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camsyams Dec 21, 2022 @ 7:04pm
Level Scaling
levels are a problem most of my mantics are too low level to use and even some of my waifu's lily for example is only level 22 because i have been trying to get to 30 devotion for all the waifu's for the story unlocks anyways i havn't used her in a long time and now she is very weak to the point where i cant even use her anymore in grid combat same with mantics that i dont use often i think this is easily fixed make all mantics and waifu's level together even if you don't use them that way you don't get punished for leveling up devotion and you wont be locked out of using old mantics.... thoughts?
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Zaflis Dec 22, 2022 @ 1:56am 
I don't think even my main heroes are level 20 even less the mantics are closer to 10, but sure i can't beat most ground missions in the new content. At least you can skip them after 3 fails so that's good.
Metko Dec 22, 2022 @ 4:32am 
I have no clue if they level up anymore, the only mantics i have that are around 20 are the very early ones, 3-4 mantics only, i tried to play the newer ones when they released but even after 4-5 ground combats they seem stuck around lvl 13 or on release level.

I gave up on using them, would be a good idea to increase ( catch up system) and show XP progress on Combat end for Mantics too
Last edited by Metko; Dec 22, 2022 @ 4:32am
Marn Dec 22, 2022 @ 5:54am 
I think I have about 4/5 of the game content done and my Waifus are all above lvl 20 with Taron almost at 30.

The mantics definitely need a ~25-33% exp share or so. 10-20 levels of difference on a mantic is the difference between being one shot and being able to tank a hit or two.

I don't think the Waifus need an exp share though because space battles and item gifting can make up the difference here.
FordGT90Concept Dec 31, 2022 @ 4:32pm 
That was my first impression of the new content: ground combat is nigh impossible. I have yet to complete a Requital ground mission from the recent patch. Space combat is fine. Everything was okay balance-wise until this new content.

Edit: I think should try turning Requital damage down by 20-25% would fix the problem. Requital ground combat is so unbalanced compared to the other factions.

Edit: It is possible to beat the Requital ground combat missions but you really do have to use older Manticores and heroines for it. The two new Manticores and Fortune apparently have big debuffs against Requital so...it's a trap.

For the record, when I started everything was level 18+ (only 18s were the new Manticores). By the end, I believe I got Fortune up to 28 with everything else being between 20 and 28.
Last edited by FordGT90Concept; Jan 1, 2023 @ 12:36am
Paladin42 Jan 8, 2023 @ 1:11am 
I found all the ground combat extremely easy until Azzorion round 2. Now I keep seeming to have the damage taken increasing each attempt. Something seems off and someone should have told the devs not to let 4 mobs wail on a solo character. Even if they don't do much, it's VERY tedious to watch with no input.

Edit: beat him a few tries later. Must have gotten lucky as the guard ladies didn't target me nearly as often and Azz didn't do the massive AOE ceiling crumble move. Despite more than 10 tries, got Gold.
Last edited by Paladin42; Jan 8, 2023 @ 1:26am
Ribonizer Jan 8, 2023 @ 8:37am 
Two of the new mantics can stun and it's a great way to counter Requital, actually.
Sintonir Jan 16, 2023 @ 3:06am 
In my most recent playthrough wiped the floor with enemies in the most combats, and I only did the plot after Act one. Then after finishing the current content I unlocked all mantic cores before getting to other sidequests. Still killed everything in my path, including Requital.
The only hard fight was Azzorion, but it is still doable. In others I at worst lost two mantics, which were grounds to replay because that meant no gold.
So no, i wouldn't say there is a problem with the scaling. The fights would definitely be easier if you level-up before them, but they are still doable with levels 13ish for waifu and 12ish for mantics.
TheBeautifulOne Jan 18, 2023 @ 8:23pm 
Levels for mantics are just a bad idea in general given how many of them you have, you're either consistently underlevelled or ignore all but a few of them.
Jadefox Jan 21, 2023 @ 9:00pm 
Up to this point my girls are between 22-25. Some of the more recent mantics have a stun ability. This makes ground combat a lot easier.

With mantics you have to be very selective. Your pretty much stuck with a max of six if you want to keep their levels up. Right now two of the early ones I have at level 32 and 28. The other 4 I use are at 24-26.
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Date Posted: Dec 21, 2022 @ 7:04pm
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