My Thoughts So Far

[zjim]

Just bought the game after playing Knight Squad 1 for the last several years with my friends and I have some complaints.

First off, the Mouse and keyboard controls are terrible. Everything feels so floaty that its hard to get your bearings or feel comfortable. This is also aided by the fact that even though you control your direction by mouse movement you wont actually change direction unless you move. Despite having the whole keyboard at your disposal you there only one button for movement, W. So that means you can only go forward, not backwards or side to side, added with the fact that you cant turn unless you're moving makes you feel extremely limited in both movement and control of your character. Basically you have to play on controller or put you self at a disadvantage, which can be off-putting for people trying to play on their computer.

Another complaint is that there;'s no general randomize control. Before when playing with friends we would hope in and just play whatever popped up. This allowed for quick and easy, in and out, fun games where even if you didn't like that mode you just went with it because it would be over soon and you'd move on. Now if you just want to play solo games you have to pick and choose everything, this causes people to over analyse what should just be and simple fun party game and it means you have to take time to stop and pick something and change all the rules. This also means that now you can't just go freely from free for all to team based games. Now its strictly either-or, again which feels limiting and reductive. When you play tourney mode it's set to auto random but again you can only play free for all or teams and you can't move easily from one to the other. The only real random control you have is over weapon set but personally i think all the different sets besides default are gimmicky and don't work well with how the games play out

Locked content is another problem this game has. Want to play different levels then the One immediately offered? Too bad you have to go through them one by one to unlock them. Want to give your Knights different things to hold? Too bad get 1000 kills then come back. All in all many wont this but I fear for the patience of many, because why should you get everything in a game just because you payed full price right? All of this reeks of future DLC pushes.

On a more subjective note I dislike the look of Knight Squad 2. The first game was very bright and used an art style that let you see things clearly and differentiate objects from one another. This game has dark shades and neon colors and nothing in between. Everything is either to dark and dull or two bright to see clearly. the added 3D textures only amplify this effect by adding pointless shadows and black borders to everything that gives the game a terrible muddiness.

The main things I like is that the game is finally online. The only problem that I think the first game had was that it was local only, which was just the most baffling choice from the developers to me. I believe the first one could have been one of the major online party game fixtures from the last decade if it was just online. Here they fixed that and amazingly they've added the ability to invite friends who don't have the game to play for free through Knight Squad Trials

Besides the aforementioned, the game modes that you loved from the original are back, most are as fun as ever, some feel clunky with the new design choices though. The knights you loved are back but many are locked behind objectives or content walls.

I'd like to hear anybody else's opinions on the game and what they think. At the moment. Even with the hundreds of hours I played in the first one I still don't know if this is worth full price and I'd probably say wait till a sale if you want to get it. IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO WANT TO GET IT WITH YOU, definitely look into the Trials functionality as this will help everyone save some cash and allow more people who might not ever be interested in the game to play it.

[Maroliver]

Escrito originalmente por zjim:

Just bought the game after playing Knight Squad 1 for the last several years with my friends and I have some complaints.

First off, the Mouse and keyboard controls are terrible. Everything feels so floaty that its hard to get your bearings or feel comfortable. This is also aided by the fact that even though you control your direction by mouse movement you wont actually change direction unless you move. Despite having the whole keyboard at your disposal you there only one button for movement, W. So that means you can only go forward, not backwards or side to side, added with the fact that you cant turn unless you're moving makes you feel extremely limited in both movement and control of your character. Basically you have to play on controller or put you self at a disadvantage, which can be off-putting for people trying to play on their computer.

Another complaint is that there;'s no general randomize control. Before when playing with friends we would hope in and just play whatever popped up. This allowed for quick and easy, in and out, fun games where even if you didn't like that mode you just went with it because it would be over soon and you'd move on. Now if you just want to play solo games you have to pick and choose everything, this causes people to over analyse what should just be and simple fun party game and it means you have to take time to stop and pick something and change all the rules. This also means that now you can't just go freely from free for all to team based games. Now its strictly either-or, again which feels limiting and reductive. When you play tourney mode it's set to auto random but again you can only play free for all or teams and you can't move easily from one to the other. The only real random control you have is over weapon set but personally i think all the different sets besides default are gimmicky and don't work well with how the games play out

Locked content is another problem this game has. Want to play different levels then the One immediately offered? Too bad you have to go through them one by one to unlock them. Want to give your Knights different things to hold? Too bad get 1000 kills then come back. All in all many wont this but I fear for the patience of many, because why should you get everything in a game just because you payed full price right? All of this reeks of future DLC pushes.

On a more subjective note I dislike the look of Knight Squad 2. The first game was very bright and used an art style that let you see things clearly and differentiate objects from one another. This game has dark shades and neon colors and nothing in between. Everything is either to dark and dull or two bright to see clearly. the added 3D textures only amplify this effect by adding pointless shadows and black borders to everything that gives the game a terrible muddiness.

The main things I like is that the game is finally online. The only problem that I think the first game had was that it was local only, which was just the most baffling choice from the developers to me. I believe the first one could have been one of the major online party game fixtures from the last decade if it was just online. Here they fixed that and amazingly they've added the ability to invite friends who don't have the game to play for free through Knight Squad Trials

Besides the aforementioned, the game modes that you loved from the original are back, most are as fun as ever, some feel clunky with the new design choices though. The knights you loved are back but many are locked behind objectives or content walls.

I'd like to hear anybody else's opinions on the game and what they think. At the moment. Even with the hundreds of hours I played in the first one I still don't know if this is worth full price and I'd probably say wait till a sale if you want to get it. IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO WANT TO GET IT WITH YOU, definitely look into the Trials functionality as this will help everyone save some cash and allow more people who might not ever be interested in the game to play it.

Your entire rant about the game is completely subjective, not just the one paragraph.

1.) The game is meant to be played with a joystick. I couldn't imagine playing this game with mouse and keyboard.

2.) You can still easily join games and leave games. I actually think it's a good thing that they separated team lobbies and solo lobbies. The team games are extremely frustrating if you happen to get a player or two on your team who don't know how to play. It would be really annoying to join a team tourney and get destroyed for 3 rounds because of incompetent teammates. People won't want to play again.

3.) As far as the weapon options go, I play with the default settings like in Knight Squad 1. I don't see the options as "gimmicky" - I think it's great to have some options to be able to change your game up a bit.

4.) The content unlocking system works well in the way that it sort of serves as an unofficial tutorial. If you're having trouble unlocking maps or getting kills, lower the difficulty of the bots. The game is a breeze on easy and medium is becoming easier as well. I'm thinking about switching my bots to hard soon.

5.) I don't see anything wrong with the colors. At first, I didn't think I would like the 3D sprites, but they have grown on me. The game looks good and everything moves fast. I haven't seen any slow frames or lagging.

6.) Knight Squad 1 also had online multiplayer so this point is not factually correct.

7.) If you feel as though the old game modes are now "clunky," you can play the old game modes just like they were in the original game. It's not that difficult to set up to play the game like Knight Squad 1 was played.

8.) Once again, the unlocking system is similar to the original game's unlocking system with a few enhancements. I have already unlocked a handful of knights with minimal effort so it's not too difficult. The way the maps unlock serves as an unofficial tutorial. This prevents people who don't know how to play from going into online games and frustrating other players.

It seems as though you just don't like the game. I think it's worth full price and I have enjoyed my few hours in it so far. I plan on enjoying a few more hours of this game today. Cross-console multiplayer should help people to find more online lobbies as well.

[Maroliver]

Escrito originalmente por Deadsonicmoon:

I personally love the unlock system! It makes you try out new maps and modes that you don't know yet. Any type of reward in this game is a bonus. Plus the game is no where near $60 so if there is dlc then all power to em. I will happily buy whatever comes our way to support the devs. Games like these are few and far between, and I hope personally it does really well.

I agree that it makes you try stuff you might not know or normally try. The devs also said an update might come and they specified update over paid DLC.

[rayden78]

As someone who disliked the first game (only tried the demo), I'm very happy with this entry so far. Gamepad controls are good, so I can't say anything about mouse and keyboard. Graphics are a matter of taste, but do the job well from my point of view. Performance is good. Unlocking stuff always gives the kids a motivation.

There are a ton of configuration options available, which is nice as I plan to play this in couch co-op. Alone the option to set the starting weapon (even an upgraded version of it) will keep us entertained for many hours as it changes the gameplay a lot. A few of the gamemodes seem to be less fun than the others, but that's again a matter of taste and I'm impressed how many there are available.