW, I'm a cis-male and I like girls!" So they don't put it in unless too many assumptions are wrong to the point where further clarification is required on what is in the game.

Originally posted by OmniFurious:
So you would rather the community be split because the devs told the tran group one thing and the normal people something else? We'd be exactly where we are now.

That's a false dichotomy. Relogic isn't lying about what they have told us about any of the other NPC's so the information they give is the same for everyone. If the Zoologist NPC turns out to be transgendered, and they do/did say anything about it, everyone will be presented with the same information.

Originally posted by OmniFurious:
J.K.Rowling wrote a story years ago, now she's trying to retcon it with information that doesn't matter, and in some cases doesn't make sense, just to appeal to other groups and score brownie points.

From one perspective, maybe, but I have no idea which story you're referring to so I am betting this is false.

Originally posted by OmniFurious:
It's a gimmick when it's done this way. My arguement has never been whether it belongs in the game, it's that it wasn't done right, and if they aren't going to make it have an affect on the character in game why bother pushing it on the players.

Adding an unofficial backstory is not "pushing" anything on players. Look at how many people didn't even know that backstory. Relogic was probably asked a question and they answered it. Your not liking it does not make it a gimmick. If they put that information into the game then they would be giving some players a pragmatic reason to go after them. So of course they are not going to do that.

EDIT: Added a word and a period.
Last edited by Zemecon; May 17, 2020 @ 3:47am
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Locked101 May 17, 2020 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by Necrosian:
I don't care about trans part, I care a bout furry part. Furry degenerates deserve the oven!
That makes you sound like a fascist saying people cannot do what they want
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Rumi May 17, 2020 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by Endymion:
Originally posted by Rumi:

sounds equally weak and fragile to give up on your humanity to become a dog

I would actually disagree with that. Given all the anthropocentric attitudes we already have, to not want to be human or to say you hate humanity or look down on it...would involve a lot of courage.

maybe 100 years ago but these days you get people clamouring to defend furries
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Rumi May 17, 2020 @ 3:49am 
Originally posted by LockedMan101:
Originally posted by Necrosian:
I don't care about trans part, I care a bout furry part. Furry degenerates deserve the oven!
That makes you sound like a fascist saying people cannot do what they want

wow you're actually making fascism sound appealing
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