Who thought this "racing level" was a good idea? Fire them!

[Soli]

Completely irrelevant to the game and plot, this isn't a racing game, and the controls are god awful for PC/M&KB. Ruined the game for me, as I'm now locked out of the campaign behind a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ level that's representative of an -entirely different genre-. Plus the "racecar" is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

If I didn't buy this game through another vendor, I'd be refunding right now. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Big Dave]

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Except on racing games

Hence why this whole thing is an issue, because mafia isn't a racing game, yet it forces this ♥♥♥♥

You've had 20 years to prepare for it. No point in crying now.

[c Z p]

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When game developers make awful game design choices, people stop playing that game. Who wulda thunk it

Yeah, yeah, you already failed, goodbye.

What you fail to realize is that cheating proves you're a bad player. Rather, you're not a 'player' at all in fact. Besides, the achievement's name is 'Made Man', think about it.
This game's 3rd level (the race) is completely wrong. And don't forget that you're required to play a sublevel where you're supposed to mess the top racer's car the night before the race so you'd stand a chance. In 'classic' difficulty this is a huge let down.
But a bigger let down is 2K and Steam allowing anyone to cheat the game files and getting away with it. Possibly, only 0.2% of people owning this cheevo did it legit and are pretty good racers/ dedicated players. Everyone else, keep dreaming that they were 'Made Men'
Accepting that it's almost impossible to race like that makes one a far greater gamer/ 'man' than any cheater, liar and poser is ever going to be.

Look, I've completed every other level and aspect of this beautiful game on classic. Infiltrations, gunshots, hide and seek with 5-star police or even chases around town with Morello's ppl. The race is just there to spring the cheaters out.

[PsyWarVeteran]

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What you fail to realize is that cheating proves you're a bad player. Rather, you're not a 'player' at all in fact. Besides, the achievement's name is 'Made Man', think about it.
This game's 3rd level (the race) is completely wrong. And don't forget that you're required to play a sublevel where you're supposed to mess the top racer's car the night before the race so you'd stand a chance. In 'classic' difficulty this is a huge let down.
But a bigger let down is 2K and Steam allowing anyone to cheat the game files and getting away with it. Possibly, only 0.2% of people owning this cheevo did it legit and are pretty good racers/ dedicated players. Everyone else, keep dreaming that they were 'Made Men':smugjester:
Accepting that it's almost impossible to race like that makes one a far greater gamer/ 'man' than any cheater, liar and poser is ever going to be.

Look, I've completed every other level and aspect of this beautiful game on classic. Infiltrations, gunshots, hide and seek with 5-star police or even chases around town with Morello's ppl. The race is just there to spring the cheaters out.

I'm not reading this essay, but I guess you are calling me a cheater?

I finished the original game's race many times and just minutes ago finished this game on Classic mode and did the race legit. I was simply telling the guy to stop complaining and cheat if he is that bothered with it.

You got me all wrong and wrote a wall of text for no reason.

[c Z p]

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I'm not reading this essay, but I guess you are calling me a cheater?

I finished the original game's race many times and just minutes ago finished this game on Classic mode and did the race legit. I was simply telling the guy to stop complaining and cheat if he is that bothered with it.

You got me all wrong and wrote a wall of text for no reason.

You call that a wall? Okay then, I shouldn't have posted at all, my bad.

[PsyWarVeteran]

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You call that a wall? Okay, then, I shouldn't have posted at all, my bad.

Just saying, sometimes it's best to understand the situation before jumping to conclusions.

[c Z p]

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Just saying, sometimes it's best to understand the situation before jumping to conclusions.

Oh, I understand perfectly, don't worry.

[Soli]

All the fanbois in here bending over backwards to defend ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game design and suggesting bandaids, instead of just admitting that this level is out of place and not a good aspect of the game. The fact that everybody immediately jumps to suggesting cheating and explaining how to cheat, shows that this is an issue

If driving and racing are a "major" feature of the game, then why is there an option to skip "non-essential drives"?

If you're not able to look at something you enjoy, and admit the flaws in it, then you're just being biased and blind. Believe it or not, you can enjoy something and accept that it's not perfect!

"You've had 20 years to prepare for this" What do you think this is, real life? 20 years to prepare for what? It's a game bud lol

[PsyWarVeteran]

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If driving and racing are a "major" feature of the game, then why is there an option to skip "non-essential drives"?

They knew people like you were going to complain on forums.

Mafia was ALWAYS a game that prioritized cars. 90% of the time you are driving, the car physics were very complex and intricate, there were many options about how the cars should behave on the menu and there was even a carcyclopedia. You could tell the developers were car fanatics.

You saying how cars and driving shouldn't be a major feature only shows your ignorance and makes it clear you didn't played the original.

Either get good or get out.

[c Z p]

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All the fanbois in here

They're not fanboys at all, either. They're just ("completionist") posers that do it badly too.

[Big Dave]

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All the fanbois in here bending over backwards to defend ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game design and suggesting bandaids, instead of just admitting that this level is out of place and not a good aspect of the game. The fact that everybody immediately jumps to suggesting cheating and explaining how to cheat, shows that this is an issue

If driving and racing are a "major" feature of the game, then why is there an option to skip "non-essential drives"?

If you're not able to look at something you enjoy, and admit the flaws in it, then you're just being biased and blind. Believe it or not, you can enjoy something and accept that it's not perfect!

"You've had 20 years to prepare for this" What do you think this is, real life? 20 years to prepare for what? It's a game bud lol

I only started playing it yesterday lol.

Great game though! Really enjoying the story line, almost about to finish it.

Have fun with your moaning.

[Big Dave]

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All the fanbois in here

They're not fanboys at all, either. They're just ("completionist") posers that do it badly too.

Why because we used a controller for a race?

[c Z p]

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They're not fanboys at all, either. They're just ("completionist") posers that do it badly too.

Why because we used a controller for a race?

Easy there, I'm not talking to you or about you.

[Soli]

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If driving and racing are a "major" feature of the game, then why is there an option to skip "non-essential drives"?

They knew people like you were going to complain on forums.

Mafia was ALWAYS a game that prioritized cars. 90% of the time you are driving, the car physics were very complex and intricate, there were many options about how the cars should behave on the menu and there was even a carcyclopedia. You could tell the developers were car fanatics.

You saying how cars and driving shouldn't be a major feature only shows your ignorance and makes it clear you didn't played the original.

Either get good or get out.

Not according to how the game *developers* tagged and described the game in the store description, bud. For reference, here are the tags they used:
Action
Open World
Story Rich
Crime
Classic

Nowhere did they use a racing tag or describe the game as such.

I don't care if the devs were car fanatics or not, that's not why I bought the game, simple. I never played the original, imagine that! Not everyone has played every game ever!

"get gud or get out" is a ♥♥♥♥ attitude to have. Keep pretending that this awfully designed level is good if that's what makes you happy, doesn't make you any less wrong

Here's a really big life lesson for you: just because you like something, doesn't mean it's perfect. Refusing to see the flaws in things you enjoy just makes you come off as ignorant

[Soli]

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All the fanbois in here

They're not fanboys at all, either. They're just ("completionist") posers that do it badly too.

They're just the guys that like to make things needlessly difficult in a stupid way so they can gatekeep their hobby to feel good about themselves

inb4 another "git gud", I play on the hardest difficulty, there's a difference between organic difficulty and forced difficulty. This level ain't organic, it's not even the same genre as the rest of the game. It's like saying I Wanna Be The Guy's "difficult level design" is good game design

[Big Dave]

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onOpen WorldStory RichCrimeClassic

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They knew people like you were going to complain on forums.

Mafia was ALWAYS a game that prioritized cars. 90% of the time you are driving, the car physics were very complex and intricate, there were many options about how the cars should behave on the menu and there was even a carcyclopedia. You could tell the developers were car fanatics.

You saying how cars and driving shouldn't be a major feature only shows your ignorance and makes it clear you didn't played the original.

Either get good or get out.

Not according to how the game *developers* tagged and described the game in the store description, bud. For reference, here are the tags they used:
Action
Open World
Story Rich
Crime
Classic

Nowhere did they use a racing tag or describe the game as such.

I don't care if the devs were car fanatics or not, that's not why I bought the game, simple. I never played the original, imagine that! Not everyone has played every game ever!

"get gud or get out" is a ♥♥♥♥ attitude to have. Keep pretending that this awfully designed level is good if that's what makes you happy, doesn't make you any less wrong

Here's a really big life lesson for you: just because you like something, doesn't mean it's perfect. Refusing to see the flaws in things you enjoy just makes you come off as ignorant

The core play mechanics are 20 years old lol