master mode was a mistake

[vaas]

literal master mode is the worst thing added to the game, no new mobs or real items, i was playing master mode in a FTW world but everything has ridiculous konckback, defense, hp, atk, how is possible that a slime with full def and everything damage you over 50, is pretty disgusting that a FTW world is more a master mode than master mode and i know that everyone said this but god, the spawn rate is S.H.I.T even with the best bow in pre-hardmode you can get obliterated by most enemies.

aaaaaaaaaah i dont wanna make a list but jesus christ, this is stupid.

[Luxi]

It's a challenge mode.

[CrescentMouse]

Originally posted by Cywien:

It's a challenge mode.

But. It's not. What about it is an actual challenge. If you're a veteran player it's literally just 50% longer to kill things. No real challenge behind it

[Mr. Unregistered]

That's why is called "Master Mode".

[CrescentMouse]

Originally posted by Mr. Unregistered:

That's why is called "Master Mode". :town_guard:

I don't feel like a master when I'm playing it. i feel like I'm wasting my time.

[Kalcas]

Originally posted by vaas:

literal master mode is the worst thing added to the game, no new mobs or real items, i was playing master mode in a FTW world but everything has ridiculous konckback, defense, hp, atk, how is possible that a slime with full def and everything damage you over 50, is pretty disgusting that a FTW world is more a master mode than master mode and i know that everyone said this but god, the spawn rate is S.H.I.T even with the best bow in pre-hardmode you can get obliterated by most enemies.

aaaaaaaaaah i dont wanna make a list but jesus christ, this is stupid.

you are not forced to play master mode so don't be toxic, there ARE new item added in master mode like pets and mounts, and buffing the mobs is part of the challenge.

[Kalcas]

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Originally posted by Mr. Unregistered:

That's why is called "Master Mode". :town_guard:

I don't feel like a master when I'm playing it. i feel like I'm wasting my time.

don't play master mode then, no need to complain

[vaas]

Originally posted by LK:

Originally posted by vaas:

literal master mode is the worst thing added to the game, no new mobs or real items, i was playing master mode in a FTW world but everything has ridiculous konckback, defense, hp, atk, how is possible that a slime with full def and everything damage you over 50, is pretty disgusting that a FTW world is more a master mode than master mode and i know that everyone said this but god, the spawn rate is S.H.I.T even with the best bow in pre-hardmode you can get obliterated by most enemies.

aaaaaaaaaah i dont wanna make a list but jesus christ, this is stupid.

you are not forced to play master mode so don't be toxic, there ARE new item added in master mode like pets and mounts, and buffing the mobs is part of the challenge.

hurrr durr dont be toxic, only consoom boy, i was expecting master mode to be other thing like expert mode, the answer is not dont play it, the answer is doing an actual master mode, 2 mounts and pets means nothing in a mode that everyone were waiting.

[Atrupelador]

Originally posted by vaas:

Originally posted by LK:

you are not forced to play master mode so don't be toxic, there ARE new item added in master mode like pets and mounts, and buffing the mobs is part of the challenge.

hurrr durr dont be toxic, only consoom boy, i was expecting master mode to be other thing like expert mode, the answer is not dont play it, the answer is doing an actual master mode, 2 mounts and pets means nothing in a mode that everyone was waiting.

Ppl could agree with you if they are playing themselves, but they rather attack you saying yr toxic and to stop complain. They don't get it as to a comment to start a discussion that would lead to make the devs see what they delivered has a problem or something to be addressed. There are always watch tower guys looking to attack people who complain. I'm with you buddy they would have made a better job.

[CrescentMouse]

Originally posted by LK:

Originally posted by vaas:

literal master mode is the worst thing added to the game, no new mobs or real items, i was playing master mode in a FTW world but everything has ridiculous konckback, defense, hp, atk, how is possible that a slime with full def and everything damage you over 50, is pretty disgusting that a FTW world is more a master mode than master mode and i know that everyone said this but god, the spawn rate is S.H.I.T even with the best bow in pre-hardmode you can get obliterated by most enemies.

aaaaaaaaaah i dont wanna make a list but jesus christ, this is stupid.

you are not forced to play master mode so don't be toxic, there ARE new item added in master mode like pets and mounts, and buffing the mobs is part of the challenge.

But, it's not challenging. The point of master mode is for veterans to play. But veterans know how to dodge, if you can dodge that destroys the damage bloat. So what's left? 50% more time to kill things. Wow, soooooo challenging. I love games where the difficulty is just adding health.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by vaas:

Originally posted by LK:

you are not forced to play master mode so don't be toxic, there ARE new item added in master mode like pets and mounts, and buffing the mobs is part of the challenge.

hurrr durr dont be toxic, only consoom boy, i was expecting master mode to be other thing like expert mode, the answer is not dont play it, the answer is doing an actual master mode, 2 mounts and pets means nothing in a mode that everyone were waiting.

If you hyperbole something, do it smart, and not in a ♥♥♥♥ way by stating obvious falsehood.

The thing is, you expected something different. That one is on you. Your expectation ruined it, not the mode itself.
If you do not enjoy it, don't play it. Stick to expert mode.
Noone promised you anything about a master mode that wasn't true in the end, so I don't see why you assume you should've gotten something else.

Also git gud.

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Originally posted by LK:

you are not forced to play master mode so don't be toxic, there ARE new item added in master mode like pets and mounts, and buffing the mobs is part of the challenge.

But, it's not challenging. The point of master mode is for veterans to play. But veterans know how to dodge, if you can dodge that destroys the damage bloat. So what's left? 50% more time to kill things. Wow, soooooo challenging. I love games where the difficulty is just adding health.

I hardly doubt you or anyone else is so good that he dodges every single mob and attack. You might be good at it, but you will do a mistake and master mode will punish you.
Also, since everyone ignores it, or deliberately doesn't say it, master mode tweaked some AI by making mobs and bosses more aggressive, so no, master mode is not only 50% more TTK.

[vaas]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Originally posted by vaas:

hurrr durr dont be toxic, only consoom boy, i was expecting master mode to be other thing like expert mode, the answer is not dont play it, the answer is doing an actual master mode, 2 mounts and pets means nothing in a mode that everyone were waiting.

If you hyperbole something, do it smart, and not in a ♥♥♥♥ way by stating obvious falsehood.

The thing is, you expected something different. That one is on you. Your expectation ruined it, not the mode itself.
If you do not enjoy it, don't play it. Stick to expert mode.
Noone promised you anything about a master mode that wasn't true in the end, so I don't see why you assume you should've gotten something else.

Also git gud.

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

But, it's not challenging. The point of master mode is for veterans to play. But veterans know how to dodge, if you can dodge that destroys the damage bloat. So what's left? 50% more time to kill things. Wow, soooooo challenging. I love games where the difficulty is just adding health.

I hardly doubt you or anyone else is so good that he dodges every single mob and attack. You might be good at it, but you will do a mistake and master mode will punish you.
Also, since everyone ignores it, or deliberately doesn't say it, master mode tweaked some AI by making mobs and bosses more aggressive, so no, master mode is not only 50% more TTK.

well boy let me telll you this then

-how do you dodge worms underground?
-how do dodge an enemy meanwhile you are fighting a boss?, even that enemy does more damage than the boss
-how can you take pillars down?
-how you fight againts the bone zone in FTW world mastermode and even postplantera?
-how is possible that a slime still do high amount of damage with full solar armor?
-how you dodge bullets from pirates?
-how you dodge or look an small enemy like that clown bomb and i am talking about the bomb that has feet

because you cheese something doesnt mean you are master, mean you are doing the same thing over and over again, in the begining enemies one hits you, enemies that you cant defend yourself because you cant do the enough damage to protect you, tell me, you have fun in dessert master mode and even more in a FTW world?, no, because the mode doesnt feel fun, and like a wise man said, "if it is not fun, why worry?.

[Roxor]

Not really a mistake but a letdown from hype

also sure it only make fighting more tedious (for veteran) but still an increase to challenge

[Zelph]

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Originally posted by Cywien:

It's a challenge mode.

But. It's not. What about it is an actual challenge. If you're a veteran player it's literally just 50% longer to kill things. No real challenge behind it

Have played through several times, including once or twice on expert. Master mode is still very much a challenge. Don't like it, don't play it. That simple.

[Marcawn]

Pre-Hardmode was easy for me in Master Mode, except the Queen Bee.

The hardest parts of Master Mode is the mechanical trio & Moon Lord.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by vaas:

well boy let me telll you this then

-how do you dodge worms underground?
-how do dodge an enemy meanwhile you are fighting a boss?, even that enemy does more damage than the boss
-how can you take pillars down?
-how you fight againts the bone zone in FTW world mastermode and even postplantera?
-how is possible that a slime still do high amount of damage with full solar armor?
-how you dodge bullets from pirates?
-how you dodge or look an small enemy like that clown bomb and i am talking about the bomb that has feet

because you cheese something doesnt mean you are master, mean you are doing the same thing over and over again, in the begining enemies one hits you, enemies that you cant defend yourself because you cant do the enough damage to protect you, tell me, you have fun in dessert master mode and even more in a FTW world?, no, because the mode doesnt feel fun, and like a wise man said, "if it is not fun, why worry?.

It was not my argument, but CrescentMouses.
How do I dodge worms? Well, I hear them. I get to a more open area ASAP so I can attack it and dodge it.
How do I dodge an enemy when I fight a boss? By using W, A, S, D and the Spacebar and killing the enemy.
How do I take pillars down? by having good equipment, knowing the enemies and knowing what I do. Also using Spectre armor.
I fight skeletons by being good, being prepared and having my dungeon prepared in pre-hardmode, by making it convenient for me. by having good gear and knowing what to do.
Slimes receive a huge buff when you enter hardmode or fight certain bosses, so they do not become useless low-♥♥♥♥ enemies by the end of the game. It is intended to keep them dangerous. Also Solar armor is just meh.
How do I dodge bullets? By not dodging them. By preparing a proper arena and simply kill then through walls. I have not died to a single pirate invasion in master mode or FTW.
How do I dodge the clown summons? By seeing them, seeing where they move and not moving there.
If you cheese something, it means you've mastered not only the boss, but any other aspect of the game. Means you actually know what you do, not that you do it over and over again.
I never had issues killing enemies fast, not even in pre-hardmode, because I know how to get powerful gear fast.

And yes. I do have fun with those. When 1.4 rolled in I created a master mode world with a fresh character. I never ever played expert mode. I had insane fun with it, because you actually feel the achievements you make. When you finally kill the boss you spent the entire night fighting against and dying over and over. When you finally get the item you grinded for and died 10 times over to get it.
And I steamrolled master mode. I killed Duke Fishron before I killed Plantera. I killed every single boss, including Empress of Light day mode with any class setup you can have. Melee-oriented, ranger, mage and a mixed summoner.
I had a lot of fun.
And now I play master mode. And all my strategies I used to cheese bosses do not work anymore. I can't outtank or outheal what I did in master mode, so I need to do different strategies to fight the bosses who are harder. That is fun to me. It takes a bit to achieve something. I just did beat Plantera and am in the process of getting all drops I want from the Dungeon, to fight EoL and Duke Fishron. I need to strategize on how to beat them more easily, and that is fun.
Gitting gud is fun.
Do not blame the game if you simply can't find fun in the game. A wise man, well, it was me, said once: "If the game does not motivate you by gameplay, do not play it. Play something else."

Your comment simply wakes the assumption that you never really tried to achieve something in MM/FTW, died a few times, maybe cheated gear in. It feels like you want to say you beaten them, but you lack basic knowledge any relatively good Terraria player has about the game, so my asumption is that you should git gud.