EARTH DEFENSE FORCE: IRON RAIN

EARTH DEFENSE FORCE: IRON RAIN

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slingshot5 Sep 6, 2020 @ 1:08pm
Is Iron Rain really that bad?
It looks cool but I noticed its got microtransactions n ♥♥♥♥. Is it good?
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Carnatux Sep 6, 2020 @ 3:29pm 
micro trans are just cosmetic for the most part, people hate on it because it is a vastly differnt type of edf game it isn't what people are use to. It does sacrifice enemy numbers with looking good. I love being able to customize my guy and i don't mind not having to pray to rng for weapons i want since they have set mission unlocks.

Mission count is slightly lacking from your average edf also (again likly spent more time making it look nice)
90% of guns are either gimmicky or completely unusable. And half of them you can realize that if you read every fine detail on the description of a gun.

For instance, the easy one to spot is a rocket launcher that does 7777 damage but has "Accuracy: Z" which literally shoots in any direction.

A less easy to spot one is a really powerful looking shotgun, all the straight up stats look fine.
But it does 0 damage if you shoot enemies directly with it... You have to shoot the GROUND for it to EXPLODE in a tiny radius to deal damage.

Chain guns have no rating on how much you can move or aim with them while revving. "Improved performance" is still absolutely unusable, so thats an entire class of weapon completely worthless.

All swords can be used like 1-5 times before RELOADING THEM for 3 seconds save for one that Ive found so far.

I already quit this game way back because of how unplayable the game was but my nephew wanted to play another EDF game and I've milked edf 5 for all its worth so I'm back on this.

The biggest problem is the level design. Difficulty is all over the place and you can literally never tell how hard a mission will be. They range in difficulty from start to finish too. The first level is harder than some of the later levels I've played. Somewhere in the 15-20s there's one with so many ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ robots you cant ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ move. And the hit stumble in this game will happen from almost ANYTHING. which is complete garbage because so many guns require build up, charge, something. And you lose ALL of the progress on that if something too big steps too close to you.

So many levels I've just been stun locked to death from like 10 seconds into the mission. EVerything instantly aggros onto you and you get bum rushed from the first second.

That being said now that I've passed some of the early game ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ missions i've had some moments of enjoyment on the more tame ones. There's literally a difficulty wall to get past early game until you find some slightly more usable weapons that are still 100% gimmicks. like my 60 second reload laser cannon. At least it's usable. I can charge it to shoot more bombs or just tap it to obliterate in a single AoE in front of me. I use that and a 20 ammo 0.5 second reload sword to deal with the dog piling.

Too bad there's so few USABLE NORMAL guns in this game. And using normal guns is so insanely weak you cant get by on using "shotgun" or "machine gun" you have to use like these stupid lasers machine guns that build up over time but if enemies get too close to you you hurt yourself and stumble for 1 entire second each shot, that deals no damage because you have to shoot for like 4 seconds before it starts doing good damage.

Although there being so many wacky guns that it does start to feel a little interesting picking which weapons of mass destruction you want to take into a mission and pulling off a 60 enemy nuke is quite fun. Too bad the entire rest of the game reeks of untested literal garbage.

I cant say the game is no fun, but my lord its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ chore to play alot of the time. Take that with a slight grain of salt because I'm also playing with my nephew who will throw most missions and never pick up any resources to buy weapons with so I have to both kill everything and pick everything up with half of a screen.

EDIT: On stumbling. I had the displeasure of being caught on fire and literally being stumbled the E N T I R E duration of the fire. It's so bad that you're supposed use a healing device but the like... 0.6 second animation of using it gets interrupted and you just have to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sit there and die while everything eats you and you play your stupid stumble animation
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SonicsLV Oct 4, 2020 @ 6:13am 
No. I actually like this game despite all the shortcomings that you probably already read elsewhere.

You just can't assume this game to be EDF4.1 / 5 with better graphics. Treat this as a spin-off where they trying new mechanics while retaining the theme of soldiers fighting giant bugs with ridiculous weapons. I played this game in split screen and its actually really fun. The shorter missions also works better IMO since sometimes in main EDF games you just get bored fighting mulitple waves on enemy hordes. In Iron Rain, the shorter mission means you finish it before it feels like a chore and you see what new weapon you unlock and can do next mission trying new weapon. If you want typical horde missions, there are few of them too.

Story and voice acting is top notch, which means it's the usual EDF B-movie script and dub. Just think this is the difference between how EDF US branch operates comapared to EDF Japan branch.
decizion Oct 5, 2020 @ 8:59am 
So far i like the game (only played for about 6 hours).
I'm not a die hard EDF fanboy so i probably can appreciate the game more for what it is.
A fun game, i easily recommend it on sale at -70%. :EDF_Insignia::EDF_Trooper:
S C Zorg Oct 5, 2020 @ 11:23am 
I am probably an EDF fan boy. I think it is the worst of the series along with EDF IA. Having said that i am still enjoying it a lot. This is definitely not a game you would buy as a full price offering. As said above the guns are atrocious. You but a better class of weapon only to find the early versions are better.
Calling EDF makes you think it is as good as 4.1 which it is not. Still good fun.
First EDF game I played 2017 about 14 years ago. Played everyone since then.
Last edited by S C Zorg; Oct 5, 2020 @ 11:24am
Originally posted by Carnatux:
micro trans are just cosmetic for the most part, people hate on it because it is a vastly differnt type of edf game it isn't what people are use to. It does sacrifice enemy numbers with looking good. I love being able to customize my guy and i don't mind not having to pray to rng for weapons i want since they have set mission unlocks.

Mission count is slightly lacking from your average edf also (again likly spent more time making it look nice)

on top of that the AI doesnt help because the devs wont get off their asses and fix it
slingshot5 Jan 4, 2021 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by GG Mad Scientist:
Originally posted by Carnatux:
micro trans are just cosmetic for the most part, people hate on it because it is a vastly differnt type of edf game it isn't what people are use to. It does sacrifice enemy numbers with looking good. I love being able to customize my guy and i don't mind not having to pray to rng for weapons i want since they have set mission unlocks.

Mission count is slightly lacking from your average edf also (again likly spent more time making it look nice)

on top of that the AI doesnt help because the devs wont get off their asses and fix it
They're working on EDF 6, They already showed gameplay for it
Last edited by slingshot5; Jan 4, 2021 @ 12:58pm
Originally posted by slingshot5:
Originally posted by GG Mad Scientist:

on top of that the AI doesnt help because the devs wont get off their asses and fix it
They're working on EDF 6, They already showed gameplay for it

I mean the AI units who are supposed to be joining you in every mission, the "team" you are on in Iron rain litterally aim in random directions and shoot, they almost never move, they never aim towards the enemy and almost never draw the enemy agro unless you are far away from them and the enemy who would most likely be right ontop of them
Elias Auxilibus Jan 5, 2021 @ 1:16am 
EDF6 should be pretty decent as long as it's not the same folks that worked on Iron Rain, or if it is, that they actually started to care about things other than DLC/microtransaction stuff (like sure, fix not being able to view the bunny costume DLC, but don't touch the broken AI or any of the other issues).
slingshot5 Jan 5, 2021 @ 6:09pm 
Originally posted by Elias Auxilibus:
EDF6 should be pretty decent as long as it's not the same folks that worked on Iron Rain, or if it is, that they actually started to care about things other than DLC/microtransaction stuff (like sure, fix not being able to view the bunny costume DLC, but don't touch the broken AI or any of the other issues).
They showed gameplay, it plays like EDF5 and 4.1
Originally posted by slingshot5:
Originally posted by Elias Auxilibus:
EDF6 should be pretty decent as long as it's not the same folks that worked on Iron Rain, or if it is, that they actually started to care about things other than DLC/microtransaction stuff (like sure, fix not being able to view the bunny costume DLC, but don't touch the broken AI or any of the other issues).
They showed gameplay, it plays like EDF5 and 4.1

but has better graphics than them, im quite excited for it that the people there didnt make the mistake the people who made this game did so far with how it looks, hopefully the game itself isnt gonna be like this as well
slingshot5 Jan 6, 2021 @ 4:39am 
Originally posted by GG Mad Scientist:
Originally posted by slingshot5:
They showed gameplay, it plays like EDF5 and 4.1

but has better graphics than them, im quite excited for it that the people there didnt make the mistake the people who made this game did so far with how it looks, hopefully the game itself isnt gonna be like this as well
Iron rain looks pretty good, especially on UE4
Kingsoup Feb 27, 2021 @ 9:25am 
This game is pretty bad, I've played 4.1 and now 5 which is a vastly superior game. This one feels unfinished, there are only like 5 level designs, the guns are all gimicky and poorly designed, stun locked is a real problem, I"m irritated I wasted money on this one as usually EDF is pretty fun especially coop.
PusakIsCat Mar 14, 2021 @ 11:06pm 
I kind of like the game. but one thing that always, always break the immersion is the friendly AI. they are like 3 year olds given nerf guns to shoot at something. except 3 year olds are better squadmates than the friendly Ai in this game. they literally sit around, mostly shooting nowhere. if they fixed that, this game will be extremely enjoyable.
zero254 Mar 15, 2021 @ 1:07am 
Originally posted by PusakIsCat:
I kind of like the game. but one thing that always, always break the immersion is the friendly AI. they are like 3 year olds given nerf guns to shoot at something. except 3 year olds are better squadmates than the friendly Ai in this game. they literally sit around, mostly shooting nowhere. if they fixed that, this game will be extremely enjoyable.
Wholeheartedly agree with this. The AI is absolutely worthless to the point of getting in your way.
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