Torch negative luck still exists to an extent

[Teräs Makkara~]

According to the wiki, the torches will not ever get your luck in the negative, which is good. HOWEVER, the torches still *do* inflict negative luck in the way that, if you have the right torches in the right biome, but also have wrong or regular torches in said biome as well, the negative luck COUNTERACTS the good luck. This still shouldn't happen, since it means that you have to replace all the regular torches in most cases to even allow good luck to happen.

[Nightryderace]

It's fine this way. You are no longer punished for using the wrong torches, but rather encouraged to use the correct ones.

[NewRaven]

I also think this is a perfect solution now... you don't have a "right" for positive luck... so if you want to use that mechanic, put some work and/or thoughts in it... but now you don't get punished if you don't want to care about torch placement. That's what it was all about.

[Halfshell]

Its fine because theres no penalty so at worse its the same as vanilla. More often than not this is in the player's favor even if you don't know about it, especially in the dungeon and jungle. Only problem is theres no way to know about it without being spoiled.

[Teräs Makkara~]

The only problem I really have is that putting up the right torches is already something that you're incentivised to do anyway. But if there are regular torches, which I'm pretty sure everyone has all over the place the first time they've explored the area anyway, it just means you have to first take alllll of the regular torches off first before putting the right ones. The new player meanwhile would not know about torch luck in the first place. That being said, it IS still better this way than actively punishing the player for it, but ya know. That's my opinion on it anyway.

[Halfshell]

Well, that only matters in the Desert, Snow and Corruption/ Crimson. Otherwise its more for punishing biome torch clashing. If it really bothers you, just use neutral torches 90% of the time (I recommend gem torches) and use biome torches for farming/ bossfights.

[Teräs Makkara~]

You only really use regular torches when exploring said biomes for the first time is the thing, and that's usually the time when neutral torches are gonna be hard to get, especially when gems are valuable for making mage staffs and robes for example. Ultrabright torches and bone torches are only gotten from the traveling merchant or bone merchant with good rng. At the very least it would be nice if the game would let you know before hand that if you want better luck, make matching torches when exploring those areas or something like that.

[EstebanLB01]

Repeating as many other above me, it is to encourage to get a bonus and removing punishment for not pursuing it. The fix is perfect

[Halfshell]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Teräs Makkara~:

You only really use regular torches when exploring said biomes for the first time is the thing, and that's usually the time when neutral torches are gonna be hard to get, especially when gems are valuable for making mage staffs and robes for example. Ultrabright torches and bone torches are only gotten from the traveling merchant or bone merchant with good rng. At the very least it would be nice if the game would let you know before hand that if you want better luck, make matching torches when exploring those areas or something like that.

I pretty much never explore any of those biomes before I'd have access to neutral torches (gems are so common) is the thing. Sometimes I'll dip into snow but ice torches are easy to craft. Inrfact, all biome torches are all easy to craft besides jungle torches but regular torches don't have a minus there. Its really not hard to play around this, it wasn't even before when it would punish you. The problem is still that the game doesn't tell you that theres this hidden mechanic anywhere. Its easy enough to use once you know it exists.. I mean just add a luck meter or smthn already..

[The Hopping Commissar]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von EstebanLB01:

Repeating as many other above me, it is to encourage to get a bonus and removing punishment for not pursuing it. The fix is perfect

The effect on other sources of luck makes it still a punishment. But it's a manageable level now, I can make peace with this arrangement.

The insanely bad optimization of the luck system is something I'm not going to stop harping on though.

[EstebanLB01]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rabaid Sidhe:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von EstebanLB01:

Repeating as many other above me, it is to encourage to get a bonus and removing punishment for not pursuing it. The fix is perfect

The effect on other sources of luck makes it still a punishment. But it's a manageable level now, I can make peace with this arrangement.

The insanely bad optimization of the luck system is something I'm not going to stop harping on though.

It doesn't affect other luck sources, only good luck torches

[Halfshell]

The specific mechanic is any torch luck below 0 is instead 0. So yes, negative torch luck only clashes with other sources of positive torch luck.

[Alucard †]

It's perfectly balanced now
As all things should be.

Sorry been watching MCU movies lately