Remake is better than original imo

[dprog1995]

Decided to replay Original one after playing the remake and original one is in lots of ways inferior based on my experience.

1. In original game, gunplay is cover shooter without a cover machanic. You slowly go out of cover by tapping left/right and shoot enemies one by one. in remake combat is much more fun.(And you can use grenades which in original you couldn't and you have some destructible environments.)

2. The game is much more buggier in the original than the remake. In original the game loves to crash after some time and you have some main missions that are bugged.
That steal the truck mission is kinda buggy in the original game.(Sometimes, the truck won't come out, one time the driver wouldn't come out of it)
you also have 2 free ride extreme missions in OG version that the framerates higher than 20 makes them unwinnable.

3. In remake the race mission is much better designed.(You have 3 laps instead of 5, you don't instantly lose when you flip your car, you also have more chance at winning.)

4. Vehicle driving is much better in the remake. In original one, vehicles are too slow specially when you are driving up a slope.
In the race mission, one time my car's wheel went into the ground in the OG version and made me lose my car's balance and lose the race.

5. In original game, you have lots of repetitive "drive to Salieri bar" missions which the remake nerfed.(a great choice)

6. In the original you have a on rail shooting section which in the remake is much better.(And the remake added some extra ones which added more variety in mission design alongside allowing you to play the "kill Frank" mission in stealth way.)

7. In original game, the airport and harbor areas are too big and that results in adding some boring running in some parts.(example,the part where you have to get the plane tickets) in the remake those areas are smaller and less boring.

8. The city is much more alive in the remake compared to original one. In the original free ride mode, NPCs either walk around, drive around or sit on train.(Or get out of car)
In the remake NPCs have much more variety in their normal behavior
-One time in free ride, I saw a NPC that was peeing around a corner which was kinda funny.
-You have NPCs that read newspapers,talk to eachother,buying/selling sandwiches etc which these make Lonst Heaven more alive compared to original,
-You also have the radio stations and newspaper guys that talk about the events that happened in the game that make the game feel more alive.

9. In the original one, for some reason when you want to enter the car Tommy might not sit on the driver's seat because developers added the unnecessary feature of allowing you to seat on passenger seats. Remake removed that useless feature.

10. Shooting while driving is much better and more useful in the remake compared to original. And you can actually jump out of vehicle while driving which the original one didn't have that.

11. In remake you don't have loading screens whenever you go outside of Salieri bar or outside of city.

12. In remake you can skip the dialogues(Such as talking to Ralphie dialogues) while in the original, the dialogues are unskippable.

13. In the remake, you have motorcycles which you didn't have in original.

14. In original, whenever you fall into the water you just die. In the remake you don't.

15. The Lucas missions ruined the pacing of the main story.(And players were forced to play them since those gave Tommy this ability to enter more cars)
Remake did a good job removing them from the main story.(And I don't get some fans hating them being removed from the game. They weren't that special and were repetitive in the end.)

16. Remake has a difficulty setting original doesn't.(Other than the race mission)

17. In remake some parts of the story are better. Sarah was more developed and had more screen time. Sam had more character rather than just being an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ backstabber. You actually see some scenes of the Salieri and Morello gang fighting each other. You have the "police arresting Salieri's gang scene" and "Frank's funeral" that weren't in the original.

18. Remake added some parts that weren't in original game.(Driving drunk Paulie home, following the burning plane, bringing Sam to hospital)
and some missions also felt better.(Such as escape the church chase which in the original that chase didn't existed since you could just hide from the cops until your wanted level reaches 0.)

19. In remake you can refill your HP with ambulances. Original doesn't have that.

20. In remake you can open up the full map and even put markers while in original you can't.(YOu also have a noir mode which isn't in original)

21.When police tries to arrest you you have a chance to escape them handcuffing you which isn't doable in original.

The original is better in some ways though.

1. you have more secret missions

2. You can ride a train or those cable cars which you can't in the remake.

3. You have the gas station guy refilling your car which isn't in the remake.

4. I prefer some dialogues of the original over the remake ones.

5. you can hear soundtracks while you are on foot.

6. You don't have forced walking sections in original.

7. In Free ride you have more options to change compared to remake.(Such as pedestarian/police/vehicle density)

8. You can actually earn money in original free ride by doing different things.(Killing Mafia guys,speeding up,driving people around with a taxi) and use that money to buy guns.

I personally prefer the remake over original.

[vese91]

Originally posted by dprog1995:

I personally prefer the remake over original.

We absolutely do not care about your horrible taste in videogames

[Stan]

Originally posted by vese91:

Originally posted by dprog1995:

I personally prefer the remake over original.

We absolutely do not care about your horrible taste in videogames

Let the guy like games he wants.

[2112]

Ha ha ha.

[2112]

Originally posted by Stan:

Originally posted by vese91:

We absolutely do not care about your horrible taste in videogames

Let the guy like games he wants.

Why couldnt we have the game we wanted,you know,one just like the original which is what this was supposed to be?.They might just as well have made mafia 4 instead.They took out a lot of what made the 1st game so great,and that was a big disappointment.

[Stan]

Originally posted by 2112:

Originally posted by Stan:

Let the guy like games he wants.

Why couldnt we have the game we wanted,you know,one just like the original which is what this was supposed to be?.They might just as well have made mafia 4 instead.They took out a lot of what made the 1st game so great,and that was a big disappointment.

Lets answer question wit a question.

Why aren't creators allow to add some of their own ideas and different point of views when it comes to remaking and older game? I don't see no one complaining when they remake RE1 even they took out the hilarious bad voice acting.

True, they took something out but do you really want to like drive back from mission area just to start a new one? It adds realism yes but after a while it gets a bit old.

just becasue you don't like the remake, doesn't mean everybody should hate it. I personally likes it different take the story.

[Oops, I Crapped My Pants]

Originally posted by Stan:

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just becasue you don't like the remake, doesn't mean everybody should hate it.

yes it does. anyone who disagrees with me is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Stan]

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:

Originally posted by Stan:

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just becasue you don't like the remake, doesn't mean everybody should hate it.

yes it does. anyone who disagrees with me is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

So that makes 36.086.

[Oops, I Crapped My Pants]

Originally posted by Stan:

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:

yes it does. anyone who disagrees with me is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

So that makes 36.086.

Just accept that you, along side OP, have a penchant for cringe.

Also cope, seethe and dilate. This game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and no amount of cope will change that fact

[Stan]

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:

Originally posted by Stan:

So that makes 36.086.

Just accept that you, along side OP, have a penchant for cringe.

Also cope, seethe and dilate. This game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and no amount of cope will change that fact

Then i am. Game is good they way it is. I don't hold my nostalgia goggles with superglue.

[Oops, I Crapped My Pants]

Originally posted by Stan:

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:

Just accept that you, along side OP, have a penchant for cringe.

Also cope, seethe and dilate. This game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and no amount of cope will change that fact

Then i am. Game is good they way it is. I don't hold my nostalgia goggles with superglue.

Game is objectively bad. You continue to be wrong. You can like the game, just realize you like a terrible, bastardized, watered down, abomination of a game

[vese91]

Geesas, are you able to understand that IT IS NOT A MATTER OF NOSTALGIA?
For the last f-u-c-k-i-n-g time: leaving aside all the changes to the story, missions etc... the major problem is DEVS CUTTED OUT AT LEAST 40% OF THE ORIGINAL GAME FOR NO REASON.

THE 40% OF THE ORIGINAL GAME IS MISSING OR REPLACED WITH CUTSCENE

If you do not know how proper remakes are made or you did not play the original game, keep your mouth shut.

[Stan]

Originally posted by vese91:

Geesas, are you able to understand that IT IS NOT A MATTER OF NOSTALGIA?
For the last f-u-c-k-i-n-g time: leaving aside all the changes to the story, missions etc... the major problem is DEVS CUTTED OUT AT LEAST 40% OF THE ORIGINAL GAME FOR NO REASON.

THE 40% OF THE ORIGINAL GAME IS MISSING OR REPLACED WITH CUTSCENE

If you do not know how proper remakes are made or you did not play the original game, keep your mouth shut.

And yet again i ask. Why aren't developers allow to introduce their own ideas?

Also beside few missing characters, everything from original made it to remake. Even half the dialogue made it, just praised differently or said by different person. Some of the game cutscenes that happen in this game, happen also in original but you just can move your character.

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:

Originally posted by Stan:

Then i am. Game is good they way it is. I don't hold my nostalgia goggles with superglue.

Game is objectively bad. You continue to be wrong. You can like the game, just realize you like a terrible, bastardized, watered down, abomination of a game

And just like that people are different. If you can't accept that people are allow to have different opinion on things then i'm sorry.

[vese91]

Originally posted by Stan:

And yet again i ask. Why aren't developers allow to introduce their own ideas?

Ah, nowadays cutting content means introducing your "own ideas"? LMAO

Originally posted by Stan:

Also beside few missing characters, everything from original made it to remake.

You did not play the original or maybe you have a short memory: in addition to Tonino, Joe and Yellow Pete, all the Luca's side quests are missing and also a lot of missions of the free-ride extreme mode are missing. Furthermore they substituted the bossfight against Sergio Morello with a cutscene.

On top of that, the structure of almost every mission has been oversimplified: in the original game you had to understand with which elements of the environment interact and in which order to complete the mission, in the "remake" everything is brain-dead guided.

Graphics and animations are the only things in which Mafia Remake is superior, the rest is objectively worse

[Stan]

Originally posted by vese91:

Originally posted by Stan:

And yet again i ask. Why aren't developers allow to introduce their own ideas?

Ah, nowadays cutting content means introducing your "own ideas"? LMAO

In sort of, yes. you take something out and add something new. otherwise it would be copypaste but i guess that what people wanted.

Originally posted by Stan:

Also beside few missing characters, everything from original made it to remake.

You did not play the original or maybe you have a short memory: in addition to Tonino, Joe and Yellow Pete, all the Luca's side quests are missing and also a lot of missions of the free-ride extreme mode are missing. Furthermore they substituted the bossfight against Sergio Morello with a cutscene.

On top of that, the structure of almost every mission has been oversimplified: in the original game you had to understand with which elements of the environment interact and in which order to complete the mission, in the "remake" everything is brain-dead guided.

Graphics and animations are the only things in which Mafia Remake is superior, the rest is objectively worse [/quote]

Idiot Joe, yellow Pete Big Stan, ♥♥♥♥, was removed yes. Would their existence have add any value on the mission they are in? Maybe but you can easily live with out them.

Luca's mission are still in there, just presented in different way, instead of needing to doing them in that specific mission, you can now do them when ever you want, even in free ride mode. Also no need to do some random mission in order to get information where the car is that you can steal.

Original have 19 freeride missions. De have 12. That is no a huge change.

Bossfight with morello again was one of thous where they add different idea. In original you have this whole port to explore and think about where enemies going to show up, where they shoot now ect.. while in remake its just pretty much straight line. Also bossfight still technically does happen. You have to shoot him in order to trigger the final cut scene, only difference is that in original after you shoot him, you can fully skip the scene where you look hes dead body, while in remake you kill him during the cut scene.

"On top of that, the structure of almost every mission has been oversimplified: in the original game you had to understand with which elements of the environment interact and in which order to complete the mission"

And that is the fun idea with new ideas. I have play original game so many times that i can clearly see where the enemies allways are, how can i do this mission differently, i literally nearly remember everything from original.

Now instead remake using this same idea with same things doesn't make it really a new experience when you allready know how to do every mission before the game have even come out, and this happens in very first mission, instead of just one morello car, there is several. instead 5 laps in race, there is now 3 and opponents crashes, instead doing visiting reach people completely stealth, now the alarm goes off. This makes the game more fun when you don't expect it to happen.

Are these ideas then good or do they work is all ways debatable but i like to keep open mind and see if they work. In this game, most them to do and rest i can live without.

[Oops, I Crapped My Pants]

Stan, stop. You are overdosing on cope. The game sucks. It is objectively bad. Yet you like it. Admit to yourself you hate terrible taste and move on. You will not win this big buy