is it dead?

[DeGreZet]

I mean...

- reddit and Steam forum is absolutelly dead
- 6k people in game when I'm writing it, which is really low for year old f2p game
- searching +20s for games in some queues
-

[Dragon3043]

I get games in 10 seconds or less, Duo or Solo, both ranked. 402 hours in currently. No, it's not dead.

[DeGreZet]

Originally posted by Dragon3043:

I get games in 10 seconds or less, Duo or Solo, both ranked. 402 hours in currently. No, it's not dead.

Just try to search for Standard Casual at 4-10 CEST. Sometimes it's even 1 minute of waiting...

[sexdope]

Originally posted by DeGreZet:

I mean...

- reddit and Steam forum is absolutelly dead
- 6k people in game when I'm writing it, which is really low for year old f2p game
- searching +20s for games in some queues
- :winter2019sadsnowman:

why? in game very mane bots and busters look rate match, is game live like dota 2 and csgo,all games by valve

[DeGreZet]

Originally posted by c3kc:

Originally posted by DeGreZet:

I mean...

- reddit and Steam forum is absolutelly dead
- 6k people in game when I'm writing it, which is really low for year old f2p game
- searching +20s for games in some queues
-

why? in game very mane bots and busters look rate match, is game live like dota 2 and csgo,all games by valve

english?

[sexdope]

Originally posted by DeGreZet:

english? :shenme:

esperanto)

[76561198956271873]

Autochess in Dota2 is much better.

[DeGreZet]

Originally posted by SuperMacanS:

Autochess in Dota2 is much better.

lul

[nana]

you're looking for excuses to quit the game. you're frustrated and yet you care in little ways.
this is how the state of discussion in the "discussion" section of steam store pages work.
with it being a player vs player game, your fun hinges on winning and having fun that way.
sometimes people's perception or expectations of the game don't match what they envision.
it makes total sense, it's very normal especially in today's cycle of games.
it should stop right there, and that person would quit without a word.
it no longer interests you.

and yet there's this thing where people need to go around trying to convince themselves that something is bad before they finally let go or change their mindset around.
steam discussion is evidently for:
- the number of people/players who don't have friends to discuss the game with.
- players who are new or are actually quite bad who won't go through the effort of checking out or sitting in streams or the number of other resources available to improve and reinvigorate their gameplay.
- people who look for other specifically negative or positive comments with which they can piggy off of, parrot,or use in order to feel better about themselves. that part is a kind of social proofing, which leads onto the next category of people;
- ex-players or people who are curiously concerned with the state of the game--how many players its got. if you really think about it--honest to god or honest with yourself--it is completely unnecessary to do this. there are people who care, including me, that there are a lot of people playing my video game. it makes achievements feel more meaningful and keeps interest for longer. but in experience, it truly only matters up until a certain point, which is that your matches are as competitive as you ever want/need.

of course, there are other factors like a sort of snow-ball effect and a large wane in interest versus the people who are still in it to win and have fun. eventually it will affect the quality of the matches and you'll have less fun on average. all these things are obvious, but what's not quite so apparent, is that no matter how much you complain at this level, you will not impact it in a positive way. if you're trying to impact things positively, do so more intelligently, please. anyone can just find any number of things to be salty about.


having played multiple games that are getting called dead in some shape or form since release
(SC2, DotA 2, so on and so forth), "daed game" is a sort of mentality that really makes no sense.
in the first place for how long i've played these games, losing players hasn't impacted my queue times in an extremely noticeable way. from TOP200 i still get queues at a reasonable time at the deadest of times. i'm talking 7-10 years of these games.

if you're gonna quit, just scoop your sh*t up, and f*cking quit.
what is with all this whining, doom and gloom that will never amount to, or change anything?
i will never understand that stuff fully. if it's not for you, it's not for you.

[DeGreZet]

Originally posted by nana:

you're looking for excuses to quit the game. you're frustrated and yet you care in little ways.

I stopped reading ur crappy comment after this. I lov the game and have no intention to quit it, so u missed. I just want it to improve and become less random but more competitive.

[sexdope]

Originally posted by nana:

you're looking for excuses to quit the game. you're frustrated and yet you care in little ways.
this is how the state of discussion in the "discussion" section of steam store pages work.
with it being a player vs player game, your fun hinges on winning and having fun that way.
sometimes people's perception or expectations of the game don't match what they envision.
it makes total sense, it's very normal especially in today's cycle of games.
it should stop right there, and that person would quit without a word.
it no longer interests you.

and yet there's this thing where people need to go around trying to convince themselves that something is bad before they finally let go or change their mindset around.
steam discussion is evidently for:
- the number of people/players who don't have friends to discuss the game with.
- players who are new or are actually quite bad who won't go through the effort of checking out or sitting in streams or the number of other resources available to improve and reinvigorate their gameplay.
- people who look for other specifically negative or positive comments with which they can piggy off of, parrot,or use in order to feel better about themselves. that part is a kind of social proofing, which leads onto the next category of people;
- ex-players or people who are curiously concerned with the state of the game--how many players its got. if you really think about it--honest to god or honest with yourself--it is completely unnecessary to do this. there are people who care, including me, that there are a lot of people playing my video game. it makes achievements feel more meaningful and keeps interest for longer. but in experience, it truly only matters up until a certain point, which is that your matches are as competitive as you ever want/need.

of course, there are other factors like a sort of snow-ball effect and a large wane in interest versus the people who are still in it to win and have fun. eventually it will affect the quality of the matches and you'll have less fun on average. all these things are obvious, but what's not quite so apparent, is that no matter how much you complain at this level, you will not impact it in a positive way. if you're trying to impact things positively, do so more intelligently, please. anyone can just find any number of things to be salty about.


having played multiple games that are getting called dead in some shape or form since release
(SC2, DotA 2, so on and so forth), "daed game" is a sort of mentality that really makes no sense.
in the first place for how long i've played these games, losing players hasn't impacted my queue times in an extremely noticeable way. from TOP200 i still get queues at a reasonable time at the deadest of times. i'm talking 7-10 years of these games.

if you're gonna quit, just scoop your sh*t up, and f*cking quit.
what is with all this whining, doom and gloom that will never amount to, or change anything?
i will never understand that stuff fully. if it's not for you, it's not for you.

when valvede makes one account for one player and hard identification and transferring an account in Steam service it will be possible only once in a lifetime, for example, in a will and then you can’t register more than a single account, then bots and boosters will disappear and stop spoiling the game for normal people and then the shameless valva will not be able to get rid of conversations like right now, the vlva has farms and is moving away from the nogues through these farms that belong to it through third parties; In the industry, it’s impossible to get rid of, because in fact we can even make the number of bots in games and boosters less many times, but this doesn’t because it is interested in the odd business.

this is what I see and I think anyone with the same eye can see the same thing in quiet games, which, due to heaps of bots and sales of accounts of external resources, become of little interest.

[Wutproppen]

Well, you can find games very easily, but it suffers a bit from the same problem as Artifact: you don't get enough free stuff.

Like, if I log in into Legends of Runeterra, I get there a chest of stuff every two games, and every game contributes to a chest I get at the end of the week.

If I log in into Hearthstone, I also get about a pack every second day, if I just do the quests.

In this game, it feels like 99% of the stuff is only for battlepass owners. As I don't have a battlepass, sure, I can do some quests, but what for if the rewards are not for me?

[Robert]

Originally posted by Wutproppen:

Well, you can find games very easily, but it suffers a bit from the same problem as Artifact: you don't get enough free stuff.

Like, if I log in into Legends of Runeterra, I get there a chest of stuff every two games, and every game contributes to a chest I get at the end of the week.

If I log in into Hearthstone, I also get about a pack every second day, if I just do the quests.

In this game, it feels like 99% of the stuff is only for battlepass owners. As I don't have a battlepass, sure, I can do some quests, but what for if the rewards are not for me?

yea in hearthstone you get quests to buy pack. You need packs to build decks to play the game, to follow the meta or not. In underlords, anything that you get from the battlepass is purely cosmetic, it doesn't influence the way a match goes.

[Wutproppen]

Originally posted by Robert:

In underlords, anything that you get from the battlepass is purely cosmetic, it doesn't influence the way a match goes.

That's true. Though I didn't say that one game is better than the other or whatnot. I'm just saying that people are used to getting stuff for free in F2P games, and if a game doesn't offer there a lot, people might feel less inclined to log in.

[Drorian]

these analysis are nonsensical. i play a lot of tft cause it has variety in the way of being able to combine items, even though it gets old quite soon and they reinvented the game from new twice already, but still on the same format.. underlords instead was imho better than tft at start but now is just a mess, adapted for fast games for mobile, I just couldn't play anymore after they destroyed it with the 30 gold max interest thing and the fast game mode. and no, people don't play free to play games to get free things, lol's been the most played pc game for a long time and you basically only get cosmetics with real money.

[Blackdeth]

Originally posted by DeGreZet:

I mean...

- reddit and Steam forum is absolutelly dead
- 6k people in game when I'm writing it, which is really low for year old f2p game
- searching +20s for games in some queues
- :winter2019sadsnowman:

I don't understand. If you can play the game with other people it's not dead...It's alive. If you can't play a game anywhere but a private server then it's dead.

I have a good amount of fun playing this game solo and with friends., I don't care to look at forums much in fact this is the first time I have done so. I was not let down by the doom and gloom negative nancys that infest just about every discussion for every game that exists.