Blight stone utter trash after update?

[Gottschkopf]

Now that it doesn't stack anymore, is there even any reason to pick it? +3 dmg is trash opposed to say 20 dmg from claymore.

[Mailer]

Because -3 Armor does not account to +3 damage.
Armor is based around percentages, and according to the wiki*:

Blight Stone has a duration of 5 seconds.
Results in a damage increase of
15% against units with 0 armor
16% against units with 5 armor
13% against units with 10 armor

* https://dotaunderlords.gamepedia.com/Blight_Stone

Also, this might be a relevant read: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1046930/discussions/0/1642043267246653370/

[BearOwlProwl]

Originally posted by Mailer:

Because -3 Armor does not account to +3 damage.
Armor is based around percentages, and according to the wiki*:

Blight Stone has a duration of 5 seconds.
Results in a damage increase of
15% against units with 0 armor
16% against units with 5 armor
13% against units with 10 armor

* https://dotaunderlords.gamepedia.com/Blight_Stone

Correct me if I’m wrong but even if you had a hero doing 100 damage it would only increase its damage against the opponent by 13 - 15%? So that blight stone would increase damage by 13 or 15 which the claymore does 20?

And that’s only assuming your hero is doing ___ damage and the other hero has____armor. Now keep in mind claymore adding to your damage is more efficient for critical hits.

I agree blight stone is one of the worst things you can get.

What gets me is that Eidilions do more damage and a faster attack rate than most 1* heroes. This game has turned into a running joke.

[Kreuz]

Originally posted by MetalMarioZ:

Originally posted by Mailer:

Because -3 Armor does not account to +3 damage.
Armor is based around percentages, and according to the wiki*:
* https://dotaunderlords.gamepedia.com/Blight_Stone

Correct me if I’m wrong but even if you had a hero doing 100 damage it would only increase its damage against the opponent by 13 - 15%? So that blight stone would increase damage by 13 or 15 which the claymore does 20?

And that’s only assuming your hero is doing ___ damage and the other hero has____armor. Now keep in mind claymore adding to your damage is more efficient for critical hits.

I agree blight stone is one of the worst things you can get.

What gets me is that Eidilions do more damage and a faster attack rate than most 1* heroes. This game has turned into a running joke.

you have to keep in mind:
claymore is an item that affects only one of your units.

blight stone applies a debuff, each of your units attacking the debuffed enemy does extra dmg, not just the one applying the debuff

[BearOwlProwl]

Originally posted by Kreuz:

Originally posted by MetalMarioZ:

Correct me if I’m wrong but even if you had a hero doing 100 damage it would only increase its damage against the opponent by 13 - 15%? So that blight stone would increase damage by 13 or 15 which the claymore does 20?

And that’s only assuming your hero is doing ___ damage and the other hero has____armor. Now keep in mind claymore adding to your damage is more efficient for critical hits.

I agree blight stone is one of the worst things you can get.

What gets me is that Eidilions do more damage and a faster attack rate than most 1* heroes. This game has turned into a running joke.

you have to keep in mind:
claymore is an item that affects only one of your units.

blight stone applies a debuff, each of your units attacking the debuffed enemy does extra dmg, not just the one applying the debuff

Very good point.

[Gottschkopf]

Originally posted by Mailer:

Because -3 Armor does not account to +3 damage.
Armor is based around percentages, and according to the wiki*:

Blight Stone has a duration of 5 seconds.
Results in a damage increase of
15% against units with 0 armor
16% against units with 5 armor
13% against units with 10 armor

* https://dotaunderlords.gamepedia.com/Blight_Stone

Also, this might be a relevant read: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1046930/discussions/0/1642043267246653370/

Ok, that explains a lot. Too bad there's nothing explained in-game and you have no chance at knowing how it works unless you play Dota.

[BearOwlProwl]

Originally posted by Gottschkopf:

Originally posted by Mailer:

Because -3 Armor does not account to +3 damage.
Armor is based around percentages, and according to the wiki*:
* https://dotaunderlords.gamepedia.com/Blight_Stone

Also, this might be a relevant read: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1046930/discussions/0/1642043267246653370/

Ok, that explains a lot. Too bad there's nothing explained in-game and you have no chance at knowing how it works unless you play Dota.

I’ve played over 5,000 hours of Dota and it doesn’t help when they are also changing hero mechanics in Underlords that are different than Dota.

Example: Techies Remote Mines in Underlords does physical damage.

Techies Remote mines in Dota 2 does Magical damage.

Techies Proximity mines in Dota 2 does physical damage.

Pudge’s hook in Underlords does physical damage.

Pudge’s hook in Dota 2 does pure damage.

When you find out your playing the game wrong because they didn’t stick to Dota 2 game mechanics it’s a little irritating.

I was using techies in mags combos before they released what his damage type was in Underlords.

Beta or not, they’re messing up their own games and credibility.

[Hotzenplotz]

Claymore is very good during the early game. Those +20 damage do a lot of work, if you put it on a hero with a high attack rate. Blight stone is terrible in the early game, almost useless. But as the game goes on, blight stone becomes more and more usefull. Stonger heroes apply much more damage and higher tier units often have armor. Clamore is almost irrelevant in the endgame, but blight stone is not bad at all, if you do the math.

As already mentioned, blight stone applies a debuff allowing many units to do more damage. Blight stone is even useful against someone without armor, because negative armor is the best damage modifier you can get. But ... you'll have to do physical damage, or blight stone is utterly useless. If you want to play something like mages, warlocks or demons, don't choose blight stone.