Idle Skilling

Idle Skilling

gen3king Nov 1, 2022 @ 5:06pm
I Don't Get Investing RP, Crusades, Rifts, or Afterlife
OK so in pet research you can level the passives of pets (btw is that per pet or per type of pets), those help you in the main game, you use pets to breed pets to then use them for treking to get resources to help make research and pet leveling faster. There are avts you can level over time for various bonuses.

OK I get all that.

What does investing RP into these vats do? Is there any reason not to send RP to every vat at all times?

It does not have any notable effect.

"I don't get it big dan."

Also does gear from crusades effects the main fights? Is that how that works?

The afterlife while cool does not appear to effect any other aspect of the game either.

And finally rifts, I get souls to upgrade rifts which, are they passive effects I visit the rift screen to collect or are they more like buffs that effect stuff elsewhere, or is it a mix?

Any help is welcome. Thanks.
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d3n Nov 1, 2022 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by gen3king:
(btw is that per pet or per type of pets)

You level up categories of pets. Leveling bear to level 1 in the pet capsules will give you 10% fight damage at all times, even if the bear isn't in the capsule or if you delete all of your bears. Putting two or three bears into capsules at the same time will make the category level up two or three times faster, but won't make the bonus itself stronger.

Originally posted by gen3king:
What does investing RP into these vats do? Is there any reason not to send RP to every vat at all times?

I think you mean opening a pipe. Investing RP in the case of the first orange tank bonus is specifically when you spend the points stored in a tank. RP gain decreases based on the number of same colored tanks that have pipes open to them and the amount of RP already stored in the tank. If you want to push a specific tank bonus, it's better to only have one open at a time per group of 5. I guess it could be personal preference but I've never had more than one pipe open at a time per color tank set.

Originally posted by gen3king:
Also does gear from crusades effects the main fights? Is that how that works?

Crusade gear functions the same as cards. There is a deck button at the top of tinkering to set up specific area loadouts.

Originally posted by gen3king:
The afterlife while cool does not appear to effect any other aspect of the game either.

Some upgrades from the vending machine affect other areas, specifically the ones that say "outside realm" and the two cans.

Originally posted by gen3king:
And finally rifts, I get souls to upgrade rifts which, are they passive effects I visit the rift screen to collect or are they more like buffs that effect stuff elsewhere, or is it a mix?

They are all passive except for the cash rift's starting bonus which is so awful that you should just ignore it. Cash rift becomes worth upgrading after the 4th orange research tank. You need to visit the rift screen for them to actually level up and give better bonuses after upgrading them.
gen3king Nov 1, 2022 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by d3n:
Originally posted by gen3king:
(btw is that per pet or per type of pets)

You level up categories of pets. Leveling bear to level 1 in the pet capsules will give you 10% fight damage at all times, even if the bear isn't in the capsule or if you delete all of your bears. Putting two or three bears into capsules at the same time will make the category level up two or three times faster, but won't make the bonus itself stronger.

Originally posted by gen3king:
What does investing RP into these vats do? Is there any reason not to send RP to every vat at all times?

I think you mean opening a pipe. Investing RP in the case of the first orange tank bonus is specifically when you spend the points stored in a tank. RP gain decreases based on the number of same colored tanks that have pipes open to them and the amount of RP already stored in the tank. If you want to push a specific tank bonus, it's better to only have one open at a time per group of 5. I guess it could be personal preference but I've never had more than one pipe open at a time per color tank set.

Originally posted by gen3king:
Also does gear from crusades effects the main fights? Is that how that works?

Crusade gear functions the same as cards. There is a deck button at the top of tinkering to set up specific area loadouts.

Originally posted by gen3king:
The afterlife while cool does not appear to effect any other aspect of the game either.

Some upgrades from the vending machine affect other areas, specifically the ones that say "outside realm" and the two cans.

Originally posted by gen3king:
And finally rifts, I get souls to upgrade rifts which, are they passive effects I visit the rift screen to collect or are they more like buffs that effect stuff elsewhere, or is it a mix?

They are all passive except for the cash rift's starting bonus which is so awful that you should just ignore it. Cash rift becomes worth upgrading after the 4th orange research tank. You need to visit the rift screen for them to actually level up and give better bonuses after upgrading them.

Thanks a ton for this info. The only part I am still unclear on is the RP invested value on most vats. Should I save up and invest a ton at once, does it make vats level faster? That I don't understand still.

Thanks!
d3n Nov 1, 2022 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by gen3king:
The only part I am still unclear on is the RP invested value on most vats. Should I save up and invest a ton at once, does it make vats level faster? That I don't understand still.

Thanks!
Investing more RP into a tank bonus doesn't add to the old value, it replaces it, and a higher invested value makes the bonus level up faster. There's value in waiting, but it isn't really worth waiting too long because eventually you'll start earning enough vessels to upgrade way past where you are. You can't really mess up investing as long as you're making incremental RP gains on the tank bonuses you want (until maybe the chain level stuff in the higher tanks if you want to be super optimized but it's absolutely not necessary with realm bonuses now).
gen3king Nov 1, 2022 @ 7:32pm 
Originally posted by d3n:
Originally posted by gen3king:
The only part I am still unclear on is the RP invested value on most vats. Should I save up and invest a ton at once, does it make vats level faster? That I don't understand still.

Thanks!
Investing more RP into a tank bonus doesn't add to the old value, it replaces it, and a higher invested value makes the bonus level up faster. There's value in waiting, but it isn't really worth waiting too long because eventually you'll start earning enough vessels to upgrade way past where you are. You can't really mess up investing as long as you're making incremental RP gains on the tank bonuses you want (until maybe the chain level stuff in the higher tanks if you want to be super optimized but it's absolutely not necessary with realm bonuses now).

Ah dope, thanks a ton!

One final question.

What the hell is the fruit stuff?
SunEarthMewsic Nov 2, 2022 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by gen3king:
What does investing RP into these vats do? Is there any reason not to send RP to every vat at all times?

It does not have any notable effect.

Unlike other skillers, research is a two part thing.
Breed pets -> Trek for vessels -> Invest vessels into vat/tanks

Vats -> Boosts research rate of individual tank bonuses, all tanks, and chain rate
Tanks -> Slowly accumulate RP that you invest back into tank bonuses

The amount of RP you have in a specific bonus increases rate of bonus level up. Each bonus level up levels up research level. Higher research level is needed to ask the other tanks. Look at the individual bonuses to see what they affect.

Originally posted by gen3king:
Also does gear from crusades effects the main fights? Is that how that works?

Yes. There are bonuses like "Total Damage", "Skill Damage", "Fishies cadught".

Fight bosses for materials (Higher level bosses gives more quantities) -> Use materials to craft equipment -> Use low tier equipment to craft high tier equipment -> Use boosters to raise effects on equipment -> Construction gives a final line of stats

Originally posted by gen3king:
The afterlife while cool does not appear to effect any other aspect of the game either.

The vending machine, which you get after beating realm 21 or something, has a bunch of items that affect the realm and everything else

You need minions that generate coins -> to level up minions to generate more coins -> to buy vending machine things

Originally posted by gen3king:
And finally rifts, I get souls to upgrade rifts which, are they passive effects I visit the rift screen to collect or are they more like buffs that effect stuff elsewhere, or is it a mix?

Look at the portal in rifts to see an explanation of what they do. One increases gold earn per minute, another increases damage, ap

Originally posted by gen3king:
What the hell is the fruit stuff?

if you mean AL, look at the bonus. It tells you what it buffs
SunEarthMewsic Nov 2, 2022 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by d3n:
I think you mean opening a pipe. Investing RP in the case of the first orange tank bonus is specifically when you spend the points stored in a tank. RP gain decreases based on the number of same colored tanks that have pipes open to them and the amount of RP already stored in the tank. If you want to push a specific tank bonus, it's better to only have one open at a time per group of 5. I guess it could be personal preference but I've never had more than one pipe open at a time per color tank set.

I'm not going to disagree, but I would personally advise against min-maxing like that. Every tank adds to your overall damage in a direct or indirect way.

At some point, you -will- max out all the tanks, and stressing yourself out by deciding to constantly turn on/off specific tanks is not worth it.

The lab is slow to begin with, and still slow at high levels of RP. It's better overall to just forget it after investing some RP.
Last edited by SunEarthMewsic; Nov 2, 2022 @ 10:46am
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