game is nothing but RNG trash!

[B.U.R.T]

you are either lucky or not.

after testing a few matches, losing streak gold does nothing if the other guy is on a 9+ streak because he got some damn good rolls at the start.

wasted 40+ gold re rolling for the one hero to get to 3* and of course it never showed up.

[Tynnyri]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von StatelyPuddle:

This is my (now) second comment to this thread. Look at the names first. Still i dont get whats your problem. Some guy on the internet called you a virgin and now you cry. Like, WTF?

uh oh, ironic that you ask me to check names when nobody called me anything lmao

also sorry for mixing it up

[Drake]

You're right, games like that are for the most of the time rigged, even if this game is legit, RNG level is completely retarded. I can't roll creatures to advance, but opponents have like 4 creatures at lvl 2 at early stage of game ... This is stupid, completelly unskilled BS.

[Viper]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ryu Okami:

If you think it's just RNG then I don't think autochess is for you...

[Tynnyri]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Drake:

You're right, games like that are for the most of the time rigged, even if this game is legit, RNG level is completely retarded. I can't roll creatures to advance, but opponents have like 4 creatures at lvl 2 at early stage of game ... This is stupid, completelly unskilled BS.

well maybe one day you find a game where your own mistakes aren't RNG.

[Drake]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tynnyri:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Drake:

You're right, games like that are for the most of the time rigged, even if this game is legit, RNG level is completely retarded. I can't roll creatures to advance, but opponents have like 4 creatures at lvl 2 at early stage of game ... This is stupid, completelly unskilled BS.

well maybe one day you find a game where your own mistakes aren't RNG.

Yeah genius, because pressing reroll on unit store and finding duplicates is matter of skill ... You're very smart person.

[Tynnyri]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Drake:

Yeah genius, because pressing reroll on unit store and finding duplicates is matter of skill ... You're very smart person.

Hey, maybe you shouldn't roll for something if you never get it. Maybe you should switch strategies and use your brain

But nah, maybe the game is just pure RNG, your mistakes didn't happen and the game needs no skill, even though there is a rank system. But when you won it was because of good choices.

Damn that's toxic

[Drake]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tynnyri:

Hey, maybe you shouldn't roll for something if you never get it. Maybe you should switch strategies and use your brain

But nah, maybe the game is just pure RNG, your mistakes didn't happen and the game needs no skill, even though there is a rank system. But when you won it was because of good choices.

Damn that's toxic

I was trying not rolling tactic also, it doesn't matter, cause there is no strategy in this game, since all players have to roll like crazy to lvl up their units and you can only lvl up your units if you buy duplicates of the same unit in the store, and in order to do that, you have to roll that unit, so yes it's pure RNG.

Game should not have a reroll option, there should be more items and more item slots in units and units should lvl up, by gaining experince in a fights, that would reduce RNG to minimum and would require tactical approach from players of doing the best with what they got. Current gameplay is just like a slot machine, where you numblessly press 1 button and have 0 control over the outcome.

[Tynnyri]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Drake:

I was trying not rolling tactic also, it doesn't matter, cause there is no strategy in this game, since all players have to roll like crazy to lvl up their units and you can only lvl up your units if you buy duplicates of the same unit in the store, and in order to do that, you have to roll that unit, so yes it's pure RNG.

Game should not have a reroll option, there should be more items and more item slots in units and units should lvl up, by gaining experince in a fights, that would reduce RNG to minimum and would require tactical approach from players of doing the best with what they got. Current gameplay is just like a slot machine, where you numblessly press 1 button and have 0 control over the outcome.

Ok. So according to you, whenever you lose in a game, reality changes into a reality where nobody had a strategy and didn't have any choices.

Interesting. Can that reality change back into the one everyone else lives in when, you know, you don't lose a game?

Or is it like if you lose once it means the reality is stuck that way? Because that's a cool power you have.

Imagine going to a run track and when you lose the run to someone else, the reality of the run changes so that runs have always been RNG. That's such a great power you have!

Or maybe you don't have the power to change the reality whenever you lose and every time you lost it was because you weren't good enough. That might be it also.

You may need to see a therapist if the latter isn't true. Usually people don't have delusions in their daily lives about changing reality.

[Kreuz]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Drake:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tynnyri:

Hey, maybe you shouldn't roll for something if you never get it. Maybe you should switch strategies and use your brain

But nah, maybe the game is just pure RNG, your mistakes didn't happen and the game needs no skill, even though there is a rank system. But when you won it was because of good choices.

Damn that's toxic

I was trying not rolling tactic also, it doesn't matter, cause there is no strategy in this game, since all players have to roll like crazy to lvl up their units and you can only lvl up your units if you buy duplicates of the same unit in the store, and in order to do that, you have to roll that unit, so yes it's pure RNG.

Game should not have a reroll option, there should be more items and more item slots in units and units should lvl up, by gaining experince in a fights, that would reduce RNG to minimum and would require tactical approach from players of doing the best with what they got. Current gameplay is just like a slot machine, where you numblessly press 1 button and have 0 control over the outcome.

it really isn't like a slot machine. because at a slot machine, you have exactly two options: throw in money and roll, or leave. you cant strategize; you cant count odds, you only have these two options.

so no, its not a slot machine. its like poker. you are dealt a random hand, you have your ressources which you have to manage to outsustain your enemies who are sitting in the same boat. everyone has to weigh risk vs rewards in terms of lvling up early, rerolling for a 2 star unit or saving up to have a reliable eco and go from there.

if you really feel that this game resembles more a slot machine (pure rng) than poker (rng based game of strategic choices and the possibility to know certain odds) you have to srsly find another game or change your approach.

because if i want to, poker can seem like pure rng to, you know, not knowing odds of cards in play based on what you have and what you see, blindly going all-in all the time, not observing enemy patterns or tells of any kind etc.

it's srsly, just your approach.

[Drake]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kreuz:

it really isn't like a slot machine. because at a slot machine, you have exactly two options: throw in money and roll, or leave. you cant strategice; you cant count odds, you only have these two options.

so no, its not a slot machine. its like poker. you are dealt a random hand, you have your ressources which you have to manage to outsustain your enemies who are sitting in the same boat. everyone has to weigh risk vs rewards in terms of lvling up early, rerolling for a 2 star unit or saving up to have a reliable eco and go from there.

if you really feel that this game resembles more a slot machine (pure rng) than poker (rng based game of strategic choices and the possibility to know certain odds) you have to srsly find another game or change your approach.

because if i want to, poker can seem like pure rng to, you know, not knowing odds of cards in play based on what you have and what you see, blindly going all-in all the time etc.

it's srsly, just your approach.

It's not like poker. Poker is game of skill, and you can fold if RNG is against you in a round and everything starts from bottom in next round, In this game you can't fold and you have to keep playing and your opponents who had better luck with RNG will be even stronger and more unreachable to you.

I tried different approaches, but in every game there are guys who have like 4 lvl 2 units at early stage of game, but I can't upgrade a single one and I noticed that it doesn't matter the eco, if opponents have upgraded units they will always win.

[Tynnyri]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Drake:

It's not like poker. Poker is game of skill, and you can fold if RNG is against you in a round and everything starts from bottom in next round, In this game you can't fold and you have to keep playing and your opponents who had better luck with RNG will be even stronger and more unreachable to you.

I tried different approaches, but in every game there are guys who have like 4 lvl 2 units at early stage of game, but I can't upgrade a single one and I noticed that it doesn't matter the eco, if opponents have upgraded units they will always win.

Early 2 stars lose to tier 3's and well-placed units with Alliance Bonuses. Just because it has stars doesn't mean you have to collect them like crazy early game.

[Kawira]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Drake:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kreuz:

it really isn't like a slot machine. because at a slot machine, you have exactly two options: throw in money and roll, or leave. you cant strategice; you cant count odds, you only have these two options.

so no, its not a slot machine. its like poker. you are dealt a random hand, you have your ressources which you have to manage to outsustain your enemies who are sitting in the same boat. everyone has to weigh risk vs rewards in terms of lvling up early, rerolling for a 2 star unit or saving up to have a reliable eco and go from there.

if you really feel that this game resembles more a slot machine (pure rng) than poker (rng based game of strategic choices and the possibility to know certain odds) you have to srsly find another game or change your approach.

because if i want to, poker can seem like pure rng to, you know, not knowing odds of cards in play based on what you have and what you see, blindly going all-in all the time etc.

it's srsly, just your approach.

It's not like poker. Poker is game of skill, and you can fold if RNG is against you in a round and everything starts from bottom in next round, In this game you can't fold and you have to keep playing and your opponents who had better luck with RNG will be even stronger and more unreachable to you.

I tried different approaches, but in every game there are guys who have like 4 lvl 2 units at early stage of game, but I can't upgrade a single one and I noticed that it doesn't matter the eco, if opponents have upgraded units they will always win.

Dude stop making yourself look like a moron. I consistently keep in top 3 easily, even when my early game is tragic. Does it mean I'm super lucky? I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ doubt it

[Tynnyri]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kawira:

Dude stop making yourself look like a moron. I consistently keep in top 3 easily, even when my early game is tragic. Does it mean I'm super lucky? I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ doubt it

ofc it does you're lucky. He never loses because of his own mistakes lmao

[Tapak]

[/quote]
It's not like poker. Poker is game of skill, and you can fold if RNG is against you in a round and everything starts from bottom in next round, In this game you can't fold and you have to keep playing and your opponents who had better luck with RNG will be even stronger and more unreachable to you.

I tried different approaches, but in every game there are guys who have like 4 lvl 2 units at early stage of game, but I can't upgrade a single one and I noticed that it doesn't matter the eco, if opponents have upgraded units they will always win. [/quote]

Cause when you have 99% chance to win so you all in cause you can literally read which cards does he have and you know you should beat him and the opponent gets a better card on the river, he has won by raw skill yeah sure

[StatelyPuddle]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Master of Shadows:

It's not like poker. Poker is game of skill, and you can fold if RNG is against you in a round and everything starts from bottom in next round, In this game you can't fold and you have to keep playing and your opponents who had better luck with RNG will be even stronger and more unreachable to you.

I tried different approaches, but in every game there are guys who have like 4 lvl 2 units at early stage of game, but I can't upgrade a single one and I noticed that it doesn't matter the eco, if opponents have upgraded units they will always win. [/quote]

Cause when you have 99% chance to win so you all in cause you can literally read which cards does he have and you know you should beat him and the opponent gets a better card on the river, he has won by raw skill yeah sure [/quote]

In my experience, you can get into the top 3-4 even with terrible RNG. After that, its really just about RNG. Will you get your 3 star ranger, will the stupid % evade proc, will your mage burst donw a full hp kunka or a 50% hp summoned tree?

The worst thing is in early game, there are always the 2 guys who have 4 knight bonus by round 5 or 2 druid+something to carry them out into the top 3 without they need to spend a a dime. I am in Liutenant 1 rank and at this point i think i can see the problems with the game, and despite it is fun, there are horrible oversights and balance problems. The items can f**k you up too. After the players are roughly at an equal skill level, the game becomes an RNG fest, and you can do almost nothing about it.

Off: I tried out this LOL TFT game as well, it seems even worse in some aspects, and the graphics and overall design is just horrible, it makes my eyes bleed. The only "tactics" in there is to lvl up 1 or 2 of you heroes to lvl3 and you won until very late-game.