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CarsonTheOneAndOnly Sep 22, 2024 @ 11:38am
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My mistake.
confirmed, my mistake. (after a checking on the store page I will have to accept this fact that there is a link to a time stamped EULA entry on the far right. I apologize and will admit when I'm mistaken I'll include this in any post, message I have made that refers to this topic and add this to the top of this page as well for those who have a similar concern. let it be a lesson for those that feel tilted to take the opportunity to do more research before they challenge the integrity of others.)

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You guys want me to agree to a EULA for a single player game. No thanks. Gimme my money back.
Last edited by CarsonTheOneAndOnly; Oct 8, 2024 @ 9:59am
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Final_Jill_Fantasy Sep 22, 2024 @ 12:06pm 
Сan you explain more corrent, what do you don't like in EULA ?
Licence:
Streembit limited grants you a revocable, non exclusive, non transferable, limited licence to download, install and use the game solely for your personal non commercial purposes strictly in accordance with the terms of this agreement.

Modification to application:
Streembit limited reserves the right to modify, suspend or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the game or any service that it connects, with or without notice and without liability to you.

the fact that the EULA was introduced post purchase I have no interest in agreeing to the draconian practices of businesses pushing their customers to strip them of their ability to modify the game, post gameplay footage for entertainment purposes and or video review. I have zero interest in signing any EULA that allows its publishers or developers to remove a users ability to play the game, modify or generally take away a customers ability to access purchased content for as little a reason as "wrong say" which is what the Modification to application claus holds under its vague umbrella.
multiplayer online games may get a pass on such EULA content as modifications may lead and often do lead to unfair changes to user abilities but for single player games, there is no need for such an agreement.

after having expressed these concerns before and no action was taken to remedy and was rejected. I would like to point out the rug pull and ask for my money back.
User J Sep 22, 2024 @ 6:03pm 
It's actually kind of a ridiculous EULA seeing that it is on GOG and drm free there lol. Even if they revoked the license for breaching these terms, it really wouldn't affect gog users since they could just have downloaded a digital drm free back up of the game's install client, and play it even if the license was revoked.

They may as well just axe EULA in 1.0 unless they plan on having a multiplayer mode. Unless they plan on going after monitized content creators on some kind of social media platform.
Last edited by User J; Sep 22, 2024 @ 6:09pm
Originally posted by User J:
It's actually kind of a ridiculous EULA seeing that it is on GOG and drm free there lol. Even if they revoked the license for breaching these terms, it really wouldn't affect gog users since they could just have downloaded a digital drm free back up of the game's install client, and play it even if the license was revoked.

They may as well just axe EULA in 1.0 unless they plan on having a multiplayer mode. Unless they plan on going after monitized content creators on some kind of social media platform.

you may very well be hitting the nail on the head there. still, if they aren't willing to come to some kind of compromise, I may just start posting screen shots of the EULA on their page, make more discussions like this, just shine as big a light on this topic as much as possible.:steamsalty:
Deranged Duck Sep 22, 2024 @ 11:10pm 
Well you are very welcome to request a refund notice from steam if you are unhappy with Subverse as a product.
I did. It was denied.
Darkblitzie Sep 23, 2024 @ 3:13pm 
Private profile. Rofl.
MariusDarkblade Sep 23, 2024 @ 11:47pm 
you realize having the EULA on a single player game doesnt even do anything. "Streembit limited reserves the right to modify, suspend or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the game or any service that it connects, with or without notice and without liability to you." except they would have to do that to everyone since they have no way to trace who does what with the game after you buy it. its not connected to the internet save for updates so they have no way to track your IP. plenty of people on youtube are posting reviews of this game and havent lost the ability to play. it seems like you're complaining for nothing. if you want to download cheat engine and mess around, how are they going to know whats going on? the only way they can do that is if they can trace your IP which they can only do when you connect to their server during an online session....which they dont have. all the data is on your system, they send the updates to steam and steam downloads the updated files. a EULA on a single player game is like an M rating on a board game, it does absolutely nothing. they couldnt even get steam to tell you since steam doesnt monitor the data to that degree it only installs the updated files. the only way steam monitors your data is if you uninstall the game steam will recognize that its no longer there. steam has no way of knowing that you messed around with the data files, and realistically important data files would be overwrote anyways upon the update. your anger seems pointless, they had you agree to something they cant even enforce......woe is your pain and misery.
davidb11 Sep 24, 2024 @ 4:07am 
THis makes no sense.
Plenty of Single player games come with EULA.
LOL.

Doesn't even begin to make sense to complain about it for this game.

IT's literally just a thing basically many many games do.
Nothing special.
Nothing draconian.
StudioFow needs to release version 1.0..Litigation THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT WHAT StudioFow NEEDS NOW...oh damn....
Last edited by Final_Jill_Fantasy; Sep 24, 2024 @ 4:46am
Originally posted by davidb11:
THis makes no sense.
Plenty of Single player games come with EULA.
LOL.

Doesn't even begin to make sense to complain about it for this game.

IT's literally just a thing basically many many games do.
Nothing special.
Nothing draconian.

some people watch a small liberty be taken here and there and think "meh it doesn't concern me." they will watch others taken from them and still think, "meh, still doesn't bother me. but hey this guy is speaking up about it... I'm gonna jab at that guy." tomorrow or next week it may still not bother those people but later on there are those that spoke up in history and people laughed at but are now recognized. This is one issue and its merely a stepping stone. and I'm gonna stand up and say that its going the wrong way. I wont support this. maybe ask yourself why do you need to sign a contract to play a game? especially after you purchased it. especially when every other purchase you make that requires a contract signed before you even proceed with the financial transaction.
Ad Massive Sep 24, 2024 @ 7:15pm 
That EULA is entirely unenforceable in most countries.
davidb11 Sep 27, 2024 @ 6:42pm 
Originally posted by CarsonTheOneAndOnly:
Originally posted by davidb11:
THis makes no sense.
Plenty of Single player games come with EULA.
LOL.

Doesn't even begin to make sense to complain about it for this game.

IT's literally just a thing basically many many games do.
Nothing special.
Nothing draconian.

some people watch a small liberty be taken here and there and think "meh it doesn't concern me." they will watch others taken from them and still think, "meh, still doesn't bother me. but hey this guy is speaking up about it... I'm gonna jab at that guy." tomorrow or next week it may still not bother those people but later on there are those that spoke up in history and people laughed at but are now recognized. This is one issue and its merely a stepping stone. and I'm gonna stand up and say that its going the wrong way. I wont support this. maybe ask yourself why do you need to sign a contract to play a game? especially after you purchased it. especially when every other purchase you make that requires a contract signed before you even proceed with the financial transaction.

Your claims here make zero sense ever.

You cannot claim this is evil or bad, or trying to control anyone.
Do not make up nonsense.
Please pay attention to how EULA actually work.

It's not even legally defendable in court.
And besides, it's not even a huge issue ever.
No one can claim it's part of a giant conspiracy.
Hex Sep 28, 2024 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by Frigus Ales:
Private profile. Rofl.

In OP's defense if you want to go ahead and criticize someone for a bad take I recommend going to X.

OP entirely had the decision to buy this and saw that in fine print if you played for over 2 hours or more you'd void your refund.
Originally posted by itsenushima:
Originally posted by Frigus Ales:
Private profile. Rofl.

In OP's defense if you want to go ahead and criticize someone for a bad take I recommend going to X.

OP entirely had the decision to buy this and saw that in fine print if you played for over 2 hours or more you'd void your refund.

considering the recent introduction of the EULA and it wasn't something that existed before spring of 2024. that alone should be something that supersedes the original purchase agreement conditions but steam doesn't protect against this because its not a common occurrence and the moderator hasn't come across this before and defaulted to the most basic business practices which is, its not my problem, therefore its not a problem... rejected rather than identifying that the game didn't originally have any waver to sign, they didn't have a EULA available and now unless you agree to accept the terms and conditions the game is little more than a bloated wallpaper.

but this isn't just this EULA that is being disputed. its to help put on record the comparison of events to prevent other bad actors from releasing a game only to hide other terms and conditions post purchase of the product. are these devs threatening you for modifying the game in the future? hopefully not. but that has happened with tencent when they purchased techland against a game modder who released the mod IAMLEGION. the difference between that instance and this instance. techland had included their EULA and a TOS upon launch of the game ensuring that there was no room for misinterpretation which if your going to be a B then be the whole B which is what they did but Streembit Limited waffled on releasing the EULA for 3 years and now all of a sudden they want to slap some legal jargon on the game and hold everyone in contempt to sign an agreement? I ask, why aren't more people seeing this and saying "hey, jerks, that's not right!"
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Date Posted: Sep 22, 2024 @ 11:38am
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