Is this using emulation? Or is it a recreation?

[Little Game Fairy]

I would presume, like a lot of older games that have been brought to Steam, it is using an emulator of some sort.

Very few of these console games had PC releases. And, given their age, usually the source code and assets have sadly been lost. :<

In which case, usually porters go for simply emulation. Would that also be the case, here?

[Io]

Pretty much guaranteed it's just an emulation with a filter splooshed over most of the game. Even the FF8 remaster is just an emulation with updated character models much of which can be achieved with current emulators.

Unless the game is a full remake like FF7 game devs these days have as you said lost the original coding to do it or are just blantantly too lazy to do it properly.

PS: I wonder if the company is ever going to release a new title at some point? Like so many great RPG series have just gotten left to rot for years. Grandia, Suikoden, Shadow Hearts, Parasite Eve, Chrono Trigger, Mother, KOTOR?!!??!?! Legend of Dragoon (no not a series but it could've been)...

We've been having such a huge influx of nostalgia cash in movies and tv shows but the only gaming company trying to get in on it is SE. I think quite a few of those titles would do well by today's standards if they got another fully fleshed out full 100 hour storyline game.

I'd do nearly anything to see another Chrono Cross, Suikoden or Kotor game come out that lived up to it's predecessors with few changes to the combat/expansive worlds.

[stav8]

Contrary to popular opinion, final fantasy 8 remastered does not use an emulator as you can modify the game. The file structure would not be like it is if it was using an emulator.

I believe they have stated the game is a port so emulation should not be present, they have also stated it is a combination of the saturn version and psone version to create the best version of grandia to date

[Discussions_Acc]

Originally posted by stav8:

they have also stated it is a combination of the saturn version and psone version to create the best version of grandia to date

That's what they said but not what they did. Nothing of the Saturn version is present in the port.

[D-.-RAiL]

i dont think you guys understand what emulation is

[Little Strawberry]

Originally posted by Ð-.-RAїL:

i dont think you guys understand what emulation is

Don't mind them, they're Saturn fanboys who can't think straight at the moment.

[Little Game Fairy]

Originally posted by stav8:

Contrary to popular opinion, final fantasy 8 remastered does not use an emulator as you can modify the game. The file structure would not be like it is if it was using an emulator.

Indeed Final Fantasy VII and VIII were one of the rare Fifth generation console games fully ported to the PC! It would be nice if that were the case here.

Sadly, it seems not all that common, or easy, to do. This many years after the fact.

[Naijiro]

Originally posted by Lust:

Pretty much guaranteed it's just an emulation with a filter splooshed over most of the game. Even the FF8 remaster is just an emulation with updated character models much of which can be achieved with current emulators.

Unless the game is a full remake like FF7 game devs these days have as you said lost the original coding to do it or are just blantantly too lazy to do it properly.

PS: I wonder if the company is ever going to release a new title at some point? Like so many great RPG series have just gotten left to rot for years. Grandia, Suikoden, Shadow Hearts, Parasite Eve, Chrono Trigger, Mother, KOTOR?!!??!?! Legend of Dragoon (no not a series but it could've been)...

We've been having such a huge influx of nostalgia cash in movies and tv shows but the only gaming company trying to get in on it is SE. I think quite a few of those titles would do well by today's standards if they got another fully fleshed out full 100 hour storyline game.

I'd do nearly anything to see another Chrono Cross, Suikoden or Kotor game come out that lived up to it's predecessors with few changes to the combat/expansive worlds.

Originally posted by stav8:

Contrary to popular opinion, final fantasy 8 remastered does not use an emulator as you can modify the game. The file structure would not be like it is if it was using an emulator.

I believe they have stated the game is a port so emulation should not be present, they have also stated it is a combination of the saturn version and psone version to create the best version of grandia to date

I love how the dude above speaks BS as fact, then get corrected right away.

[Io]

Not a dude nor am I a computer that knows everything at the drop of a hat. Quite frankly game devs say A LOT of things that never make it into a game or remaster.

[Chouchers]

It port of switch version.

[Digital Kaz Brazil [Alessandro]]

Originally posted by Lust:

I think quite a few of those titles would do well by today's standards if they got another fully fleshed out full 100 hour storyline game.

There are actually thousands of old games that could be released these days, maybe even in a REBOOT or remake form, such as Black Matrix I and II, which at the time released for PS1 was only in Japanese. Stella Deus (PS2), Odin Sphere (PS2), HOSHIGAMI (PS1), Magna Carta (PS2), Rogue Galaxy (I think this one is exclusive to SONY, so forget it), also a SquareEnix (PS2) game where you played with a boy and could invite to his group over 100 characters I think, the name was Radiata Stories I think! Another SquareEnix game that was Squaresoft at the time, Vagrant Story! Xenogears (PS1), Alundra and thousands of others...
Suikoden, Parasite Eve and Shadow Hearts series on Steam would be really a DREAM come true.

[M1k3ol]

Originally posted by Lust:

Not a dude nor am I a computer that knows everything at the drop of a hat. Quite frankly game devs say A LOT of things that never make it into a game or remaster.

except, this has been properly reported at mainstream sites, it's known fact even HOW they got a hold of the source code of one of the FF games PC releases (after they thought it lost forever) to update it for the current Steam release

So yeah, one thing is not liking how it looks, the other is stating how a game is without any knowledge...

[M1k3ol]

Originally posted by Digital Kaz Brazil Alessandro:

Originally posted by Lust:

I think quite a few of those titles would do well by today's standards if they got another fully fleshed out full 100 hour storyline game.

There are actually thousands of old games that could be released these days, maybe even in a REBOOT or remake form, such as Black Matrix I and II, which at the time released for PS1 was only in Japanese. Stella Deus (PS2), Odin Sphere (PS2), HOSHIGAMI (PS1), Magna Carta (PS2), Rogue Galaxy (I think this one is exclusive to SONY, so forget it), also a SquareEnix (PS2) game where you played with a boy and could invite to his group over 100 characters I think, the name was Radiata Stories I think! Another SquareEnix game that was Squaresoft at the time, Vagrant Story! Xenogears (PS1), Alundra and thousands of others...
Suikoden, Parasite Eve and Shadow Hearts series on Steam would be really a DREAM come true.

The issue with old games is that most used to scrap the source code after release

It was common practice for the industry, I mean, updates and stuff like that didn't existed for consoles, nor they had in mind any re-release that was not just a copy of the master for print

This is why so many games that would be a quick buck grab only land as an emulation in consoles/PC

[theclaw135]

Originally posted by M1k3ol:

Originally posted by Lust:

Not a dude nor am I a computer that knows everything at the drop of a hat. Quite frankly game devs say A LOT of things that never make it into a game or remaster.

except, this has been properly reported at mainstream sites, it's known fact even HOW they got a hold of the source code of one of the FF games PC releases (after they thought it lost forever) to update it for the current Steam release

So yeah, one thing is not liking how it looks, the other is stating how a game is without any knowledge...

Emulation is "guilty until proven innocent". Most people simply assume releases like this are emulated.

[Lone Wolfe (Hoover1979)]

Looks like emulation + BRZ Filter

[Cyflan]

It is not emulated.
All of the sprites and portraits have been hard filtered, you can see them in the game files, since they're all there as .PNG files.

It is a really bizarre way to handle graphics filtering, though.