Beetle or Turtle armour against Duke Fishron?

[Peek 'A' Boom]

and what weapon works best against him?

[Dr. McWeazel]

I'd argue in favor of Beetle Armor in most situations. Turtle Armor, however, is better for AFK farming and for use against Duke Fishron or other bosses that hit like trucks.

[Peek 'A' Boom]

Originally posted by Dr. McWeazel, PhD:

I'd argue in favor of Beetle Armor in most situations. Turtle Armor, however, is better for AFK farming and for use against Duke Fishron or other bosses that hit like trucks.

Thanks! I'll be fighting His Grace pretty soon..

[Employee 427]

With Turtle, Master Ninja Gear is a VERY VERY VERY good idea to have on you...

[Drag]

Personally, I'd reccomend the defensive bettle set, but only until you get used to his movements and attacks. It'll make you much more durable, allowing for a few more mistakes.

Once you understand what's going on he becomes a cakewalk to dodge. At which point the extra defense isn't doing much, meaning you can safely switch to an offensive set and dismantle him faster.

[Celator]

Originally posted by Dr. McWeazel, PhD:

Turtle Armor, however, is better for AFK farming and for use against Duke Fishron or other bosses that hit like trucks.

NO. Turtle Armor is one of the worst armors to use against Duke Fishron. You can't tank his hits even with Turtle's defense, so the set bonus is practically useless since you'll want to be dodging him anyway in order to stay alive, and on top of that Turtle gives pretty much no damage bonuses, which you really need for Fishron.

Defensive Beetle is the best armor for defeating Fishron in my opinion, since although you still can't just tank his hits its set bonus will help for when he occasionally hits you. When you learn his patterns and get good at dodging him, though, offensive Beetle or even Shroomite or Spectre will let you kill him faster.

[Employee 427]

Originally posted by Over8001:

Originally posted by Dr. McWeazel, PhD:

Turtle Armor, however, is better for AFK farming and for use against Duke Fishron or other bosses that hit like trucks.

NO. Turtle Armor is one of the worst armors to use against Duke Fishron. You can't tank his hits even with Turtle's defense, so the set bonus is practically useless since you'll want to be dodging him anyway in order to stay alive, and on top of that Turtle gives pretty much no damage bonuses, which you really need for Fishron.

Defensive Beetle is the best armor for defeating Fishron in my opinion, since although you still can't just tank his hits its set bonus will help for when he occasionally hits you. When you learn his patterns and get good at dodging him, though, offensive Beetle or even Shroomite or Spectre will let you kill him faster.

Ummm do you live under a rock? Turtle gives a TON of damage bonuses

[Celator]

Originally posted by The Wombat from Hell:

Ummm do you ive under a rock? Turtle gives a TON of damage bonuses

Yeah, that +14% damage and +12% crit chance is pretty amazing compared to Beetle's +44% damage and +36% melee speed, or, hell, even Hallowed armor's +17% damage and +17% crit chance. Turtle is bad at offense.

[Employee 427]

Originally posted by Over8001:

Originally posted by The Wombat from Hell:

Ummm do you ive under a rock? Turtle gives a TON of damage bonuses

Yeah, that +14% damage and +12% crit chance is pretty amazing compared to Beetle's +44% damage and +36% melee speed, or, hell, even Hallowed armor's +17% damage and +17% crit chance. Turtle is bad at offense.

Go get some accesories. Ill consider your opinion about turtle while Im killing the dungeon guardian in 2 hits.

[Celator]

Originally posted by The Wombat from Hell:

Go get some accesories. Ill consider your opinion about turtle while Im killing the dungeon guardian in 2 hits.

You can't, it takes at least 9 hits to kill the Dungeon Guardian with Turtle armor now. Also, the set bonus is not offense, and against regular enemies it does very little. Not to mention, it requires you to get hit, which, as I've said, is a bad thing when Duke Fishron does 67 damage per hit factoring in Turtle's defense.

And what do accessories have to do with anything? Turtle is still bad whatever accessories you have. Even if you have amazing accessories and you're using Turtle, you could be even better if you used Beetle.

[Employee 427]

Originally posted by Over8001:

Originally posted by The Wombat from Hell:

Go get some accesories. Ill consider your opinion about turtle while Im killing the dungeon guardian in 2 hits.

You can't, it takes at least 9 hits to kill the Dungeon Guardian with Turtle armor now. Also, the set bonus is not offense, and against regular enemies it does very little. Not to mention, it requires you to get hit, which, as I've said, is a bad thing when Duke Fishron does 67 damage per hit factoring in Turtle's defense.

And what do accessories have to do with anything? Turtle is still bad whatever accessories you have. Even if you have amazing accessories and you're using Turtle, you could be even better if you used Beetle.

Really? I only killed him a week ago and it took 2 hits...

[Celator]

Originally posted by The Wombat from Hell:

Really? I only killed him a week ago and it took 2 hits...

Actually, I just checked, and apparently the Dungeon Guardian's defense now applies to Turtle's set bonus as well. So either you're lying, the wiki is wrong, or you're playing on a pirated prior version of Terraria. I'd go check myself but I really don't care that much.

In any case, that has nothing to do with Duke Fishron nor the offensive capability of Turtle Armor.

[Employee 427]

Originally posted by Over8001:

Originally posted by The Wombat from Hell:

Really? I only killed him a week ago and it took 2 hits...

Actually, I just checked, and apparently the Dungeon Guardian's defense now applies to Turtle's set bonus as well. So either you're lying, the wiki is wrong, or you're playing on a pirated prior version of Terraria. I'd go check myself but I really don't care that much.

In any case, that has nothing to do with Duke Fishron nor the offensive capability of Turtle Armor.

Turtle armor: "Enemires take full damage". How is he taking full damage if his defense applies?

[Celator]

Originally posted by The Wombat from Hell:

Turtle armor: "Enemires take full damage". How is he taking full damage if his defense applies?

How does he have 9999 defense and 9999 health? The Dungeon Guardian is not an ordinary enemy, so it shouldn't be any surprise that some rules don't apply to him.

Also, it could be that Turtle reflects the damage as it would be if YOU had no defense, but the enemies' defense still reduces it. I don't know, I didn't pay that much attention when I was using it and I don't know if it's been changed.

[IceNova]

lel i just use Last Prism Nebula Set with a mount with mana flower with super mana potions with op potions to keep u alive just keep on doging and running away tho cuz by the time you will beat duke ur hp with be at 50 hp so keep on grabbing the nebula life regen ball thingyy
i beat him with dis tactic cuz nebula makes ur magic stronger