Rusty: Few beginner master GET FIXED BOI questions

[Retrolicious]

I took like 5 year terraria break, so i wanted to make a fresh new run with melee class & cool labor of love new update.

Special seed: Journey master mode GET FIXED BOI

To ask List:

1. Is fishing bugged now? I seem not to be able to find specific quest fish:
   
2. I made a surface mushroom biome, also the mushroom music is playing, but for some reason i can't fish the amanita surface mushroom fish
   
3. I made a deep "forest" lake in the cavern & underground layers, but for some reason i find there ocean loot, even though its near middle of the map of the hellevator. I tried find there cavern fish like the Demonic hellfish
   
4. Speaking of the demonic hellfish can it maybe be faster fished in underworld lava? Since wiki says it can be fished also in underworld?
   https://terraria.fandom.com/wiki/Angler/Quests?so=search
   
5. Pls don't spoil too much: Is shimmer a hardmode theme? Or is it possible to find this new liquid also in prehardmode?
   
6. For some reason i can't find wooden chests, i need the wooden boomerang: How do i find this?
   
7. Why do i suddenly fish shrimps and ocean related stuff in the middle of the underground area? Is it a fake forest biome? It is near the mossy stone biome ....

I bet i already died like 100 times lmao.

I will update this thread with further "GETFIXEDBOI" questions.

thanks for reading :3

[Azure ☾ ⋆]

引用自 Hedning：

引用自 ᴀᴢᴜʀᴇ ブランドン：

Scarf is not gonna do anything on master.

Lol what? Scarf does more on master than any other difficulty. It's 17% of much stronger attacks, which means it removes a lot more damage.

See kids, this is why you shouldn't do drugs

[Retrolicious]

引用自 Barry：

引用自 ᴀᴢᴜʀᴇ ブランドン：

That is 100% impossible.

Impossible how? It's not completely far-fetched to think that newcomers to the game won't know about the wiki; there is nothing in-game that points to it.

If you are talking about OP, then that is more reasonable. But as they clarified in later comments, they needed a more thorough understanding about certain things, even after consulting the wiki (which I elaborated on right after). I don't really see the harm in asking questions to begin with! Do you?

Thanks for the welcoming answers.
I just put the troll on ignore and we can have further happy discussion.

So i believe torch luck doesnt help at all to speed up the process to get a rod of discord in the hallow? I'm not sure how rare chaos elementals are to begin with. But it seems the mobs spawns down there are pretty random.

So i guess if you say where farming biome mimics for like Daedalus stormbow, torch luck could potentially speed up the process of spawning a mimic, since i believe they are rareish?

To clarify torch luck has no effect on the quality of drops right? They can't upgrade common drops like coins or gel to rare drops like slime staff or rod of discord ?

So most of the time torch luck can help to trigger free events like pirate invasion or let rarer mobs like sniper bones or maybe ice turtles in ice underground spawn?

@Hedning i watched an impressiv sub 4 hour speedrun on master mode. And that player had impressive dodge skills, but also used dodge gear like master ninja, brain of cthulhu and shield of cuthulhu to fast dodge out of harms way.

Also the wiki taked about brain of cthulhu of having hidden crit damage chance and might be considered superior to the worm scarf, because of this.

As i understood it's better to 100% reduce damage or no hit run on master mode than to get hit and just %% reduce damage? Also hallowed armor seems pretty powerful with the invincible set bonus :D

[Spookypizza]

引用自 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈：

引用自 Barry：

Impossible how? It's not completely far-fetched to think that newcomers to the game won't know about the wiki; there is nothing in-game that points to it.

If you are talking about OP, then that is more reasonable. But as they clarified in later comments, they needed a more thorough understanding about certain things, even after consulting the wiki (which I elaborated on right after). I don't really see the harm in asking questions to begin with! Do you?

Thanks for the welcoming answers.
I just put the troll on ignore and we can have further happy discussion.

So i believe torch luck doesnt help at all to speed up the process to get a rod of discord in the hallow? I'm not sure how rare chaos elementals are to begin with. But it seems the mobs spawns down there are pretty random.

So i guess if you say where farming biome mimics for like Daedalus stormbow, torch luck could potentially speed up the process of spawning a mimic, since i believe they are rareish?

To clarify torch luck has no effect on the quality of drops right? They can't upgrade common drops like coins or gel to rare drops like slime staff or rod of discord ?

So most of the time torch luck can help to trigger free events like pirate invasion or let rarer mobs like sniper bones or maybe ice turtles in ice underground spawn?

@Hedning i watched an impressiv sub 4 hour speedrun on master mode. And that player had impressive dodge skills, but also used dodge gear like master ninja, brain of cthulhu and shield of cuthulhu to fast dodge out of harms way.

Also the wiki taked about brain of cthulhu of having hidden crit damage chance and might be considered superior to the worm scarf, because of this.

As i understood it's better to 100% reduce damage or no hit run on master mode than to get hit and just %% reduce damage? Also hallowed armor seems pretty powerful with the invincible set bonus :D

torch luck is so little that you don't even really need to use it unless you are making an AFK farm.

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引用自 ᴀᴢᴜʀᴇ ブランドン：

引用自 Hedning：

Lol what? Scarf does more on master than any other difficulty. It's 17% of much stronger attacks, which means it removes a lot more damage.

See kids, this is why you shouldn't do drugs

clearly someone doesn't get how percentages work

[Hedning]

引用自 ᴀᴢᴜʀᴇ ブランドン：

引用自 Hedning：

Lol what? Scarf does more on master than any other difficulty. It's 17% of much stronger attacks, which means it removes a lot more damage.

See kids, this is why you shouldn't do drugs

Again complete nonsense. Why is my accurate description of the item an indication that I am doing drugs?

[Hedning]

引用自 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈：

As i understood it's better to 100% reduce damage or no hit run on master mode than to get hit and just %% reduce damage? Also hallowed armor seems pretty powerful with the invincible set bonus :D

There are definitely benefits to dodging every few attacks, such as not resetting your heal rate, however that is contrasted against consistency. In master mode fights you are not going to take many hits, so the law of large numbers will not kick in. This means it is quite likely that you won't dodge anything, making it useless.

You have a health pool even on master, even on master + ftw. You don't have to do no hit runs. No hit is only required on daytime empress and obviously in that specific fight worm scarf is useless.

The hallowed armor is great because its dodge is based on time rather than randomness. That is a lot more powerful than both the brain and scarf.

[Azure ☾ ⋆]

引用自 Hedning：

引用自 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈：

As i understood it's better to 100% reduce damage or no hit run on master mode than to get hit and just %% reduce damage? Also hallowed armor seems pretty powerful with the invincible set bonus :D

There are definitely benefits to dodging every few attacks, such as not resetting your heal rate, however that is contrasted against consistency. In master mode fights you are not going to take many hits, so the law of large numbers will not kick in. This means it is quite likely that you won't dodge anything, making it useless.

You have a health pool even on master, even on master + ftw. You don't have to do no hit runs. No hit is only required on daytime empress and obviously in that specific fight worm scarf is useless.

The hallowed armor is great because its dodge is based on time rather than randomness. That is a lot more powerful than both the brain and scarf.

BoConfusion is still more helpful than scarf. 17% does nothing when everything already deals large numbers of damage.

[Hedning]

引用自 ᴀᴢᴜʀᴇ ブランドン：

BoConfusion is still more helpful than scarf. 17% does nothing when everything already deals large numbers of damage.

Like the other guy says it seems you don't know how percentages work. It's going to take more damage off than if you played on easier settings. For example getting hit by the destroyer head in classic with no armor it would absorb 12 damage. In master it would absorb 71 damage. This is very significant.

You may be confusing it with defense. 17 defense doesn't do much against high damage attacks. As a side note this is why defense gets buffed on the higher difficulties, from only reducing 50% of defense rating on classic to 100% on master. The fact that defense is less useful on higher difficulties means damage reduction from eg the scarf is even better.

In master + ftw there are quite a few things that one-shot you even if you have some armor, but the scarf can take you out of this one shot range.

Also the fact that in any situation you take fewer hits in master+ftw means the opportunities for the brain to trigger are fewer, so the likelihood that it won't do anything before you are dead increases. The scarf always triggers and is thus always useful. To kill a player in classic you would have to take a lot of hits, and thus the brain is pretty much guaranteed to trigger multiple times, making it better.

[Azure ☾ ⋆]

That doesn't make the scarf any better. I'm not gonna spend my time talking to some idiot Terraria player, which 99.9% of the community is.

[Spookypizza]

引用自 Hedning：

For example getting hit by the destroyer head in classic with no armor it would absorb 12 damage. In master it would absorb 71 damage. This is very significant.

In master + ftw there are quite a few things that one-shot you even if you have some armor, but the scarf can take you out of this one shot range.

[Retrolicious]

Why do some NPCs "stack" in corners? Currently i got a goblin tinkerer, who is stalkin my nurse and thus i cant heal or smith at the same time. They seem to be scared or want to run in a specific direction, but why both of them?

Is the NPC AI bugged or something? Why they like to stand on EXACT same spot? It really gets annoying lol

[Shinden]

引用自 ᴀᴢᴜʀᴇ ブランドン：

That doesn't make the scarf any better. I'm not gonna spend my time talking to some idiot Terraria player, which 99.9% of the community is.

talk about hot takes :o

[Spookypizza]

引用自 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈：

Why do some NPCs "stack" in corners? Currently i got a goblin tinkerer, who is stalkin my nurse and thus i cant heal or smith at the same time. They seem to be scared or want to run in a specific direction, but why both of them?

Is the NPC AI bugged or something? Why they like to stand on EXACT same spot? It really gets annoying lol

they just do that sometimes. it is not a bug. just reload the world.

[Retrolicious]

Did you guys ever try to kill Empress of light or the Moonlord with minecart tracks?

I kinda like tinkering with arenas, i feel it's the unique selling point of terraria lol ....

I made an automatic minecart farm for duke fishron on top of ocean, quite happy with the design. It kinda felt easy to build?

But with Empress and moonlord my designs kinda fail. Anyone tried this out?

Maybe the Empress is dodging to errating or her bullet hell is not well suited to dodge with a more stiffy minecart? Just not sure,

Maybe i think with jump slopes it would be easier to dodge the deathray or actually is it even possible to dodge deathray of moonlord or you need to HAVE circular dodge with wing / mounts?

cheers for inspirations ...

[Azure ☾ ⋆]

When I first did expert I used minecart on a straight line. You get hit with some attacks for Empress but it was effective.