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General discussion of the game. Original title: "Hard mode worth it?"
Does anyone know if Hard mode gives you anything extra? Apparently there's a 50% yen increase as battle rewards? Doesn't seem like it's worth the grind though, the scaling of this game isn't well designed to begin with.

While I'm at it. For the 5 NX Digimon, if I "absorb" them, can I somehow get them back? My hunch is no. I've put them as builders in the farm for the time being.
Última edición por Chaos 混沌 カオス; 15 MAR a las 10:22 a. m.
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Blk_Mage_Ctype 8 MAR a las 8:40 a. m. 
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I grew up playing games in an era in which Hard Mode meant more enemies with faster movement speed, which made the game more exciting/challenging to play as opposed to more tedious to play.
WHat games/era was that?

Arcade style games in the early 90s, mostly.
itzRiceKrispies 8 MAR a las 12:41 p. m. 
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Is there a lore or whatever reason Durandamon has a passive that boosts light and dark skills? You'd think that's more appropriate for Lucemon FM or something (Mastemon has a better version of that skill).

I looked it up and he's an ancient weapon digimon (along with a shield one that didn't make it into the game), but nothing strikes me as "light and dark" themed.
None that I can find. I looked into real world history about Durandal and Roland and couldn't find anything. Durandal basically means "Hard Steel", but it is argued that it means "Steel which dulls over time" or something like that. There are some etymological arguments that say Durandal might not be a French word.

Also, I am unfamiliar with that part of Digimon's story, or whatever game(s) he is from.
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Is there a lore or whatever reason Durandamon has a passive that boosts light and dark skills? You'd think that's more appropriate for Lucemon FM or something (Mastemon has a better version of that skill).

I looked it up and he's an ancient weapon digimon (along with a shield one that didn't make it into the game), but nothing strikes me as "light and dark" themed.
None that I can find. I looked into real world history about Durandal and Roland and couldn't find anything. Durandal basically means "Hard Steel", but it is argued that it means "Steel which dulls over time" or something like that. There are some etymological arguments that say Durandal might not be a French word.

Also, I am unfamiliar with that part of Digimon's story, or whatever game(s) he is from.
The only connection I could maybe come up with is that Durandal is a righteous weapon almost at the level of Excalibur and deserving of a "light element" in many other video games it appears in.

Dark? Who knows.
So I guess I'll list my team right now.

1.Mastemon
2.Lucemon FM

Those are the staples, I like their themes, and I'm not changing them. Mastemon is actually very good against bulky teams when the other 2 are setting up and she gets to use Chaos Degrade immediately.

3.Lucemon SM
4.Shinegreymon BM

The strongest non-piercers in the game. They're permanent members too.

5.Dukemon CM
6.Rosemon BM

The piercers. Rosemon BM has no glaring weakness along with an auto-heal. Dukemon CM has probably one of the best well-rounded passive skills in the game.

Imo, Ouryuumon and Alphamon Ouryuuken aren't as good by comparison, I was forced to choose one, though I could be wrong.

7.Sakuyamon
8.Seraphimon
9.Dianamon

Sakuyamon has the potent ability to remove buffs, and also an INT+15%. Seraphimon is probably the strongest 'mon with a Light+15%, which over half of my team turned out to use. Dianamon is pretty similar with Water+Light+10%, with a 50% of inducing sleep, which works in a pinch.

These can be replaced, of course.

10.Susanoumon

It's either him, or one of the Omegamons, or one of the Chaosmons. I wanted another duality themed one like the first two at the top of my list. I picked Susanou mainly because the other 4 kind of disqualify themselves. Chaosmon turns the team into too glass-cannony that imo it isn't worth it, you have to build the whole team around that. The two Omegamons would be good except that in this game, mixed physical/special just isn't viable, which was what they were designed to be.

While Susanoumon was sort of designed to be mixed too, he's very obviously leaning more into the physical side half. His passive, once again, boosts light damage as well.

11.Examon

He's new to my team, but he seems pretty cool. And seems to fit a very aggressive playstyle, I'll try him out and see if he's a permanent member.

I used to have MarineAngemon, and while she is good, with the best healing skill in the game, she ultimately didn't fit my style because support just isn't as valuable over offensive in a pve game. Barring some postgame content, but I could adjust my moveset for specific encounters.

There's also Imperialdramon DM/FM/PM. They're all pretty good, but I actually feel PM is somewhat worse than his two lower forms, he doesn't hit as hard as FM, and DM is much better support because his skill hits all instead of one. And also, his passive skill is clearly the worst of all 3.

I'll leave it at that for now, there's probably a few others I wanna talk about whenever it comes to mind.
Holy crap, encountered 5 Platinumnumemon's in Abyss 18F.
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Holy crap, encountered 5 Platinumnumemon's in Abyss 18F.
turned off high security at the same area. COuldn't find it again, Idk why, but it might be a very rare encounter, I just got real lucky.

Idk why I forgot to screenshot it. It's one of the those donut-shaped blue-greenish cyber-looking areas, pretty straightforward. Anyone know where that is?

Btw, my team comp has changed since, took out Sakuya, Seraphi, Diana, and RoseBM. For Omega, OmegaZwart, AlphaOuryuu, and ImperialPM. It probably is a nerf if you look at it from an objective team comp analysis perspective, but man, the "status symbol" of these mons are something else.
Chaos 混沌 カオス 14 MAR a las 11:52 p. m. 
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Because penetrating moves aren't effective in PvP due to Memetan Replica (anyone who knows what they're doing in PvP is using it).
There's only 1 of those, to be fair. And many mons with 1 target penetrating moves do get used in pvp as well, so I'm not convinced that that's the only reason why Arcadia is sub-optimal, or if it's even the main reason.
Played a bit of online myself, did some digging, and here's what I found out.

-Arcadiamon isn't exactly speedy.
-Light Vaccines are like, half of the top strongest 'mons in the game.
-25 memory, which should be an indicator of power in pve. But in online, it means it's competing with Dukemon CM, Susanoumon, Lucemon SM, two Omegamons, Alphamon Ouryuuken, etc.

That make more sense than "because Memetan replica exists".

While we're at it, let's look at some others:

Belphemon Rage Mode has largely the same problems. And his passive is awkward.

Beezelmon BM. Same problems, but at least he's faster, and has a pretty good passive. Don't know if that warrants a use as I haven't tried him.

I'm on and off about Examon. He's cool and fits a very aggressive playstyle. On the other hand, he's not the hardest hitter himself, and he's decidedly less valuable in pve. Dunno if keep or drop.

Duftmon LM. Why does he have 25 memory? Similar passive to Examon, except more emphasis on speed. Haven't tried him so Idk if worth it.

Imperialdramon Paladin Mode is worse than his two lower forms because of his passive, which is only defensive, and it competes with Varoduru. On top of the 25 mem. At least his two lower forms has only 20 mem, and passives that fit more with a conventional playstyle (DM if you want INT, FM if you want ATK). It's too bad he's so underwhelming, dat sword.

Omegamon and Omegamon Zwart. Since each of their passives only affect one of their 2 moves, I made white Omega atk-based, and black Omega int-based. They're meant to be mixed but mixed just isn't viable in this game. This in turn, means that Zwart is better most of the time, but the problem is, an INT white Omegamon is purely a poorman's black Omegamon. So I dunno.

Chaosmon, on the other hand, is much harder to accommodate. Their first move can do between 1 and 1 billion damage, but that's practically unusable, even if it has a cool name. Chaosmon Dark has an INT-pen. move, but like, the worst INT in the game. Chaosmon VA has a stat nullifier. Except Sakuyamon exists. Their main problem is their passive skill, which I feel is too high risk for the reward to be worth it. I can maybe think of a pure speed team, with teammates like Duftmon LM above, with ABI points put in speed instead of attack, and gets you to fire quick strong attacks, but I wouldn't know how viable that strat is.

Speaking of, I think I understand why Sakuyamon is considered to lowkey be the best Digimon in this game for pvp. She single-handily discourages a boosting 'Charge Field' meta. I wouldn't be too surprised if she's nerfed in TS, though obviously I hope not. Her passive also complements Lucemon SM. Her, Seraphimon, Dukemon CM, Susanoumon, are some of LucemonSM's ideal teammates.

Shinegreymon BM has, in theory, higher damage than Lucemon SM, but much weaker magic defense. And I don't know if he has as good teammates as Lucemon does. Wargreymon? Blackwargreymon?

Armagemon? I never gave it a chance cuz it's ugly and I was conditioned to believe Hyper Beam is bad.

Not a fan of Apocalymon either, but he's seen, so he must be good in some way or another. It's just the idea of forcing myself into a neutral damage build doesn't vibe with me.

Is there a reason why Ouryuumon might be considered better than Alphamon Ouryuuken? Is it merely the memory cost with the higher crit rate just enough to tip it over? The idea of accepting that there just are lower forms of mons that are better than higher forms also doesn't vibe with me well. But them's the breaks.

Would love a few other opinions.
Mythily 15 MAR a las 1:05 a. m. 
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That make more sense than "because Memetan replica exists".
That's exactly why you shouldn't use any piercing digimon in PvP. You'd really think people don't have multiple dupes of that item? Yea, they do. Enough to cover entire teams.
Though by now I don't even know how active PvP is. It might be dead now.
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That make more sense than "because Memetan replica exists".
That's exactly why you shouldn't use any piercing digimon in PvP. You'd really think people don't have multiple dupes of that item? Yea, they do. Enough to cover entire teams.
Though by now I don't even know how active PvP is. It might be dead now.
How would they even get it? Do you actually get one every time you beat the game? Even in the same save file?
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*StonedKills*Goblin 15 MAR a las 9:17 a. m. 
Hard mode is boring and pointless in this game dont do it save yourself the trouble and hate
Chaos 混沌 カオス 15 MAR a las 10:22 a. m. 
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Hard mode is boring and pointless in this game dont do it save yourself the trouble and hate
Figured I'd edit the topic title. We're way past that point of the discussion.
Mythily 15 MAR a las 10:34 a. m. 
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How would they even get it? Do you actually get one every time you beat the game? Even in the same save file?
Yes, multiple NG+ cycles will do it. Though some people won't do the effort and just cheat/dupe it.
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Chaos 混沌 カオス 15 MAR a las 11:20 a. m. 
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How would they even get it? Do you actually get one every time you beat the game? Even in the same save file?
Yes, multiple NG+ cycles will do it. Though some people won't do the effort and just cheat/dupe it.
Really. Because that's not what I heard, I've always heard "you can only get this once, and multiple ng+ will not get you the item again, so don't sell it"

Which means I'm not selling Arata's 800k manga either.

Granted, I've never verified for myself, so I don't know. But if you're correct, then it changes the landscape. The only question then becomes whether or not I equip that or Master status effect for 'mons with only 1 slot.
Mythily 15 MAR a las 11:25 a. m. 
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Granted, I've never verified for myself, so I don't know. But if you're correct, then it changes the landscape. The only question then becomes whether or not I equip that or Master status effect for 'mons with only 1 slot.
What I recommend doing if you're going to play PvP is see what players are using right now. It's likely different from 3 years ago when it was still rather active.
Back then, piercers were nonexistent and the most used combo's relied on boosting 1 or 2 elements through support skills. Also unlike in PvE acceleration boost isn't that great because it gives the other player 1 turn to counter it.
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Shinegreymon BM has, in theory, higher damage than Lucemon SM, but much weaker magic defense. And I don't know if he has as good teammates as Lucemon does. Wargreymon? Blackwargreymon?
Oh right, Megidramon.
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