Jey's Empire

Jey's Empire

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jeremy5-7-10 Aug 3, 2022 @ 10:26am
Self-control and UC agents
It seems a bit unbalanced to lose self control points when you pull out an endangered agent out of a communist organization, you're already losing highly placed intel sources, and even J edgar hoover didn't want his agents getting murdered. Just seems kinda gamey to punish the player for responding to a warning flag. Feels very inauthentic.
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Maestro Cinetik  [developer] Aug 3, 2022 @ 12:39pm 
Which organization was it?
The game functions this way: every means/agent taken of a communist organization makes you lose Self Control.
Use Agent Maraud to make some black bag jobs to quickly regain your lost Self-Control.
jeremy5-7-10 Aug 3, 2022 @ 9:44pm 
It was the communist party of indiannapolis i think, but they told me he was in danger. I lost like 20 points for one dude because he was high level and they were powerful
The Zodiac Gamer Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:44pm 
I think it's a good mechanic. As time goes on you'll be wanting to shift focus to the Mafia and KKK from the (fairly) harmless communists. However this is very psychologically hard for Hoover to accept who still is adamant that communism is the biggest danger to America. His discomfort at being pressured into reassigning agents into tackling what he still feels are minor concerns compared to communists is reflected in the Self-Control loss.

The communists make a nice punching bag to keep trust scores high though (unlike the mafia and KKK whose cases are a lot tougher to crack).

Likewise there's quite a few ways to keep JEH's Self-Control high. Use 'help' on right-wing groups (like John Birch Society, American Legion, Citizens Councils, American Nazi Party) if you have some agents spare. Making decisions in-line with Hoover's personality in dialogues. Use 'spread dissent' or black ops on progressive groups that have abilities to damage Self-Control.

In general I don't bother pulling agents out very often. You yearly get enough fresh agents that losing 1 or 2 here and there doesn't mean much (and that high levelled undercover on that case will have to start from scratch again when reassigned anyway). Might as well take the risk to keep the case score progressing.
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