Another Rebirth question

[M. Havoc]

I'm ready for my first rebirth. I'll get 958 BP OR I can ascend for 5358 AP.

Should I ascend first to get all those AP then do the minimum to Rebirth? Or will that cost me BP if I ascend first?

[blizzcarsten]

5000 AP is way too low for a first Rebirth. Just keep ascending.

[M. Havoc]

I guess the question wasn't clear. I'm GOING to rebirth. I'm 15 purgatory monsters away from The Bog and I'm very tired of manually advancing. The Bog and rebirth will give me access to Shop 4 with auto-advances in it.

So my question is, IF I ascend first, will my BP's drop?

[Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s]

You need millions of AP for it to really start counting, i would rebirth first to get some of those handy perks

Unspent AP, capping at 1500 BP (at around 5.5B AP)

[M. Havoc]

I don't mean unspent AP. I mean if I ascend I'll get 6000 AP, which I would spend, before a rebirth.

I don't really know how better to ask this question so people get what I'm asking. When you ascend, does the number that it says you'll get for BP's drop back down to zero and you have to build them up again? I'm not asking for advice, I just want to know what mechanically happens. I can't find it on the wiki and a google search didn't help. It doesn't look to me like it should drop because of the categories, but that doesn't mean that it won't.

The decision is to rebirth and lose all those AP (which aren't unspent because I don't have them yet), OR ascend, spend the AP, and auto-advance through Mist, then rebirth.

[wux]

You'll lose the BP from fighting progress and potentially some of the misc. points, the points from farming perks, flowers discovered and unspent crops will remain. (- if you ascend, for clarity)

It really depends how quickly you can get back to where you are currently fighting - if you can get back quickly and/or there's something you can get with that AP which would be helpful, then ascend first and keep a few AP for the small bonus BP. If it'll take you a while to get back and there's something really helpful you could get right away with the BP then it might not be worth ascending.

It's easy to overthink it, the first rebirth can seem a bit daunting and deciding when to do it can be a big deal. Ultimately you'll be much further on in a few days either way, and soon be getting AP and BP which dwarf those amounts.

[M. Havoc]

Cool thanks. I already did the ascend and didn't lose much BD, still over 1k. All I really want to get to is the auto-advances.