Vanilla vs Darthmod

[carlosbuenros88]

Hi guys, i would like to know your opinion about darthmod. Is it better to play dartmod rather than vanilla?

[Inardesco]

What makes it easier? Militia can beat the crap out of Guard units. If you know what you're doing you can get a 20k+ income by turn 10, which means you can spam armies all you want. Ships blow up a lot quicker, looks great but doesn't really exude realism in my opinion.

AI wise I never saw any difference between vanilla AI and Darthmod AI. It's still rubbish, pathfinding is still rubbish. Probably the reason they said they "improved" the AI was because you can remove the creation of new forts and thus the AI doesn't get screwed over as much by the pathfinding. But it's still stupid in battle.

[LordDave]

Ah i see, im probably going to uninstall it then as i do love realism, thanks for the feedback

[Inardesco]

If you want realism then you shuold take a gander at the Imperial Splendour/Destroyer mod. Or if you have Napoleon TW, for the Napoleon TW 3 mod.

[Smokedice]

The only appeal Darthmod still holds for me are the nice uniforms, smoke and sound effects, and that it removes those broken seige battles.

The fact that you can download uniform, smoke and sounds, and the siege removal mods without Darthmod makes it not worth playing. I had all kinds of gripes with both vanilla and Darthmod, but the reason why I can't tolerate DM is because it made the naval combat not fun to play. Even on very fast speed the ships take too long to get into an engagement.

In response to the people who say iT mAkeS tHe GaME mORe rEaLIstIc DURRR, no it really doesn't. Making the the majority of musket volleys miss at point blank and bogging down the ships like they're sailing through molasses isn't realism, it's exaggeration.

Edit: look up Sir Digby Chicken Caesar or something along the lines of that name, he was a modder for Empire total war and I think you can still find links to some of his uniforms

[Inardesco]

Just found this thread on reddit;

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/f6cjzh/empire_total_war_new_complete_overhaul/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

If anyone is interested.

Havent looked at the mod myself but you know, someone else might pick it up and spread the word

[BRAN MAC BORN]

Well I completely overhauled Darth Mod with Bran DME settings you can get at Total war Center
https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?597036-Bran-Mac-Born-s-DME-Mod-settings

[carlosbuenros88]

thank you all for your opinions!! It really helps

[Grim_Carnage]

darth mod and other mods fix a broken game fort battles are so much enjoyable now that your men can shoot(with accuracy) from the walls also things like shrapnel shot in cannons works well hitting the units and not firing over the heads, the new darth mod has a very easy to navigate menu so if you want to play vanilla you can. highly recommend pick and choosing mods that suit your style of play might need to opt into a beta option in the menu for the game to get some of them working. darth mod works if you opt in mac linux 1_3.

[BIGDOJO]

Try a short compaign of both. I love both anyways so it's hardly any time lost.. Darthmod artillery arcs more and can be fired from behind your troops with less elevation for safety. It also tears up enemy infantry divisions more effectively and at farther range, but the damage done extends to everything, not just infantry. Cannons in darthmod, even demicannons which are now moveable on the battle, are the real lords of war, right from the beginning: they will control a whole battlefield and any army at an artillery disadvantage must now charge you directly or be slowly eliminated from the battlefield at range..

There are so many other differences... Let alone if you increase cannon unit sizes or use a 40-unit-army save.. But I've also encountered instability issues, but the vanilla game is like that too.. What can you do? That's more an Empire problem than a darthmod problem.

There's a certain charm to vanilla after having played so much darthmod.. But to be honest with you I think the battles in Imperial Splendor right now are the real deal. Check out that mod, though its got some jankiness to it, moreso than darth.

[iNsaneMilesy]

Darth mod had much better AI and the ability to stack merchant ships. Its good, but very broken.

[Gibbo]

I did like DM and played it for a long time, but I missed vanilla and I think it's too easy to make money in DM.

If you like lots of units just play as Spain or France in vanilla as they have quite a few.

[Grim_Carnage]

if you guys want some additional units check Pikestances work AUMP mods for darth mod and vanilla, i use them all the time.

[Revy106]

Darthmod is a must for me, makes the game a ton better

[Grim_Carnage]

been playing vanilla mode through darthmod 8.01 overlay using darthmod program window still open, not to sure but i think it works better?

[Devil Doug]

Isn't Darthmod just a cheat mod? One that also against the code of Steam?

Yes it is just a cheat mod, and it does go against the code Steam's posting rules!

So why not ban all of those talking about it, in accordance with actual Steam rules?