Age of Empires® III (2007)

Age of Empires® III (2007)

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Definitive or Original?
Let me start off by saying that I am only here because, for whatever reason(s), the physical copy of this game that I got in 2012 isn't installing properly in my new computer (new as off almost a year ago, but whatever.) I don't know if it's because the version I have isn't compatible with Windows 10 or something else, but I decided it might just be easier to by the game from Steam.

Trouble is, if it is a Windows 10 thing, then I would need to get the Definitive Edition, but the reviews I've read for that makes it seem not worth the money at all. So, if those reviews are correct and the remaster is trash, then if I were to buy this version from Steam, would it work with Windows 10?

Can anyone confirm that the regular version of AoE 3 works with Windows 10?
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Eaglemut Oct 19, 2020 @ 8:12pm 
Originally posted by BlackMetalKnight:
Can anyone confirm that the regular version of AoE 3 works with Windows 10?
It does work, but the Definitive Edition is overall both better and cheaper. Many of the reviews are complaining about inconsequential things like renamed ages.

There are some issues as the game has just been released, but you can expect official patches come in and fix those (unlike for the 2007 version, which will keep all of its bugs forever now).
Arckal Oct 19, 2020 @ 8:32pm 
Regular version works well on W10. Try entering the game's activitation key on steam. Not sure it will work but you should give it a try.
Kvölsviðr Oct 19, 2020 @ 10:16pm 
Originally posted by Eaglemut:
Originally posted by BlackMetalKnight:
It does work, but the Definitive Edition is overall both better and cheaper. Many of the reviews are complaining about inconsequential things like renamed ages.

There are some issues as the game has just been released, but you can expect official patches come in and fix those (unlike for the 2007 version, which will keep all of its bugs forever now).

Inconsequential things, like sacrificing historical accuracy in a game where historical accuracy is important to many of the players?
DE has new additions like: glaring bugs that cause the AI to be mentally deficient, bugs that cause multiplayer interruptions, poor code optimization causing various slowdowns and framerate/frame tearing issues - or perhaps the inferior texture work, water that isn't transparent unless set to "low", and uncanny appearance in building and unit destruction (ships and buildings collapsing in on themselves as opposed to realistically crumbling), and other "fantastic" visual changes that make the game look more gloomy. (It's true the original had bloom that many players found annoying, thankfully of which can be altered and and disabled.) But hey, at least the models are higher poly in DE!

The "keep all its bugs forever" is blatantly incorrect and a bit laughable. The '07 version has a dedicated modding community which to this year has released balance patches, AI improvements, new units/unit alterations, new civilizations and other scripting optimizations.

And no, with this new studio - you shouldn't expect proper patches and bug fixes from a team who has hardly any clue as to what they're doing.

The only downside to purchasing the older version is the price tag.
Last edited by Kvölsviðr; Oct 19, 2020 @ 10:19pm
❄إِيثرال Oct 19, 2020 @ 10:39pm 
Definitive for me
❄إِيثرال Oct 19, 2020 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by Eaglemut:
Originally posted by BlackMetalKnight:
Can anyone confirm that the regular version of AoE 3 works with Windows 10?
It does work, but the Definitive Edition is overall both better and cheaper. Many of the reviews are complaining about inconsequential things like renamed ages.

There are some issues as the game has just been released, but you can expect official patches come in and fix those (unlike for the 2007 version, which will keep all of its bugs forever now).
100% last patch was from 2010 or 2009 lol
Kvölsviðr Oct 19, 2020 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by ❄إِيثرال:
Originally posted by Eaglemut:
100% last patch was from 2010 or 2009 lol
Last *official* patch. If you ignore the extremely well-made community patches, you're really missing out.
Eaglemut Oct 19, 2020 @ 11:33pm 
Community patches are great, and I did what I could to both develop and promote the ESOC Patch as much as possible over the past 4 years or so. But there is only so much we can do as unofficial modders. The vast majority of players of the 2007 version still remain on the official decade-old patch, meaning new players are effectively forced to play there too, if they want to find others for multiplayer. That's just the harsh reality, even though I've tried everything to change it.

DE has finally given us an official solution that includes pretty much all the fixes and balance changes we've been working on for years on the old version. And because it's official, we got thousands of players playing it. It's a shame that the game was released with some glaring issues before it was ready, but we have official support now and I can assure you the devs are working on fixing these issues.
Kvölsviðr Oct 20, 2020 @ 2:28am 
Oh... so that's the reason your name seemed so damn familiar.

Well then, I'll take your word for it with the dev's fixing issues. When it comes to comes to remasters being released with bad optimization and support, it seems we've been getting repeatedly burned these last few years :squirtmeh:
❄إِيثرال Oct 20, 2020 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses:
Oh... so that's the reason your name seemed so damn familiar.

Well then, I'll take your word for it with the dev's fixing issues. When it comes to comes to remasters being released with bad optimization and support, it seems we've been getting repeatedly burned these last few years :squirtmeh:
they fix the optimization whith Hotfix patch for me
Cooperal Oct 20, 2020 @ 11:05pm 
DE if you want the multiplayer community. On one hand people are reporting the multiplayer to be less stable (i.e. causing client side crashes) but on the other hands it's where the community is right now. Additionally the grind has been removed for cards meaning everyone is at a level playing field.

Go with the original for PvE. The AI of DE seems drastically different but for the worse. Even on higher difficulties they will mostly ignore important game elements like trade posts.

They seem to get trapped in a never ending loop of thought if they are given the opportunity to reach the final age, which causes them to no longer send any of their military your way. They can reduce your town to the brink of extinction, but as long as you have one villager outside of their LoS when they achieve age 5 the victory is pretty much yours on a plate.

Again if you also liked the grind for cards, go with the original. DE still lets you grind for levels but it only unlocks some barebones customisation options for your home city. If you're playing as the expansion civs levelling doesn't even give you that.

Two new factions in DE if you're the type of person to learn the ins and outs of playing as every faction. They hardly flip the game on its head if you prefer to stick with your favourites.
Rhalius Oct 21, 2020 @ 1:22am 
Definitive edition is better.

Most complaints are about slight name changes which can already be reverted by mods. And now you can find mods ingame in the menu and download them there too.
And give it some time and modders will likely revert back all changes people are whining about.

And seeing how well AOE2 DE is supported, I have no doubts the team is on top of patching AOE3 DE to the best of their ability as well. There's always some problems with any game on release.
Personally I have not encountered problems yet aside from once or twice a soldier moving a bit odd, the occasional villager acting illogical and I have not tried the campaigns yet since I hear there's some problems there so I wait for a patch to focus on fixing that.

The Inca's and Swedes are a lot of fun to play, they are great new factions I wouldn't want to miss out on, especially in a game with not that many factions.

Some good gameplay improvements have been made too, like age up mechanics are better now for European factions.
You can also select player colours in the options, adjusting them to your personal taste.

And of course the graphics look better.

Don't let the complainers fool you, it's mainly just the very vocal minority who'd always wine about SJW's even when there's none in sight and the actual bugs might be bad for some players, but for the majority it's nothing too bad, nothing game breaking and it's going to be patched.

I have played actually broken games on release, games that should have been released months if not more than a year later, but this is not one of those.
This is not Neverwinter Nights 2, Rome total war 2 or any other game that was released in a truly abyssmal state.
Thrax Oct 25, 2020 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by Rhalius:
Definitive edition is better.

Most complaints are about slight name changes which can already be reverted by mods. And now you can find mods ingame in the menu and download them there too.
And give it some time and modders will likely revert back all changes people are whining about.

And seeing how well AOE2 DE is supported, I have no doubts the team is on top of patching AOE3 DE to the best of their ability as well. There's always some problems with any game on release.
Personally I have not encountered problems yet aside from once or twice a soldier moving a bit odd, the occasional villager acting illogical and I have not tried the campaigns yet since I hear there's some problems there so I wait for a patch to focus on fixing that.

The Inca's and Swedes are a lot of fun to play, they are great new factions I wouldn't want to miss out on, especially in a game with not that many factions.

Some good gameplay improvements have been made too, like age up mechanics are better now for European factions.
You can also select player colours in the options, adjusting them to your personal taste.

And of course the graphics look better.

Don't let the complainers fool you, it's mainly just the very vocal minority who'd always wine about SJW's even when there's none in sight and the actual bugs might be bad for some players, but for the majority it's nothing too bad, nothing game breaking and it's going to be patched.

I have played actually broken games on release, games that should have been released months if not more than a year later, but this is not one of those.
This is not Neverwinter Nights 2, Rome total war 2 or any other game that was released in a truly abyssmal state.


Looking at the review would indicate otherwise.
The numbers will change as more review, but being in the mixed territory doesn't bode well.
WarDaddy Oct 25, 2020 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by BlackMetalKnight:
Let me start off by saying that I am only here because, for whatever reason(s), the physical copy of this game that I got in 2012 isn't installing properly in my new computer (new as off almost a year ago, but whatever.) I don't know if it's because the version I have isn't compatible with Windows 10 or something else, but I decided it might just be easier to by the game from Steam.

Trouble is, if it is a Windows 10 thing, then I would need to get the Definitive Edition, but the reviews I've read for that makes it seem not worth the money at all. So, if those reviews are correct and the remaster is trash, then if I were to buy this version from Steam, would it work with Windows 10?

Can anyone confirm that the regular version of AoE 3 works with Windows 10?

New game is trash! I cant play a multiplayer game without it crashing! even after the patch! Also they did something to the old AOE3 that blocks you form playing a multiplayer game. I am not the only person having this issue as at least two other friends are having the same issues.
hellatze Oct 26, 2020 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by BlackMetalKnight:
Let me start off by saying that I am only here because, for whatever reason(s), the physical copy of this game that I got in 2012 isn't installing properly in my new computer (new as off almost a year ago, but whatever.) I don't know if it's because the version I have isn't compatible with Windows 10 or something else, but I decided it might just be easier to by the game from Steam.

Trouble is, if it is a Windows 10 thing, then I would need to get the Definitive Edition, but the reviews I've read for that makes it seem not worth the money at all. So, if those reviews are correct and the remaster is trash, then if I were to buy this version from Steam, would it work with Windows 10?

Can anyone confirm that the regular version of AoE 3 works with Windows 10?
save your money. what they did basically resell with add few feature.
InfinityJosh Oct 27, 2020 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by El Fabuloso:
Original is better, FAR better. The Definitive edition has been a major failure. A flop. It has actually worse graphics and is terribly optimised. Most people have already refunded it, stick to the Original!
Yeah
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