Overheating GPU

[LeTreacs]

Hi all, I have a troubling issue with Farthest Frontier in that it cooks my GPU to thew point that I get the black screen and have to restart my computer.

I had the same issue on a few other GPU intensive games so I installed another fan in the case and made a few other tweaks like lowering the graphics settings to take some of the load off and that has fixed the issue for everything else except for Farthest Frontier, and it's really stopping me from playing as at any moment all progress can be lost.

Is anyone else experiencing anything like this? is there something I can do to reduce the pressure on the GPU further?

[ungamer]

looks like your graphics card is overheating by itself, how often do you clean it from dust and renew thermal paste on gpu and thermal pads on vrm and VRAM ?
also you can undervolt it in msi afterburner to lower power consumption and chill graphics card a bit
btw with my old cpu and 091 version my 3070ti was loaded on 20-40% mostly , but with my new cpu it is loaded up to 100% now ))) not sure if it affects gameplay lol
(ofc there is huge % fps increase but sill uncomfortable numbers on high pop, waiting for 1.0 version with huge optimization)

[Ghostrider]

A lot of games will often work the GPU, but as above check to see if the GPU's heatsink and fans are covered in dust. And if the case does not have enough ventilation, as not having enough ventilation and dust can cook a GPU.

[Blackcobra™®]

Yep i have the same, after my Village go up to T4 my game start lagging and crashing. sometime i got a complete crash and my pc are frozen. only way is shut down the Pc. it only happen on Farthest Frontier so i thinks its a performence bug by the game itself or my pc just to bad, but other games go whitout problem so.. i stop playing this game because this problme at 2023, now it try a new map (2weeks ago) and it starts again. ( Cleand my hole PC from dust and deletet all files only farthest frontier and steam was on my PC so it was clear. but it happen again)

[Zephyr]

Such things should not happen because of games. Your GPU has a thermal limit, and a limit how much power it can draw. It seems to me that your GPUs power limit exceeds its capability to dissipate the heat or that your case does not allow for good airflow. Possibly it is both. What GPU do you have?

Then, of course, it is also a question of how clean your case is and the GPU (full of dust would be bad) and how old the GPU is. Thermal paste can degrade over time and then would need to be replaced (not so easy for beginners).

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by Blackcobra™®:

Yep i have the same, after my Village go up to T4 my game start lagging and crashing. sometime i got a complete crash and my pc are frozen. only way is shut down the Pc. it only happen on Farthest Frontier so i thinks its a performence bug by the game itself or my pc just to bad, but other games go whitout problem so.. i stop playing this game because this problme at 2023, not it try a new map (2weeks ago) and it starts again. ( Cleand my hole PC from dust and deletet all files only farthest frontier and steam was on my PC so it was clear. but it happen again)

If the GPU itself has a problem then cleaning will not help. Again such things cannot just happen because of some "performance bug". A game cannot make your GPU or CPU draw more power than it is allowed to. Please, what GPU do you have?

As an easy fix: Check how much power the GPU draws while playing, then limit the power draw with tools. MSI afterburner can do this with Nvidia GPUs quite handily. If it is an AMD GPU then there are also easy fixes that should work (powerlimit among them). We just need to know a little more :).

A screenshot from the game with an overlay would be nice, while the issue is happening.

Something like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3149477135

Here you can see frequency, power draw, voltage and hot spot temperature of my GPU in the top line.

[LeTreacs]

Originally posted by Zephyr:

Such things should not happen because of games. Your GPU has a thermal limit, and a limit how much power it can draw. It seems to me that your GPUs power limit exceeds its capability to dissipate the heat or that your case does not allow for good airflow. Possibly it is both. What GPU do you have?

Then, of course, it is also a question of how clean your case is and the GPU (full of dust would be bad) and how old the GPU is. Thermal paste can degrade over time and then would need to be replaced (not so easy for beginners).

I've got a RTX 3060 Ti running and i did a deep clean of all components when I installed the new fan two weeks ago.

I built in in December 2020, so I don't know if that's long enough for the thermal paste to degrade or not. I assume the airflow is good, I have an appropriate amount of fans and plenty of room for the air to move within the case. I'm not sure how I would improve further...

[LeTreacs]

Quick update, I ran the game with MSI Afterburner, and the GPU temp didn't go above 84°C and yet I still got the pure black screen after only a few minutes (the auto save interval is set to 5 mins because of this issue and that hadn't triggered before the black screen).

This suggests it's not caused by an overheating GPU... I'll check the cpu temps and see what happens.

[ungamer]

Originally posted by LeTreacs:

Quick update, I ran the game with MSI Afterburner, and the GPU temp didn't go above 84°C and yet I still got the pure black screen after only a few minutes (the auto save interval is set to 5 mins because of this issue and that hadn't triggered before the black screen).

This suggests it's not caused by an overheating GPU... I'll check the cpu temps and see what happens.

man... 84 on gpu = ~100 on hot spot , for 3060ti it is not normal.
if you didnt change thermal paste and pads for 4 years ... it is time now for sure
what is your cpu and power supply watts amount?
check also power draw for cpu and gpu and look if power supply can deal with those amounts
ps. but my experience tells that it is hardware overheating/not enough power problem

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by LeTreacs:

Quick update, I ran the game with MSI Afterburner, and the GPU temp didn't go above 84°C and yet I still got the pure black screen after only a few minutes (the auto save interval is set to 5 mins because of this issue and that hadn't triggered before the black screen).

This suggests it's not caused by an overheating GPU... I'll check the cpu temps and see what happens.

Like said above 84 °C GPU temperature could indicate a hotspot equal to/above 100 °C. At the very least it would be in the mid-high 90ish °C range which would still be sort of ok, but also not good.

You might be able to check this with HWinfo64. MSI afterburner can usually also display the hotspot temps as GPU temperature 2. When I had still a RTX 3070 it never went above 70 °C with my settings and 80-82 °C hotspot in this game.

Something clearly is not right there.

[LeTreacs]

Originally posted by ungamer:

Originally posted by LeTreacs:

Quick update, I ran the game with MSI Afterburner, and the GPU temp didn't go above 84°C and yet I still got the pure black screen after only a few minutes (the auto save interval is set to 5 mins because of this issue and that hadn't triggered before the black screen).

This suggests it's not caused by an overheating GPU... I'll check the cpu temps and see what happens.

man... 84 on gpu = ~100 on hot spot , for 3060ti it is not normal.
if you didnt change thermal paste and pads for 4 years ... it is time now for sure
what is your cpu and power supply watts amount?
check also power draw for cpu and gpu and look if power supply can deal with those amounts
ps. but my experience tells that it is hardware overheating/not enough power problem

Thanks for the response, I'll replace the thermal paste and test and will come back with news!

I've got an AMD Ryzen 5 2600X and a 650w power supply. the CPU was hovering around 50°C at about 30% during testing so I'll take your advice on the paste/pads.

I don't know a lot about these things, so i really appreciate all replies and the help that's been given.

[kcpknight]

A lot of computers will shut down if the temps exceed 85 C to protect the computer hardware. If you installed a new fan and things ran fine before but now they are not I would be looking at the fan.

[ungamer]

Originally posted by LeTreacs:

I don't know a lot about these things, so i really appreciate all replies and the help that's been given.

no problem , but with thermal paste dont forget to replace thermal PADS for video memory, it is also very important, be carefull with thickness, there are different thickness for different video card ) hopefuly there could be some info in internet

[ungamer]

Originally posted by kcpknight:

A lot of computers will shut down if the temps exceed 85 C to protect the computer hardware. If you installed a new fan and things ran fine before but now they are not I would be looking at the fan.

i'm sure it is not fan. if there were no any maintenance for 4 yeras - thermal paste is totally dry, so that's why there are so high temps

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by LeTreacs:

Originally posted by ungamer:

man... 84 on gpu = ~100 on hot spot , for 3060ti it is not normal.
if you didnt change thermal paste and pads for 4 years ... it is time now for sure
what is your cpu and power supply watts amount?
check also power draw for cpu and gpu and look if power supply can deal with those amounts
ps. but my experience tells that it is hardware overheating/not enough power problem

Thanks for the response, I'll replace the thermal paste and test and will come back with news!

I've got an AMD Ryzen 5 2600X and a 650w power supply. the CPU was hovering around 50°C at about 30% during testing so I'll take your advice on the paste/pads.

I don't know a lot about these things, so i really appreciate all replies and the help that's been given.

Just be sure you know what you are doing. This works quite a bit differently than just replacing thermal paste on a CPU. If you are unsure, maybe you can get it to a repair shop to check it out. You can really relatively easy kill/damage a GPU when you open it up and start replacing the pads and paste. The paste must cover the complete GPU chip for example and the pads need the right thickness. Later when you reassemble the spacing and pressure must be even and it must be the correct amount. If anything of this does not work out correctly the GPU will not perform well or it will even die.

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by ungamer:

Originally posted by kcpknight:

A lot of computers will shut down if the temps exceed 85 C to protect the computer hardware. If you installed a new fan and things ran fine before but now they are not I would be looking at the fan.

i'm sure it is not fan. if there were no any maintenance for 4 yeras - thermal paste is totally dry, so that's why there are so high temps

Also depends on quality and how often the system runs a little. On CPUs and GPUs good quality paste might last up to 6 years I think if it is not running 24/7. The longest I had a GPU was 4 years and it was still running with stock stuff without issues at least. Probably a case to case thingy.