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DaniTheHero Mar 26, 2021 @ 12:53pm
Expected the gameplay to be.. more.
So far i've seen two gameplay sections. the same ones were teased before.
Space fighting sort of bullet hell space invaders mode and a turn based like tile mode.

The space fighting seemed rather fun, nothing too amazing but i'm going to assume it's going to get deeper with wackier weapons and skills and tougher enemies.

The turn based gameplay was.. awful. The sort of thing you'd see in a mobile game, which the games narration fully acknowledged which is funny, but still doesn't change the fact that it is just that.

Voice acting is good and the idle animations in the visual novel like conversations are nice, although repeat quite often even just 2 hours into the game.

In terms of the more lewd content, i expected a bit more.. interactivity.
If it's just looped scenes i watch and only control a slider for speed, there's nothing really stopping me from just waiting a few weeks to watch a collection on some appropriate site.

The game isn't too expensive and since it's EA i'm sure it'll improve, but i must admit i expected more.
Last edited by DaniTheHero; Mar 26, 2021 @ 1:04pm
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CalUKGR Mar 26, 2021 @ 1:05pm 
Not a fan of the bullet-hell stuff, but hey-ho. I think the overall quality of the production is pretty good, although I wouldn't have had this game down as being made with the Unreal Engine (it doesn't quite match implicit visual expectation, IMO). Overall, it seems to be pretty much what I thought it would be - lots of foul language and lewdness, but mostly harmless. So far, at least.
Cyan~ Mar 26, 2021 @ 1:07pm 
The turn based gameplay was.. awful. The sort of thing you'd see in a mobile game,

Its pretty basic yeah, not bad though and definitely gets a bit spicier later on, not great but hey, its definitely better than "ok" or a mobile game
davidb11 Mar 26, 2021 @ 1:08pm 
the bullet hell section shouldn't be actually bullet hell. Is it actually that bad?
I think of Touhou when I think of bullet hell, and I don't mean the easiest difficulty on touhou games. :P
DaniTheHero Mar 26, 2021 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by davidb11:
the bullet hell section shouldn't be actually bullet hell. Is it actually that bad?
I think of Touhou when I think of bullet hell, and I don't mean the easiest difficulty on touhou games. :P

I didn’t go thar far to determine how will it develop.
I intentionally capped myself at 2 hours so i could decide wether i should refund or not.

Granted this game clearly shows effort and passion by this small team. And i want to support them..
But I’m not getting any richer and my time is only getting more valuable.

I really have no need for a 30 bucks “okay” game right now. As theres plenty of other things I can occupy with instead.
And since the lewdness isn’t as interactive as I expected it’s safe to assume you’ll find this on various hubs sooner or later if this is the ONLY reason you’re interested.
DaniTheHero Mar 26, 2021 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by Cyan~:
The turn based gameplay was.. awful. The sort of thing you'd see in a mobile game,

Its pretty basic yeah, not bad though and definitely gets a bit spicier later on, not great but hey, its definitely better than "ok" or a mobile game

Meh
Originally posted by Cyan~:
The turn based gameplay was.. awful. The sort of thing you'd see in a mobile game,

Its pretty basic yeah, not bad though and definitely gets a bit spicier later on, not great but hey, its definitely better than "ok" or a mobile game

hate to break it to you
but if u think this is better then ok or a mobile game u clearly dont know much on the mobile games department lol as theres better mobile games then this
Daddy Kaneki Mar 26, 2021 @ 4:22pm 
Lack of interactivity besides playing with a slider and pressing the coom button is indeed a downside, and it's a very common drawback in games like this.

The good news is that there's nothing preventing them from developing more interactive and involved sex scenes. There could be just a few of them later in development as endgame goodies or something similar.

The rest of the game (space shoot-em-up and turn based tactics) is fun enough. It feels good to play. The sex scenes, while well-animated, are the least engaging aspect of the game.
Last edited by Daddy Kaneki; Mar 26, 2021 @ 4:23pm
DaniTheHero Mar 26, 2021 @ 7:15pm 
Originally posted by Tormented Soul NLD:
Originally posted by Cyan~:
The turn based gameplay was.. awful. The sort of thing you'd see in a mobile game,

Its pretty basic yeah, not bad though and definitely gets a bit spicier later on, not great but hey, its definitely better than "ok" or a mobile game

hate to break it to you
but if u think this is better then ok or a mobile game u clearly dont know much on the mobile games department lol as theres better mobile games then this

Yeah..

Once again, there's clearly a lot of effort put into this game by such a small team but when the gameplay is barely okay even by mobile standards are the "lewd" reward is barely a reward but just a slider and coom button, there isn't really much going for the game yet.

Perhaps i'll revisit the project once it's compete and be slightly more impressed.
Doom Mar 26, 2021 @ 7:25pm 
Originally posted by DaniTheHero:
So far i've seen two gameplay sections. the same ones were teased before.
Space fighting sort of bullet hell space invaders mode and a turn based like tile mode.
I was planning to buy this but I saw someone else play it and... it was awful.

As if someone made an asteroids clone, but decide to add Mass Effect cutscenes to it with self-ironic jokes.

There are two problems here:

First it would be nice if western devs stopped thinking that adding porn to the game is going to save the day if gameplay part sucks. This seems to be a common thing in all adult titles these days --> "Nice art, awful gameplay loop".

Second, would be nice to have something unironic once. Like straight serious story with sex. Without constant 4th wall breaking.
DaniTheHero Mar 26, 2021 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Doom:
Originally posted by DaniTheHero:
So far i've seen two gameplay sections. the same ones were teased before.
Space fighting sort of bullet hell space invaders mode and a turn based like tile mode.
I was planning to buy this but I saw someone else play it and... it was awful.

As if someone made an asteroids clone, but decide to add Mass Effect cutscenes to it with self-ironic jokes.

There are two problems here:

First it would be nice if western devs stopped thinking that adding porn to the game is going to save the day if gameplay part sucks. This seems to be a common thing in all adult titles these days --> "Nice art, awful gameplay loop".

Second, would be nice to have something unironic once. Like straight serious story with sex. Without constant 4th wall breaking.

I agree. Although i did find most of the script funny so far, it would get old real quick.

I would have much prefered a serious game that has M rated content (What Cyberpunk promised and failed to be).
There would be no shame in having a sort of mass effect like game with a serious narrative but with the characters simply being more crude than usually allowed and sex to be more common and not censored compared to other games.

Afterall if i really bought this ONLY for cooming, i would of just waited a couple of weeks for all the released content to appear on sites like the hub.
I actually expected this game to have somewhat entertaining gameplay or/and story, but got disappointed by pretty much everything other than the voice acting that was indeed superb for the most part ( For some reason Lily sounded off for me).
Last edited by DaniTheHero; Mar 26, 2021 @ 7:32pm
Xeerz Mar 26, 2021 @ 7:58pm 
I read a lot of complaints about lacking gameplay but i see zero examples of porn games with actual good game play that even comes close to what subverse is giving us.

Can any of you naysayers give me some examples?

No, not games with a smidge of snoo snoo, but full blown porn games with decent functioning game elements that does not borderline end up being a mindless grind.

And keep in mind the porn needs to be borderline FOW worthy of quality as well.
Xeerz Mar 26, 2021 @ 8:07pm 
I call it a porn game like i call total war a strategy game...

It's a genre thing yah know.

All they trying to do is making a porn game that also gives you stuff to do outside of the porn without turning your mind into a dribbling goo fest.

People who hype it up beyond that.. need to learn to tone it down a nudge. Albeit it's a hard lesson to learn I'll admit, it took me a while to get a handle on it myself.

Still no example.

E: dumb remark removed
Last edited by Xeerz; Mar 26, 2021 @ 8:08pm
Doom Mar 26, 2021 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by Xeerz:
I read a lot of complaints about lacking gameplay but i see zero examples of porn games with actual good game play that even comes close to what subverse is giving us.

Can any of you naysayers give me some examples?
How does Global Turn-based strategy with porn where winning is actually bloody difficult sound?

See Rance/Daibanchou from alicesoft. On top of being global strategy with a timer, those things have non-linear story, missable characters, storylines that have to be unlocked, secret endings (tons) and good luck unlocking every artwork.

Takes over 50 hours to beat.

Eyuu Senki is likely similar, though I haven't played it.
There's Utawarerumono (turn based strategy), Tears to Tiara (turn based), and also stuff with mech combat and so on, multiple dungeon crawler hybrids and so on.

The thing is, most of it is not on steam. Honestly, you could probably just go on vndb and look for high rated stuff with SRPG/ARPG tag.
Last edited by Doom; Mar 26, 2021 @ 8:27pm
Looks like a lazy attempt to get some cash off coomers, and it appears to be doing great at that. Can't fault them for making money.
Lord Greystroke Mar 26, 2021 @ 8:23pm 
the bullet hell is just awful and not fun at all wish i could skip the story ones not at all fun think i will give up on this game until that's an option
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