Total War: EMPIRE - Definitive Edition

Total War: EMPIRE - Definitive Edition

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Hav0k Oct 8, 2015 @ 1:38pm
Ottoman turn lag
anyone else experiencing this annoying lag when ottamans take there turn? it takes like 20 minutes for there turn and is game destroying, im using darthmod 8.1
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Nugcrusher Oct 8, 2015 @ 2:32pm 
Well known phenom with the Ottomans and has nothing to do with Darthmod (unless with DME the AI recruitment is greatly increased but I can't recall if that is the case). On certain areas of the map, such as the land brindge between Constantinople and Anatolia, the AI can get all screwed up...gathers 30 or 40 unstacked units and will take forever (if ever) to untangle the mess.

Usually after a few turns it might loosen-up and revert to normal...sometimes not. I've quit and started a new campaign because of this, although most of the time I'll wait it out.
Last edited by Nugcrusher; Oct 9, 2015 @ 1:52pm
I was getting 15-20 minutes Ottoman turn duration in my current Darthmod campaign playing as Russia. I was able to fix it by trying something that hasn't been mentioned in all the threads I've read.
Long story short, I just edited one of my last savegames, I removed all funds from the Ottomans (they had over 30,000 cash, no wonder they were spawning units like crazy).
I figured out that if the Ottomans had no cash, they'd be forced to temporarily dismantle a lot of those micro-armies that caused the lag. Turns out I was right, that solved it!
The Ottomans didn't lose all armies, they still had huge armies of bowmen and bow cavalry and, after several turns, their treasury was back to 20,000 cash.
Fortunately, that trick had given me enough time to prepare and send invasion forces to Rumelia and Georgia, so I was able to destroy several major Ottoman armies, getting rid of the lag problem altogether, ^^

Instructions for editing your savegame:

1- Download ESF editor > https://sourceforge.net/projects/esfeditor/

2- Extract it and run it (as administrator)

3- File>Open Savegame (remember that EmpireTW savegames are stored in C:\Users\YOUR_USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Empire\save_games)

4- Once you've opened your selected savegame, navigate to> "save_games\whatever.empire_save\CAMPAIGN_SAVE_GAME\CAMPAIGN_ENV\CAMPAIGN_MODEL\WORLD\FACTION_ARRAY\Ottomans|FACTION_ARRAY\Ottomans|FACTION\FACTION_ECONOMICS"

5- When you select "FACTION_ECONOMICS", you'll see a table on the right side. The first value on the "Value" column is the amount of cash the faction has.
Change that value to whatever number you like, then press enter to apply the change.

6- File>Save-->whatever.empire_save


Next time you load that modified savegame and pass turn, the Ottoman Empire will be forced to dismantle a lot of extra units, you'll notice how the lag goes away.

Hope this also works for you!
bearfieldlee Jan 24, 2017 @ 2:49pm 
I find that alt-ctrl-del out of the game and then back in solves this issue.
Inardesco Jan 25, 2017 @ 9:56am 
Read a book, walk the dogs, talk to your husband/wife/girlfried/boyfriend/imaginary friend, have a shower, do some cooking
Zonicality Dec 31, 2020 @ 12:52am 
Man today I had to wait the entire day for the Ottoman Empire turn to pass the WHOLE DAY
king kenny Dec 31, 2020 @ 2:33am 
i find that sending a ship to the gap between europe and anatolia usually helps.
Dzhanan Dec 31, 2020 @ 5:58am 
Cuz the Darthmod is full of bugs, try playing vanilla u wont get any turn lags...
TH3HOLYJ3BUS Apr 5, 2022 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Dzhanan:
Cuz the Darthmod is full of bugs, try playing vanilla u wont get any turn lags...


Not the case at all, I have gotten the Ottoman turn vanilla.
Dustyn Apr 5, 2022 @ 10:00am 
I have the same issue with darthmod. I was playing a Great Britain campaign and got about 40 turns in then Ottomans started lagging on their turn, then each turn it got longer and longer to the point it broke the game. Darthmod is a broken mod with this extreme long turn time, I hate to say it. I was even getting turn lag with Russia also.
Wolff Apr 6, 2022 @ 9:41am 
Had the same problem until I added the patch to DM. If your read the patch notes, their is a fix for the Ottoman turn bug.
Is there a solution in 2025? A mod maybe? Played the Darth Mod and it also had Ottoman turn bug.
Originally posted by mardaspan:
Is there a solution in 2025? A mod maybe? Played the Darth Mod and it also had Ottoman turn bug.

Yes, there is a solution; but you likely won't like it. Play more aggressively.

I haven't encountered it in at east 6,000 hours pf play because, playing any faction, I eject the Ottomans from Europe before they can build an economy capable of sustaining that many units.
Originally posted by pgeerkens:
Originally posted by mardaspan:
Is there a solution in 2025? A mod maybe? Played the Darth Mod and it also had Ottoman turn bug.

Yes, there is a solution; but you likely won't like it. Play more aggressively.

I haven't encountered it in at east 6,000 hours pf play because, playing any faction, I eject the Ottomans from Europe before they can build an economy capable of sustaining that many units.

Limits the player to play only factions located not too far Ottomans, not the solution I am looking for tbh
Originally posted by mardaspan:
Originally posted by pgeerkens:

Yes, there is a solution; but you likely won't like it. Play more aggressively.

I haven't encountered it in at east 6,000 hours pf play because, playing any faction, I eject the Ottomans from Europe before they can build an economy capable of sustaining that many units.

Limits the player to play only factions located not too far Ottomans, not the solution I am looking for tbh

Even playing as Maratha and Sweden, the Ottoman lag hasn't bothered me in thousands of hours. How much further from Ottomans am I supposed to start?
Originally posted by pgeerkens:
Originally posted by mardaspan:

Limits the player to play only factions located not too far Ottomans, not the solution I am looking for tbh

Even playing as Maratha and Sweden, the Ottoman lag hasn't bothered me in thousands of hours. How much further from Ottomans am I supposed to start?
Played Spain last time, the game was unplayable around the turn 95-100
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