ETW crashes during end of turn cycle on United States

[JDsanja]

Playing as Austria, 1781, going for Europe achievement. France was destroyed and some of it's colonies reverted to rebels but no pirates. end turn, gets to US and crash..

I've tried everything i can think of, and several fixes in the forums from increasing virtual memory to turning off AVG.

One post suggested to declare war on the nation it crashes on so i did, and it crashed when i sent the declaration. I'm meticulous about deleting save files so :( no going back to previous save point.

any ideas?

[JDsanja]

also crashed just now when i tried to give them military access.

[Inardesco]

Sounds like a corrupted save file. The only way to fix this ingame, is by doing something that will completely require a new way to think for the AI. However, reading this it hasn't done that. So the only thing that can be thought of is to revert to an older save file. If you have them. I usually create a new save file with every battle I enter and evertime I close the game and the autosave. So for me it's possible to go back a couple of years.

[JDsanja]

yeah that's my conclusion as well, my problem is im bad at overwriting save files because it's never done this before, but i have a new habit after this, save A LOT. LOL

[Inardesco]

The best way to do this is not to use the save file from before. So the game creates a new save file accordingly of your faction and the year (also winter/summer I think) and by scrolling through all the save files you also have a sort of roadmap for how you're nation went from tiny teeny s - h - i - t to holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ big.

I just had to remove the hearties because I managed to make it into a rhyme :P

[Chungoosa]

validate your files

[JDsanja]

since i had completed the Prestige victory conditions, i decided to start over with France, to try and shore up things in the Americas and be less of a a**hole to the other nations like i was with Austria. was trying to get perfidious beast achievement, never popped yurg :/ but i just decided to restart with france on Hard to get that achievement then try Emperor of Europe again.

Thanks for all the feedback!

[Inardesco]

Trying to take over India is more difficult then Europe and America combined!

[☢molotov moss †]

For anybody still playing this in 2020 and beyond, i figured out the crash on the turn of the US. Around 1770, the game kept crashing during the turn for the US, after numerous instances of trial and error, i was able to pinpoint a certain US unit that was causing the crash. US commander Cloudsley Croucher is the reason. If he moves into any US held town center, the game will crash. If he is killed in battle, the game will crash. If the US gets wiped out (thus wiping him out) the game will crash. Here are your options:

1. Reload a game and never allow the US to come into existence
2. If the US already exists, reload a game and make sure to wipe the US out before he is recruited as a commander
3. If you can't do 1 or 2, then immediately declare war on the US. If possible, defeat the army he is attached to but without killing him. For me, i did this and it was just Croucher and an artillery unit. I then proceeded to fence him in with 8 separated units, because any move he would make after that would immediately trigger a battle which he obviously could not win. I then destroyed the US to the point they only had one region left. I surrounded that region with a few stacks of troops to make sure they could never venture outside of that region again. If the US was at war with any other nations, i was sure to declare war on those other nations if they tried to finish off the US. You would need to do the same if anybody came to kill off Croucher. I therefore completely isolated them but also protected them. This allowed me to play the rest of the game without any crashes.

[operating1]

Recently had CTDs with a US rake that was scouting Moscovy. If I cursor the rake, bang CTD, go to list that has the rakes name and cursor, bang CTD. When the US captured Moscovy, bang----"The bug went away"!! Then was able to use rake normally.. I'll admit: A bug on the ai's turn is a bit different (harder to find a solution for)..

[Dengero]

Yeppp definitely USA because I destroyed england and USA came into existence and now I didn't have an extra save so I just nixed my own campaign because I can't even declare war on united states or anything...

[Didz]

This sort of thing usually happens if the game and data files become incompatible.

I had a problem for ages where whenever a light dragoon unit tried to fire from the saddle during a battle the game crashed. Got to the point where that only way to play through an entire campaign was to avoid recruiting Light Dragoons and ensuring that I auto-resolved any battle where the AI was using them. Then suddenly it stopped happening and i can only assume that something sorted out the issue in the data files or code.

The other problem I still get but is non-fatal is some weird saved game corruption that causes Artillery and Generals and certain cavalry units to suddenly consist of 160 models. So, for a while I just have these massive units fortunately with artillery its only the number of gunners not the number of guns.

[khanman86]

I am running as the French, VH/VH settings. I kept crashing in the 1730s when US tried to declare war on me. I Managed to Ally with another country and that made us too powerful for the USA to declare war on me. Hitting 1750 and 1/4 th of the world is allied to me, 1/2 allied against me and the US keeps trying to declare war and it keeps crashing. I have tried all polite and threatening approaches. I have tried declaring war on them first. I have gone on a 2 turn slaughter of enemies while keeping as many troops alive as I can. Nothing works. I do not want to be stuck playing as Great Britain forever just to avoid the USA from forming and eventually crashing with a declaration of war.

[HazardHawk]

Holy Cow! Double necro!

Empire and many other old games, if you have happened to notice old games long abandoned suddenly updating again, have received upgraded from sha-1 security encryption. Now, with no legal mods hosted from an approved site and no tools to add the proper security to opened files to close them again, you might get a mod working temporarily, but it will start having problems and fail again come the next security update considering everything is being set to revolving keys regularly updated.

If you dont know, the new system of swapping keys each time you connect/activate a program, is becoming standard and as it is stored inside the TPM, we dont have access to change that with no Assembly Kit

[Steven]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.