A Post about Everything in 30 hours that needs a fix.

[FlyingAllNight]

So this is a rundown of EVERYTHING I saw in my first real run of playing this game. To the EA Testers 'What the Hell?!'

COMBAT
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When you play there is only 2 combat experiences.
-- 5 mins in when you first sell pot. This fight you are suppose to lose. Create 2 Workers at the most and let them die. Anything else slows you down.
-- Hours later into the game you create and sell Cloudy Meth. The Major becomes the Mayor and attacks. In the fight my guys couldn't kill the attackers. AND the attackers couldn't kill my top geared guards. They just stood next to each other shooting for a couple of mins and then ran away.

THAT IS ALL THE COMBAT.

THE BASE
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Tons of issues here.
--- Pathing can affect your employees at any time. My last game I was 8 hours in and I added a 3rd repair man to the base. All 3 stopped repairing causing tons of chaos. Farmers will randomly get stuck. Cleaners are the worst and spend 50% of the time stuck. And don't get me started on delivery vehicles.
---3 different kinds of Pot to sell and deliver. ACTUALLY make that one. Selling two or three kinds of Pot through delivery is a lost cause. Say you have 8 of one pot and 8 of another. The AI delivery does not understand, with cars, and will deliver pot that is not needed losing you money. My advice is to sell ONLY the first pot as 3star. Lights are cheap and take less area. Orders run smoothly without waste. Other two pot upgrades on deliveries PAY MORE but COST MORE to deliver. Sell them at your Fronts only. Cheap 3star pot is the ONLY thing you should be delivering.

MONUMENTS
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--- Order Hotline should be your focus for most of the game. Get that upgraded all the way. ALWAYS accept orders. ALWAYS ONLY sell one type of drug. I chose the first pot at 3star due to area needed to create and cost.
---Gym. 8k for 5% less damage taken in two whole fights in over 8 hours. Just say NO.
---Construction Site. 10k to pay a little less for construction. Uhhh if you have 10k it should be going to buying land and creating more farmers. Don't bother.
---Pawn Shop 15k?! 15k to decrease the price on equipment. Like Construction you will never use this.
---Legislation Office. Your Fronts can stay open longer. REALITY. You buy the upgrade and NOTHING happens. Whoops.
Billboards - 20k to get that 5star rating on your legit business Fronts. More stars more customers. Sounds good. Reality you pay 20k and it last for a couple of days and drops off. Even late game 20k seems more useful anywhere else.

Conclusion only Order Hotline was really used. Rest either doesn't work or is game fluff that barely does anything.

GUN SHOP/SCRAPYARD/UNIVERSITY
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---Scrapyard should be the focus early on for the car. Then its the Boxing station. Finally Bright light. Rest anytime you feel like it but focus early here for those upgrades.
---Gun Shop items are not needed until hours later in the game for ONE FIGHT. Ignore the Gun Shop no reason to ever use it. When attacked PAUSE, ERASE DOORS, and you won. Again the testers .... I have no idea what they did but its obvious what they didn't do.
---University you need a few things. Focus early for auto bench and rack. Get the farmer clothes ... not sure if they work but I would get them anyways (just in case). The two Cannabis upgrades can be ignored for awhile since you are building the base not selling at a legit business Front. REMEMBER! Sell these 2 upgrades at the Fronts NOT through the Order Hotline.

Licences
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Only 3 Legit business are in the game. Laundry, Doughnuts, and Chicken. ONLY the Laundry seems to be less buggy. Didn't have any problems at the lower licences. Had problems with both the Doughnut and Chicken shops running at the lower licences and only got both working correctly when I fully upgraded the licences.

You want to upgrade these licenses as soon as you can. Especially the doughnut and chicken businesses. DON'T even bother running either without full upgrades. If you try to run either on the lower licences you will find your Cashiers sometimes won't go to the register. Cooks get stuck. ALOT of bad pathing and problems seem to happen. LESS seem to happen at a full upgraded licence.

Buying Plots
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So your selling product at your Laundry and Doughnut. Do you need another one of these business? Not really. I actually bought 60% of the base area before I started the chicken business. I was selling so much pot every day I never had a surplus that made me think I needed another business.

NOW the chicken business will set off an attack when you sell your first Cloudy Meth there. After that I never saw another attack.

QUEST LINE
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There is only ONE quest line in the game. Not much depth so far in the game. Quest line goes from Astronauts to Aliens and gets your some nice gear you can buy and use. I was really excited to get my space armor and space weapons and to see them in action. Hours later I got my wish and they didn't kill anyone and didn't die. They stood next to the attackers and slapped each other. No cool space lasers nada. AND THEN .... no more fights.

I'd still do the quest line but I don't know if any of the equipment works.

POLICE / FIRE DEPARTMENT / TRAFFIC
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Car traffic outside your base and businesses can be a little annoying. For some reason it gets bad outside your base .... for no reason.

Got a fire? Well there is no fire department. Workers don't seem to put out the fire either. THE FIX - erase the equipment that caught on fire and wait it out. Didn't figure out any other solution.

POLICE - So you sell drugs. You see police go by with their lights on all the time. Do they do anything? Nothing. Obviously this is something to be added later. But for now your drivers will never be pulled over and your businesses will never be raided.




Thats all I can think of right now. I'm sure I missed something. But feel free to post in this thread if you need help or have a question on something in the game.

As of right now I gave the game a negative review. It is an EA game so you have to figure alot of content isn't in the game. EA games also will have bugs. My problem was the amount of pathing and other bugs, some game breaking that are in at release. The game is really bare bones to have some of these issues.

If the developers are active and get on these bugs and pathing issues then I would give it a positive review due to the progress going in the right direction. But there is SO MANY things and I have to wonder how the early access testers didn't point these out.

[AZCards]

No dev reply to this one? Also Merge, it's not my fault you guys publish games Im interested in. I'm being cordial though. Hopefully we can both see that.

[Le_Doobs]

this guy resumed almost everything thumb up !

[the wi-fi]

excellent; ditto

[Merloga]

Yeah the pathing is kinda killing the fun rn, I always ahve to reemploy people because they die of bad path finding

[Spaghetti]

I found you have to set rooms for each profession including the kitchen, the toilet, the bedroom, the storage area, and the downtime space after a few hours they start going in the right places. it feels like doing the programming for designers. guards still never go anywhere you set them to, and patrol is still broken.

I agree using guards is broken right now. I've set up many with heavy doors. it makes no difference. they send way more police thugs with much better stuff in such impossible numbers every 4th payout is impossible to reach then all your people die and they trash loads of your business.

i think they should add in a custom setting to the main menu to make different elements less unforgiving.

at the moment it's just a game where we wait until we can no longer pay bribes after 3 or 4 then it just doubles every time to impossibility, destruction is inevitable. It doesn't make any difference how you play the game it is just always like that.

It gets boring. Can we have customer satisfaction by buying real food from a nice place? like a tree adds beauty. seats add functionality. these sorts of things should make your business seem legit. Why do we even have guards? are they supposed to do anything?

I agree with you, it's a fun game. but I don't really want to play such a broken one.

[thePalindrome]

Guards are now "kindof" needed with the new Police Chief, since he sends raids if you don't (or can't) pay... which ends of softlocking you as the basic guard gets two-tapped by a single cop. So you might just have to avoid ever selling drugs through a business (which prevents the cops from engaging). As it happens, my guard just stood still and didn't even bother attacking

[davicentef]

For me, the most anoying bug is when you restore a saved game and all your employees from the factory have dessapeared. With all the time needed for hiring them and configure everything (rooms, drugs, color, equipment ...), that's something that gets me crazy.
The game promises a lot, and without bugs would offer tons of fun. But right now it's difficult to enjoy with so many broken things. Let's wait until everything is fixed, hopefully soon :)

[Jackie Daytona]

most of the progression can be ignored, I always just do basic tree then send to scrapyard while keep landromat till i get the truck, with truck i make cloudy meth sell on street till i can get cocaine going get crack up sell on street till i can afford night club then make pure then become Tony Montana, end. most of the other drugs you dont need to mess with, I just take the hits from the cop and aave money for repairs. it's not worth it to spend 1000's on gear to have the jack ass killed so easily and i'd rather have more workers than useless guards that make me money, and let's be honest they are all expendable.

[Jackie Daytona]

I wish there was more on he distribution side like we could have gangs control blocks fight gang wars, cause that's the real black market. Add different gangs with diff strengths and weaknesses and we can supply them. I'd also go into the importation of raw materials, IMO it's absurd that I grow the coca leaf in my factory. we should be importing raw base from wherever and have to manage boats or planes etc, then we could have the cocaine cowboy era vibes too. You already got the Florida 80's vibe go with it, add heat as well more we sell more our heat goes up add things to lower our heat, which would be the bribes that we pay now, and we should get perks for those bribes like the police delivering our product which would give no heat like in Miami in the 80's that stuff really happened. have different level of hired goons, add professionals like the film heat that don't mess around and are OP as hell but cost a lot of money, require specific gear etc. i'd love to have an actual blackmarket simulator with every bell and whistle takes place in the 80's in Miami. would be awesome.