Windows 7 and 8.1 Support

[Takahashi 91]

UPDATE 1:

FOR WINDOWS 8.1- i HAVE HAD ZERO ISSUES RUNNING IT, I STARTED AND PLAYED THE GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE OR MESS WITH ANYTHING.

FOR WINDOWS 7- INITIALLY I COULDN'T GET IT TO START AT ALL, I WAS ABLE TO GET TO THE MAIN MENU BY BYPASSING THE LAUNCHER WITH THE STEPS SHOWN IN THIS VIDEO. WITH THE VIDEO BELOW I WAS ABLE TO GET TO THE MAIN MENU BUT I WAS NOT ABLE TO START THE GAME, WOULD CRASH AS SOON AS YOU HIT STORY OR TRY TO CHANGE SETTINGS. I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO A COUPLE PEOPLE ON THE FORMS WHO CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET IT RUNNING ON WINDOWS 7 BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DUPLICATE THE RESULTS ON MY RIG.

CONCLUSION: IF YOU HAVE WINDOWS 8.1 I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT. INFACT IT IS RUNNING BETTER THAN MAFIA 3 DID. IF YOU HAVE WINDOWS 7 I WOULD CAUTION YOU IN PURCHASING IT. I AM GOING TO KEEP LOOKING TO SEE IF I CAN FIND A WORKAROUND FOR WINDOWS 7 BUT TILL A RELIABLE WORKAROUND IS FOUND I WOULD NOT PURCHASE IF YOU HAVE WINDOWS 7. WINDOWS 8.1 ON THE OTHER HAND IS FINE.

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UPDATE 2:

ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME MISSING FILES IN PLAY THAT MAY BE CAUSING THE ISSUES WITH WINDOWS 7 COMPATIBILITY. I AM STILL LOOKING INTO IT. BUT IT IS VERY HARD TO SAY WHAT SPECIFIC FILES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE OR MISSING. I STILL HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE GAME RUNNING ON THE WINDOWS 7 COMPUTER. BUT THE WINDOWS 8.1 COMPUTER IS WORKING JUST FINE I HAVE ALMOST COMPLETED THE GAME WITH IT. WILL UPDATE AGAIN IF I LEARN ANYTHING FURTHER.

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UPDATE 3:

WE HAVE ACHIEVED A SOLUTION TO WINDOWS 7. I MARKED THE CORRECT ANSWER BELOW. I HAVE TESTED THIS OUT ON MY SYSTEM AND ALSO ON A FRIENDS WINDOWS 7 COMPUTER AS WELL AND THE SOLUTION SOLVES THE CRASHING AND THE GAME NOW PLAYS NORMALLY. WE DID IT, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION. WE HAVE SHOWN WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE WHEN WE COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. WE NOW HAVE COMPATIABILTY WITH WINDOWS 7 AND WINDOWS 8.1.


https://youtu.be/TDeKn_3ic78

[Omar Os.]

Originally posted by punkchef:

1/2 a dozen losers still using windows seven does not make it a failed launch , they didn't bother with windows seven because they probally did not expect IDIOTS to STILL be using it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
Also the requirements clearly said Windows 10 only 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Ashtr1x]

Originally posted by Omar Os.:

Originally posted by punkchef:

1/2 a dozen losers still using windows seven does not make it a failed launch , they didn't bother with windows seven because they probally did not expect IDIOTS to STILL be using it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
Also the requirements clearly said Windows 10 only 🤷🏻‍♂️

AOE II DE said Win10 only it works on 7 and 8.1
Serious Sam 4 said Win10 only, it works on 7 and 8.1
Mafia II DE and Mafia III said Win10 only they work on 7 and 8.1

Mafia DE said Win10 only and it works on 8.1 without issue and 7 with DXVK.

Is this a joke for you or you are idiotic when people are discussing and trying hard to identify the issue at stake because of DX11 only game barring to work on the Win7 OS when the purpose of the whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thread is to discuss the damn issue, why do you creep in like a rat and beating the same drum. People here won't change their OSes for you, they will even maintain dual boot system to run the old games on the Desktop Centric UX OS which respects people's choice.

Win10 is a disaster, it has UWP driver system which breaks a lot of compatibility go to Intel HD drivers and read on legacy as Intel branded the usual .inf drivers and their b.s UWP trash, then you have Xbox bloatware in the machine, Win10 runs 2x the number of processes vs 7 and 8.1 the OS has been for free from MS even when people used pirated copies because they wanted the user data. Go and read Win10 Home EULA to know more on the data collection, they constantly make every single application like Office, Studio etc to be as a Service because they want to be in control not you, same for Adobe products, as a Service, WIndows as a Service is called Win10 and that is not a stable OS. Some games are bugged forever on Win10 and some games need .exe updates TR2013 needed an .exe patch for 2004 Windows installation go to steam depot and check yourself. The OS is made for beta, when insider rings test the OS and free bug identification they patch them up every Tuesday and then push them to Enterprise channels which are their biggest customers. And with every single semi annual channel update the OS gets all settings, registry, policies changed the OS gets Desktop Composer updated from DX perspective so games needed the same patches, after 10 years we won't know how the old games work on Win10, Game preservation on this OS is not possible. Esp modding tools and etc for older games.

The control panel misses a lot of stuff with every update and MS is on a constant war with the people who want a "Personal Computer". They all use Apple macbooks and iPads and mobiles, making this OS a touch centric b.s not the powerful OS it actually is. Some people block the updates but cannot stay on the old release for a long time, since the drivers for the desktop window manager get updated and if they do not that will be a huge performance impact or unknown issues with the system, while for 7 and 8.1 this issue doesn't exist because the same desktop composer is SAME. And the OS core components doesn't get changed (MS started to add telemetry and other shovelware onto the old OSes but people can control them still), even after 10 years Win7 still able to run latest games, CB2077 has DX12 support and Nvidia Ampere supports Win7 too, you think those companies are fools to support the OS, are you qualified enough to understand even a shred of thing what I wrote here ? MS is heavily inspired by Apple as their utopian walled garden policy made these companies jealous, so they stopped caring about user freedom and pushing the same with their ads while reaping all the data, new products like that BGA throttling mess of a crap called Surface, do you know that Intel Plundervolt is a big issue and on these Win10 greatest machines the end user on the notebooks cannot control their voltage as the Win10 udpates forced their BIOSes to be updated and block Undervolting and causing overheating causing instabilities. Do you know that Cortana was integrated with the Search and people who remove components from the OS for a thin ISO couldn't remove that bloat as it broke search ? Same for Xbox services, that's why Gamebar is a part of a Xbox services and if you remove it, games like FS2020 won't work properly because it uses Azure technology for the textures from the cloud using that XBLive.

Why are you so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dumb to not being able to see what is an OS, Hardware and how data is very powerful with the technology on the planet. Data is Oil. And spew such b.s useless lines in this discussions ?

[Madness]

And gathering from what was already said in this thread multiple times: it was already proven that 2K works with Microsoft so of course they would claim it only works on Win10 just to support Win10. It seems that they blocked Win7 on purpose, not because the game wouldn't support the system but because MS team did not want to support Win7 anymore so hey, let's make a game to start up on this system but "whoops, you can't play, too bad :("

So HUUUUUUUGE thank you for everyone who solved this problem! I'm going to give it a try too and let's hope I can also play the game without problems! I knew I could trust players, I have played other games too that would not have ever worked properly without gamers adding mods and such to it to make it work better than the devs ever could (looking at you, The Sims 3).

[fun guy]

Originally posted by Madness:

And gathering from what was already said in this thread multiple times: it was already proven that 2K works with Microsoft so of course they would claim it only works on Win10 just to support Win10. It seems that they blocked Win7 on purpose, not because the game wouldn't support the system but because MS team did not want to support Win7 anymore so hey, let's make a game to start up on this system but "whoops, you can't play, too bad :("

What I think really happens is that the game uses some DirectX 11.1 or 11.2 specific feature, which Windows 7 doesn't support, so it panics

[Elisiyum]

Originally posted by Villano:

Originally posted by MickJagg!:

Win7 users use the DXVK method for success.
https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases
Download the tar.gz file & extract all .dll files to the game directory.

Now, go to Documents\My Games\Mafia Definitive Edition\Saves
Edit launcconfig.cfg with notepad and change to: 0 0 0
Save, exit, open videoconfig.cfg and change the beginning (you can leave the long random number at the end, just focus on this part) to: -6 0 1920 1080 0 0 0 0
This will set your game to windowed mode, where it must remain. Do not press Alt+Enter accidentally, you'll regret it!

Launch the game exe (not launcher) and VOILA!

achievements, played time, overlay, cloud saves etc works with this method?

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Yes! Everything working great! Haven't gone into the steam overlay to try that, but everything else you ask works.

[DED_MAZAI]

first of all sorry for my english. I have done as it written and game started in window mode. Everything seems ok but in story mode there is NO dialogs or voices AT ALL. Nothing on the radio too. Only background music, car sound, gun fire but no voices. Even in cut where detective Norman comes to cafe. I see that they are skeaking but no voice... AAA project. Great job 2K. How this sound problem can be solwed? Thx.

[bingbean]

Already I am finished Fair play mission. Thanks for this solution. A can play on Win7.

[Madness]

I got the game working with the instructions on this thread, thanks again! I got to the racing mission, really trying if I can finish it with Classical difficulty, I have no idea if others have done that yet, it seems to be as difficult as it was in the original release before the patch :D My game actually crashed in a loading screen but I think that was just because of the game itself and nothing to do with Win7.

Steam Achievements also work just fine!

Other than that, how are the sounds for others? For me the audio works just fine but I don't seem to get the music low enough at all, at least not during cut scenes. Sometimes I can't hear almost anything they speak because of the music and I was just wondering if that is what happens with the game itself or because of this solution... You do get used to it really but at the times it's a bit annoying. In gameplay I think the sounds are normal but I still had to set the music to 3, everything else to 7 or 8 and leave dialog (and master volume of course) on 10.

And also another thing I'm not sure if it has something to do with my computer, GPU or settings but the edges of hair and things look bit off and dark areas have this grainy effect on them. Mainly the game looks really good but this is also something I need to google and check from the forums to see if it's like this for everyone and if there's something I can do to make the edges look more pleasant to look at.

[Syrieana]

Originally posted by The_Sentinel:

Originally posted by ☠Lord-=Darth_Vader=-☠:

You can put a download link for the windows version I see it only for linux

This is the link for version 1.7.1: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases

This version can be used for Windows as well, you only have to extract the dll files to your game directory and run the mafiadefinitiveedition.exe, and that's it!
As Todd Howard would put it: It just works! :cozybethesda:

Hi
i have read all this thread and i did exactly what it says above, start the game from the mde.exe but the game wont start at all
p.s the launcher says next to the game running for like couple seconds then it disappear, and nothing happen
only if i copy paste those 6 .dll files in x64 folder it wont start, but if i removed them it will start till the start story part then crash
i'm confused did i missed anything ??

[Jarda22]

Originally posted by Syrieana:

Originally posted by The_Sentinel:

This is the link for version 1.7.1: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases

This version can be used for Windows as well, you only have to extract the dll files to your game directory and run the mafiadefinitiveedition.exe, and that's it!
As Todd Howard would put it: It just works! :cozybethesda:

Hi
i have read all this thread and i did exactly what it says above, start the game from the mde.exe but the game wont start at all
p.s the launcher says next to the game running for like couple seconds then it disappear, and nothing happen
only if i copy paste those 6 .dll files in x64 folder it wont start, but if i removed them it will start till the start story part then crash
i'm confused did i missed anything ??

Try add the files after you change the windowed mode in the Options. The game works only in window (not in full screen).

[The_Sentinel]

Originally posted by Syrieana:

Originally posted by The_Sentinel:

This is the link for version 1.7.1: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases

This version can be used for Windows as well, you only have to extract the dll files to your game directory and run the mafiadefinitiveedition.exe, and that's it!
As Todd Howard would put it: It just works!

Hi
i have read all this thread and i did exactly what it says above, start the game from the mde.exe but the game wont start at all
p.s the launcher says next to the game running for like couple seconds then it disappear, and nothing happen
only if i copy paste those 6 .dll files in x64 folder it wont start, but if i removed them it will start till the start story part then crash
i'm confused did i missed anything ??

Try to start the game without the dlls first, go to Settings, and click Fullscreen off (so that it is in windowed mode). Then exit the game, put the dlls in the game directory, and start the game. Be sure to leave it in windowed mode (borderless works fine) because if you put it in fullscreen the game will crash.

[Madness]

I have talked with someone with the same issue - the game not starting after adding the .dll files. They have edited the .cfg files and the game is in windowed mode but it won't start at all. Without them they can open the game and access menu just like everyone else on Windows 7 could.

They found a piece of information from a mafiadefinitiveedition_dxgi file (found in the install folder of the game), saying this:

info: Game: mafiadefinitiveedition.exe
info: DXVK: v1.7.1
info: Built-in extension providers:
info: Win32 WSI
info: OpenVR
warn: OpenVR: Failed to locate module
info: Enabled instance extensions:
info: VK_KHR_surface
info: VK_KHR_win32_surface
err: DxvkInstance::createInstance: Failed to create Vulkan 1.1 instance

For comparison here is what my file says as I'm able to play the game just fine:

info: Game: mafiadefinitiveedition.exe
info: DXVK: v1.7.1
info: Built-in extension providers:
info: Win32 WSI
info: OpenVR
warn: OpenVR: Failed to locate module
info: Enabled instance extensions:
info: VK_KHR_get_surface_capabilities2
info: VK_KHR_surface
info: VK_KHR_win32_surface
info: Radeon RX 580 Series:
info: Driver: 2.0.154
info: Vulkan: 1.2.149
info: Memory Heap[0]:
info: Size: 7936 MiB
info: Flags: 0x3
info: Memory Type[0]: Property Flags = 0x1
info: Memory Heap[1]:
info: Size: 3789 MiB
info: Flags: 0x0
info: Memory Type[1]: Property Flags = 0x6
info: Memory Type[2]: Property Flags = 0x0
info: Memory Type[5]: Property Flags = 0xe
info: Memory Heap[2]:
info: Size: 256 MiB
info: Flags: 0x3
info: Memory Type[3]: Property Flags = 0x7
info: Memory Type[4]: Property Flags = 0x1
warn: DXGI: MakeWindowAssociation: Ignoring flags

So my guess is that it has something to do with the GPU (they have Radeon R9 380x, all recent drivers installed) and the .dll files, I just don't know how to solve this problem if it's so.

Syrieana, could you check what does your file say? Maybe there's a similar issue?

[vanois]

Originally posted by Madness:

err: DxvkInstance::createInstance: Failed to create Vulkan 1.1 instance

I had a similar error (1080 video card).
You need to update your video card driver to one that supports Vulcan

The_Sentinel, thanks for the solution

[Vlad50075]

still don't have a solution for the game to work in fullscreen mode on windows 7?

[The Nothing Man]

this is oddly a common issue
its got to do with mismatched vsync and refresh
there are ways around it if you have nvid inspector but.. it takes a bit of fiddling
tons of games have had this issue though not just this one
most of them have denuvo as well. so we cant mod it

but you can force stuff in inspector that overrides the game cfgs
either way its bordeless fullscreen so its pretty close to fullscreen atm