''Below 50 on Metacritic and Mostly Negative Reviews''

[J4MESOX4D]

Wonder what happened to that minority of users who were spending hours in this forum each day saying how terrible this game will be received by the media and by Steam purchasers alike with a well below-average rating possibly worse than Mafia 3..

It's all gone very quiet and even one of them now has the mouse icon next to their name so after months of nitpicking and negativity, they went and bought the game under the table

I'm not gonna name and shame or pull up any classic quotes as they know full well who they are and how silly they look. Whilst the game is not perfect, it is certainly redemption for Hangar 13 and something great to play. I will never understand why people spend hours upon hours in forums being so negative and getting so upset about other people's optimism.

This game is great news for fans of the series and its future and it should be celebrated rather than barraged in the most petty and baseless fashion. I'm just waiting to see how many others buckle and buy the game now that were whinging relentlessly on the daily

[mommy? (STEVE)]

Първоначално публикувано от JellySnek:

Първоначално публикувано от Samz:

Yeah but they break the simulation aspect by having the AI cheat.
if you get too far ahead, they'll gain double-speed by rubber banding, this wasn't in the original and it actually means you have to intentionally slow down or risk them getting faster than you.

Yeah, I get that. I also understand why they did it. It's meant to be uber hard. I appreciate it.

Artificial difficult is not difficulty. anyways, i'm happy you're having fun. i can't recommend this game for a lot of people. But since you can lower the difficulty for the mission ig uess it's not as bad.
to win the mission in hard mode i had to not race at all
I had to use the ram key constantly and smash into the other cars as i turned the corner, it wasnt a race at all, i had to play bumper cars... I feel like the dev didnt play this mission on hard at all, it was really awful.

[Alabeo]

Първоначално публикувано от Samz:

Първоначално публикувано от JellySnek:

Yeah, I get that. I also understand why they did it. It's meant to be uber hard. I appreciate it.

Personally it's kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Any new player (or even simply someone who's unfamilar with AI rubber banding) will essentially be stuck here til' they play poorly enough the AI doesn't cheat if they're on easy.

Punishing the player for playing well, in a gimmick mission that's one-of-a-kind is not good game design.

Yeah I get your point. I do disagree with it, but I respect it.

[erikms]

Първоначално публикувано от GR / RG:

Personally my negative review is because of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ racing mission, it was awful in the first game, it's even worse in this one.
and the extremely poor graphics optimization, once you get out of cutscenes everyone looks like a clay doll, for no reason.
I can't recommend a game in this state.

I have no issue with the race level, no issue with the graphics, no issue with anything regarding cutscenes. The game runs and looks awesome in 2560x1440 - 144hz. So maybe you should try to get control over how to drive a car, before tryihg to be in a race. And maybe you need some hardware that will play games properly. And you mainly think the game is bad because of 1 race level? You are a dumbass and need some help.

[Ganger]

It's how it is in the gaming, people say one thing and do something else. I have seen this too many times now. So its very hard to believe random people on the internet anymore.

I have read threads were gamers bashing the hell out of a game, the developers or the publisher but still end up with the game in their library. After weeks and months of saying 'No buy', they bought day one! what gives ?

Why do you think developers don't listen to us gamers, because we are mostly hypocrites that like to jump on the bandwagon.

I only really started taking noticed during the COD MW2 boycott. Many were saying, never buy, never play and guest what, the so called leaders of the boycott were playing the game day one. I just believe everything fell apart for us gamers at that moment in time. Devs then knew, we are all talk and no action.

Better to sit on the fence and don't commit to anything, this way you can't be accused of being a hypocrite.

[Zyryanoff]

Okay, I am the one who checked the game and I see a lot of bad things.
Good metacritics reviews mostly based on hype from day one. So don't tell that the game is very good.
My main upsets are connected with complete misunderstanding - how is it possible:
+ to invest so much budget and worktime into visuals, cars, voice acting, characters (i prefer old serious types but new have their things and made not that bad)
BUT
- to make the city you've modelled for so long such an empty place,
- to not implement things that can easily be implemented (because of m2 and m3 similar systems) like outfit changes, small interactables like drinking cup of coffee, etc
- to make shooter gameplay pretty average, melee is a mess.
- and finally - to turn some important plot twists into something stupid. Let me copypaste some thoughts I shared with my friends in discussion.

it is connected with some plot details so SPOILER ALERT if you don't know Mafia 1 timeline of events.
They've rewritten a serious twist.
Check it out: why Paulie decided to rob a bank and Tom agreed in the original?
One of the reasons if not the main one was that Don Salieri lied to them about "cigars" they stole earlier at the Port - Paulie checked one of the broken boxes and found jewels inside, remember?
Don said nothing about it so they took this as kinda treachery.
This was probably one of the reasons for working on their own (though Paulie said about splitting share with boss later).

In the new one it happens differently and IMHO worse: Don orders to take cigars from guarded Port, Tom minds that benefits are too small for such a risk. Then Salieri says: "Tom you are a smart guy! Its not just cigars. There are jewels inside!"
So he says about it! Check further:
HE KNOWS THAT THEY KNOW
THAT INSIDE THE CIGAR BOXES
THERE ARE JEWELS, right?

What happens next?
During the mission they steal cigars and return to the warehouse where,
AS THEY KNOW THAT INSIDE THERE ARE JEWELS,
Paulie checks one of the boxes.
AND WHAT A BANDIT WON'T LOOK AT JEWELS, right? Especially when one of the boxes is broken? Especially when Salieri said nothing kinda "not to check boxes" (yeah, that would be supa-suspicious).
So Paulie opens a cigar box and finds out there is dope inside, drugs.
So Salieri lied to them (as we understand further, Sam maybe like it was in the original with jewels, knew this).

The thing that completely pisses me off that in the original THEY WERE KINDA angry at Salieri for breaking the share rule.
Here its not the same because:
1) Salieri TOLD THEM THAT THERE IS SOMETHING COOL in the boxes,
dope or jewels... right? both sound like kinda big deal. Salieri anyway needed to pay them a lot for JEWELS (after selling dope), I guess. So maybe he lied... but at ANY CASE THEY probably got their big score.
Otherwise it would be pretty stupid to tell your guys about whats inside.
In the original he pays them as for a cigar job, capiche? They get upset and feel deceived.

2) Have Salieri really though that his gangsters wouldn't try to check the boxes after HE SPOILERED WHAT'S IN THERE?
I am sure that the original twist was cooler - he just didn't tell them and thats it.
Chance of NOT checking a regular cigar box (nothing interesting) is far more higher than checking a BOX FULL OF JEWELS
"I JUST WANNA TAKE A LOOK" and all that stuff
they are criminals after all.
not very smart logic by the scriptwriter, rly.

In the original the situation that led to "Bank job, Sam kills Paulie, Tom kills Sam and snitch at others" started from small thing where Salieri broke the rules, cheated their loyalty, showed his greed. If you ask me that was a real classic masterpiece twist when the ideal family starts to sink in jealousy and unrealized ambitions.
With changing that twist the whole bank job in the New One looks more like Paulie & Tom's fault thing. Cause if they got money from jewels (dope) why to rob a bank? Yeah, cause Paulie want a pizzeria.

PS And I am not talking you about Amendment 19 as a reason to feel guilty for killed politician, or the toxic scene with Ralph at the beginning, or Running Man mission being an episode that will be forgotten in 5 minutes after, or the final speech where Tom's words doesn't reach my heart at all. In the original he was kinda sad. The main canvas of the story pretends to be the old one but in details it shatters like a bad theater play of good literature piece.

[mommy? (STEVE)]

Първоначално публикувано от erikms:

Първоначално публикувано от GR / RG:

Personally my negative review is because of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ racing mission, it was awful in the first game, it's even worse in this one.
and the extremely poor graphics optimization, once you get out of cutscenes everyone looks like a clay doll, for no reason.
I can't recommend a game in this state.

I have no issue with the race level, no issue with the graphics, no issue with anything regarding cutscenes. The game runs and looks awesome in 2560x1440 - 144hz. So maybe you should try to get control over how to drive a car, before tryihg to be in a race. And maybe you need some hardware that will play games properly. And you mainly think the game is bad because of 1 race level? You are a dumbass and need some help.

I'm playing on a 1080ti with everything maxed, maybe you should get glasses?