Beyond the Veil - Ch 4

[CSaintD]

I have had to restart this chapter so many times because something always happens to freeze it up or make the end condition un-winnable while trying to get the challenges.

One - I was trying to use the merchants power to evade monsters, and I got another card that brought up the hades key. I didn't pick it up because I wanted to get the challenge. I did that and now I can't get the hades key to come up again. Round 120 and counting. OK- RESTART the quest. Annoying.

My latest issue is I just got the challenge for evading a ghost in the veil (which is hard to understand what that means, btw) and now every time I roll and try to move, the whole game freezes up.. It took me a lot of time to get that done and once again I have to restart the quest from scratch.

It is annoying that I can't get credit for doing these challenges without getting to the end-game criteria, but even more annoying is that the game doesn't like that you don't do things in proper order. You can't even get three monsters to fight until after you have the breakwater diver and then it takes a lot of time to get them to come up.

[Mandaaar]

Hello,

Thanks for the feedback - I can understand your frustration with the wording of the "Evade Ghost" challenges, I'll let the designers know and hopefully we can improve that.

Thematically, the idea was that you where a Ghost evading a Ghost. However there are easier ways to complete this challenge without having to kill yourself. For Example, if you encounter one of the Breach terrain cards and cast the spell "Invisibility", you should be able to complete that challenge like this.

I'm a bit stuck with your 1st problem and I was hoping you could give me a bit more information. The Hades Key has been placed in the discard pile which is why you need the Brakwater Diver to try and retrieve it. The Hades Key is a cursed item, meaning you shouldn't have been given the option to NOT pick it up.
In your comment, you talk about "Another card that brought the hades key up", i was wondering if you could remember what this card is. I understand that at 120 rounds, you've seen a lot of cards, but it would be a great help if you could remember any extra detail.

Cheers!

[CSaintD]

Originally posted by Mandaaar:

Hello,

Thanks for the feedback - I can understand your frustration with the wording of the "Evade Ghost" challenges, I'll let the designers know and hopefully we can improve that.

Thematically, the idea was that you where a Ghost evading a Ghost. However there are easier ways to complete this challenge without having to kill yourself. For Example, if you encounter one of the Breach terrain cards and cast the spell "Invisibility", you should be able to complete that challenge like this.

I'm a bit stuck with your 1st problem and I was hoping you could give me a bit more information. The Hades Key has been placed in the discard pile which is why you need the Brakwater Diver to try and retrieve it. The Hades Key is a cursed item, meaning you shouldn't have been given the option to NOT pick it up.
In your comment, you talk about "Another card that brought the hades key up", i was wondering if you could remember what this card is. I understand that at 120 rounds, you've seen a lot of cards, but it would be a great help if you could remember any extra detail.

Cheers!

I'm sorry I can't remember the card, but it was one that (I think) if you beat the enemy, you could choose an object (out of 3) from the discard pile. I didn't even have the breakwater diver yet, so didn't pick it up as I didn't want to end the game and wasn't sure if it would count that way.

As for the evading ghost challenge, I like the idea of it, I just didn't understand what it meant having not played the "beyond the veil" extension in the regular game. I realized, finally, that you had to kill yourself to become a ghost to do the challenge. Just the wording of the challenge "while in the veil" made me think that you had to be on one of the "veil" terrain cards that are scattered around. A little better description was all that was needed.

Overall, I guess I expected more of a tutorial about the "beyond the veil" extension. I know the first chapters where you play as a ghost helped with that a bit, but they were pretty short, so I didn't get to see the whole range of the extension, I guess.

[jboliver1999]

There is an issue with getting the "Key of Hades" if the last object discarded was a bag of gold. You are forced to take it which puts it back on top of the discard pile. I was at almost 200 rounds. I was able to do the monsters and evade a ghost (I was turned into a ghost) but if you get a bag of gold, you're stuck. Even if you get that card/enemy that lets you take one of 3 objects from the discard pile, if one is not the key but one is a bag of gold, you are stuck in an endless loop.