Mage class is trash now.

[Edwini]

They keep on nerfing the mage class for no reason. Anyone else feeling like mages are more and more useless every update? Even more now with the master mode, which is unplayable as a mage at a certain point.

[Zemecon]

Magic weapons do suffer quite a bit in Master Modecompared with melee but the strength of the mage class comes in its accessories and versatility. You've got the most diverse number of weapons available and you've got atleast 6 mage-exclusive accessories to pick from, which is more than I can say for rangers and melee users.

IMO the class that really suffers in 1.4 is the ranger class. The damage on ranged weapons needs to be buffed to make them comparable to all those projectile swords and there really needs to be way more than just two ranged-exclusive accessories. Right now rangers need to rely on tinkers of the same one or two accessories to max their damage.

[wcc]

What do you mean. After skimming over the changes I'ld say the Mage was buffed spell-wise and armor-wise in 1.4.1, with the exception of Magic Missile, Flamelash and Space Gun and the hats.

[gienekman]

It's not mage being nerfed, it's master mode bloating the monster hps, which mean less stars to keep your damage going.
Either that, or quaffing mana pots and ruining your damage output.

I do love what happened to Razorblade typhoon in 1.4.1 and since it's my no.1 mage weapon i'd say it was a buff.

[Pckables]

I played mage in 1.4.0 Master Mode, and from the patch notes, it looks like Mages should have a better time, honestly. The weaker weapons got good buffs, and then Flamelash got knocked down a peg.
Mages definitely have an extremely tough time until the beginning of hardmode, but I was previously constantly disappointed with most magic weapons until Golem and Fishron. It was hard to beat Cursed Flames and Flamelash in terms of useability, despite how cool weapons like Blood Thorn looked.
Magic weapons were in dire need of balancing, which 1.4.1 seems to have done.

[Shinden]

idk man you can just try playing 1.3, because clearly relogic has no interest in trying to fix this mess

[Ninshu]

they also feel the need to nerf ranger a ton.

[Shinden]

Originally posted by Ninshu-EX:

they also feel the need to nerf ranger a ton.

but they make sure to buff the most interesting to play class, Melee!

[Ninshu]

Originally posted by Shinden-EX:

Originally posted by Ninshu-EX:

they also feel the need to nerf ranger a ton.

but they make sure to buff the most interesting to play class, Melee!

Yes! Relogic never disappoints.

[wcc]

Originally posted by Shinden-EX:

idk man you can just try playing 1.3, because clearly relogic has no interest in trying to fix this mess

They might fail in your eyes, but even the latest patch contains changes labeled as "experimental", so I wouldn't doubt their ambitions.

[Shinden]

Originally posted by wcc:

Originally posted by Shinden-EX:

idk man you can just try playing 1.3, because clearly relogic has no interest in trying to fix this mess

They might fail in your eyes, but even the latest patch contains changes labeled as "experimental", so I wouldn't doubt their ambitions.

the changes in the last patch are experimental? what?

[wcc]

Partially, e.g. here https://i.imgur.com/fLtonRk.png

[Edwini]

Originally posted by Nilandros:

Magic weapons do suffer quite a bit in Master Modecompared with melee but the strength of the mage class comes in its accessories and versatility. You've got the most diverse number of weapons available and you've got atleast 6 mage-exclusive accessories to pick from, which is more than I can say for rangers and melee users.

IMO the class that really suffers in 1.4 is the ranger class. The damage on ranged weapons needs to be buffed to make them comparable to all those projectile swords and there really needs to be way more than just two ranged-exclusive accessories. Right now rangers need to rely on tinkers of the same one or two accessories to max their damage.

Bro, i went from full mage build (Including those op accesories like celestial shell and ankh shield) to average-bad ranger class and got to kill those bosses i had problem dealing with ease. Ranger stills the best class in IMO.

[Edwini]

Originally posted by wcc:

What do you mean. After skimming over the changes I'ld say the Mage was buffed spell-wise and armor-wise in 1.4.1, with the exception of Magic Missile, Flamelash and Space Gun and the hats.

If u go and play master mode with every single class you'll get what i mean. Mage struggles to fight almos every boss in the game due to low defense stats and nos that big of a dmg output, specially on spectre armor, which healing got nerfed to laugh.

[Edwini]

Originally posted by Pckables:

I played mage in 1.4.0 Master Mode, and from the patch notes, it looks like Mages should have a better time, honestly. The weaker weapons got good buffs, and then Flamelash got knocked down a peg.
Mages definitely have an extremely tough time until the beginning of hardmode, but I was previously constantly disappointed with most magic weapons until Golem and Fishron. It was hard to beat Cursed Flames and Flamelash in terms of useability, despite how cool weapons like Blood Thorn looked.
Magic weapons were in dire need of balancing, which 1.4.1 seems to have done.

Yeah, they kinda did something cool there, but still not enough IMO. They either nerf other op classes like ranger and melee or buff the mages tbh. Cause im feeling sad playing on mage and not being able to do sht :(

[Edwini]

Originally posted by gienekman:

It's not mage being nerfed, it's master mode bloating the monster hps, which mean less stars to keep your damage going.
Either that, or quaffing mana pots and ruining your damage output.

I do love what happened to Razorblade typhoon in 1.4.1 and since it's my no.1 mage weapon i'd say it was a buff.

YEAH. New razor is dope, i love it even more. But i mean. You just can't deal with mechanical bosses with a mage build at least you tryhard to get the best of the best and still would be a hard challenge, that wont happen on any other class tbh.