Spain or France

[Cybot]

I want to play a campaign as either Spain or France, but i have a hard time deciding. Any reason i should choose one over the other?

[Sanjuro357]

Have a look at the territories they both have and think about what you want to do, who you want to conquer. Spain owns most of South America and Mexico, whilst France has colonies in North America. They both have some land in Europe as well, though Spain has more European territory. Think about your overall plan and go from there.

[Cybot]

Thanks for the help :)

[Ruairi Kid]

Choose Spain. They're situated in a better spot than France and have more terratories.

[Cybot]

Originally posted by ruairikid:

Choose Spain. They're situated in a better spot than France and have more terratories.

Yea i ended up going with spain :D

[RAMBO]

why not Britain or Prussia both my fav

[LithiumFemmek]

FRANCE

[Biggardo99[55iron3]]

I like Russia, even though their economy isn't the best at the start of the game, they still are fun faction to play as...they have a huge territory in Europe and they also have a bigger area to build larger armies...ive been playing as them and i now can proudly say that so far ive conqured Prussa, Sweden and most of the Ottoman Empire also most of eastern Europe and some islands...i even took some Iroquce land from the Natives and am in North America at the moment...next stop for me is India :) P.S (surprisingly my Economy,Navy and Army are the best(#1) in the whole game, even though im Russia :)

[Aleander Beta]

I played both France and Spain and I have to say that the better one is Spain to me.
First of all because in the european theatre spanish territory are far easier to defend and manage: mainly marrocco and Italy.
With France you have to face directly United Provincies and United Kingdom almost at once, and even if you beat them fast and without big losses you will face an intense age of rebellions in their ex capital regions that will force a large amount of your troops to stay there just as garrisons. Also the only place where you will be able to recruit cavalry is just the France region itself and is not exactly light cavalry but rather lancers.. usually less effective in general.
Second point: in America spanish colonies are safe on islands where, immediately, you will be able to recruit "frontiersmen" which are an awesome long range infantry that don't need "fire by rank" tech to make them all shoot while line infatry needs it. And the spanish Mission to take control over his protectorate is the easiest of the three (one for each Spain, United Kingdom, France). Let alone the fact that South America is richer than North thanks to mines.
With Spain you can support your troops and expand really fast everywhere (America, India, Middle East) thanks to their powerful navy, the strongest in game. French Navy is terrible instead.. when I played them I took immediately England just to use their shipwrights to make a decent fleet.
The only positive things I have found of France are the income in the France region, which is probably the highest you could have in Europe, but you will really need that cash to pay your armies, and the city of Montreal in America that is the strongest city available in America at the start.
Many give also an army advantage to France because, on paper, France has a really strong late game army (better than the spanish one which is just standard) but for 80% of your campaign you actually wont have that superiority.

[Rasmus K]

I can only play Sweden. Their military might beats them all

[Cybot]

Originally posted by RAMBO:

why not Britain or Prussia both my fav

I have already done a World Domination with Prussia, and im not a big fan of Britain.

[Cybot]

Originally posted by Biggardo9955iron3:

I like Russia, even though their economy isn't the best at the start of the game, they still are fun faction to play as...they have a huge territory in Europe and they also have a bigger area to build larger armies...ive been playing as them and i now can proudly say that so far ive conqured Prussa, Sweden and most of the Ottoman Empire also most of eastern Europe and some islands...i even took some Iroquce land from the Natives and am in North America at the moment...next stop for me is India :) P.S (surprisingly my Economy,Navy and Army are the best(#1) in the whole game, even though im Russia :)

Im planning to do a Russian campaign after this :)

[Scrany]

Well, Spain is better placed strategically, has a large part of the provinces of South America, and to complete a mission, you join New Spain, which will give you great wealth and power. In Spain you can attack making you go to Morocco and Africa. Instead, the French position is very vulnerable to attack, as it has many borders with other countries. I would recommend Spain, because France also is your ally, so you do not have to worry about his attack.

[larrythexii]

I love playing spain, sell all european possesions which are not cost effective to defend (they are no.1 cause for other nations to declare war on you) and use those armies to quickly crush portugal and morocco (use navy to shield against morocco and hit portugal first) focus on colonies and defeating pirates early on, and capture pirate ships for nice easy money. Basically they start out with too much territory and not enough troops to properly hold it all so sell anything that costs more to defend than it is worth and disband any starting troops that you dont immediatly use.

[general joe]

Its much easier to use France esp if you have the darthmod installed which gives you some killer infantry units in the early game, and if you can spend a few turns at the beginning to boost your resources you can generate a massive economy backed by an effective fighting force

[rock puppy]

well, I choose Austria! You can crush the Ottomans and Poles, well maybe some trouble with Prussia, but if Russia becomes an ally, you have almost full comtrol of the eastern Europe, then just go to a war with France and Spain, try to win Italy. You can also aquire colonies easily in the early game, but you have to secure Gibraltar not to be bothered by the Spanish.