Bugs, annoyances, fun breaker, things that should get fixed

[Aaskereija]

I loved Mafia II 2010 and as i heard there will be coming remakes for all three Mafia games, i did a research about them and found out i got Mafia II Definitive Edition for free! So i read comments, and critics about bugs, errors, annoyances, performance issues and so on but i wanted to try
but i really had fun playing it! YES i really had! I can forgive bugs and problems if they are not badly game breaking. And because i wanted to know if there are really so much problems with this game i decided to make a list parenthetically. And oh boy, that list got massive...
But still, i had fun with the game, and i really have to say: None of the mentioned problems in my list are so intense that you can't enjoy the game. The game never crashed* and you must have really bad luck to call a game breaking bug

i played the Definitive mulitple times to fail prove my own list, there are also some notes or mentions about specific things in this list, because i thought they are worth to mention. I hope some Dev my stumble across this and read it.

Feel free to discuss, but be nice :)



Only PhysX related bugs

- PhysX doesn't work correctly on highest settings. Workaround: Delete "Cloth" folder from C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Mafia II Definitive Edition\EDIT\APEX


PhysX Workaround related bugs

-- If you delete the "Cloth" folder, other DLC clothes & cars appear in your game
-- World objects like paper sheets, scrap, bottles starts to flicker while moving
-- Smoke and Steam graphic may flicker and aren't constant anymore.
-- Vito's clothes wobble if you stop moving
-- Tie's which supposed to have PhysX, seems to have no PhysX at all


Other bugs/issues/mentionables/"nice if it would be fixed"

- In my first playthrough only the "2K linked account awarded" clothes where in Vitos wardrobe. In the second playthrough all DLC Items are available
- In my first playthrough most of the DLC cars where missing. In the second playthrough all DLC Items are available
- In my first playthrough the special gift cars for linking my 2K account where missing. Still missing in the second run
- The side missions of Brusky and Derek which got cut out of the final game could have added to the Definitive Edition. Would have added 5-6 Hours more playtime to the maingame and would've added way more "open world" feeling
- There is a possibility if you klick on "2k Account linked" symbol your game crashes*
- Tunnel lights are too bright and glare your sight at night while driving - https://prnt.sc/t5awdg / https://prnt.sc/t5b3kj
- NPCs follower often stop at some point and it takes some time till they catch up
- Some NPCs who follow your character rarely just spawn in your car instead of getting in the regular way
- Vito doesn't leave the Aim mode correctly, it only stops itself after a longer period of time
- Still no garage tuning like in Mafia II for PlayStation/XBox
- The 3rd soldier in "The Old Country" can get stuck in the first doorframe of the San Celeste Town Hall after Vito throwed the grenade. You can push the NPC to get him back on track
- Walking and running is mixed up, Vito runs all the time instead of walking. If you set walking, Vito start running again after cutscenes or leaving interieurs
- In the last cutscene of "The Old Country" the subtitle doesn't work correctly some lines of the italian soldier are missing
- In "Home Sweet Home" as Vito walks to his mothers apartment, someone throw a vase out of the window which broke in 3 pieces, 2 disappear and one stays. This bug already happen in the original Mafia 2
- In "Home Sweet Home" there is a small pallet infront of the house, Vito can get stuck here. This never happened in the original game
- In "Home Sweet Home" in the alley to the apartment of Vitos mother you approach an old lady smoking, everytime she smokes, the cigarette fume stops and start again
- The "Duty" clothes of the "War Hero" DLC with the patches on the arms look like to have the same low graphic as in the original game
- Some whiskey bottles look like made out of solid gold instead of thicker glass - https://prnt.sc/t6fwb3
- It rarely happens that your car stuck in the ground with its tires and if you approach it, the car pops out of the ground - https://prnt.sc/t5l6ho
- For some reason the exhaust smoke turns red if your car idle with running engine - https://prnt.sc/t58vqb
- Some tires get flat after a while, never noticed this so explicit in the original game - https://prnt.sc/t58vqb
- In Chapter 3 Derek's eating movement doesn't fit well, his fork is in the air and his knife is too low in the table. Also a known "ugliness" in the original game
- Not a bug but a missed opportunity for an archievement in chapter 3 as Steve gives Vito the job to load a truck. If you do it till your character stop from itself, it would be funny to get an award like "at least, you have tried"
- many important objects still have their original graphics which gives an odd look
- Fist fights in Hard mode still way to easy
- Steering in "Normal" mode with WASD is hard to control
- You can't look around much while driving with Xbox controller because the camera snaps back to its original position very fast. It isn't much of an issue while looking with mouse
- Cigarettes sometimes float or are not connected to the mouth properly - https://prnt.sc/t59912
- Voice audio volume not persistent in cutscenes, sometimes its very quiet sometime its very loud, regardless of your settings
- Maria Agnello is the only NPC co-driver who doesn't complain if you run over red lights
- In Chapter 3 at "Enemy of the State" if you park your car infront of the house of Maria Agnello, sometimes she just spawn in your car after you're back in after the cutscene
- In the mission "Enemy of the State" Vito can kill a cop on a chair, this leads to a number of animation bugs - https://prnt.sc/t5akuf & https://prnt.sc/t5al1h If you try to stealth-kill the sitting NPC, he will stand up like if he see you, then act like in the pictures then fell down and is dead
- There are way less Museum Guards in Mafia II Definitve Edition as in Mafia II from 2010, even in Hard Mode. In total three, in the original there are 5 guard even in easy mode
- Some characters tend to squint slightly in cutscenes
- Fuel station interieurs load very late even on highest settings
- If you look at Skyscrapers from a further distance, the building lights flicker if you move your mouse - https://prnt.sc/t5az5v
- Sometimes parked cars bump upwards a bit if you approach them from distance
- Starting at 80kmh/49mph you will experience graphic glitches as flickering street lights and shadows in the distance and blurred surroundings which is sometimes blurred sometimes not
- In Chapter 4 "Murphys Law" there is no environment sound when O'Neil and his Gang crash in the jewelry store, you only hear the voice audio of Joe, Vito and O'Neil
- In Chapter 5 after the fight with the guy who crashed into the hookers car she talks to you her eyes doesn't blink or move
- The trunk of the "Roller GL300" always stays a crack wide open
- Food in cutscenes are still just plain flat graphics without any texture
- Something is wrong with Luca Garino's lips - https://prnt.sc/t5c044
- There is a very bad transition between Joe's chest and his neck - https://prnt.sc/t5c0yp
- Not a bug but its somewhat disappointing to see an empty trunk after Harry mentions there are "a bunch of thousand rounds in there"
- Antennas on some cars just look like a graphic glitch without any texture
- If you turn off VSYNC some cutscenes will have glitches at the lower screen area
- In Chapter 6 in the prison cutscene, the guard with the club doesn't blink, no eye movement and he squint. In the second part of the cutscene as the newcomer walks into the room the guards eyes act normal again
- At the prison barber, the same prison guard character have no eye blinking or movement again - https://prnt.sc/t5ckyd
- Same prison guard character, in the hallway, still no eye blinking or movement - https://prnt.sc/t5clq0
- In Chapter 6 at the cutscene before the fist fight with O'Neil you can see a normal dressed old man - https://prnt.sc/t5cnta
- If you use the cheat "one-hit kill" during your first fight against O'Neil you break the game because it's supposed that Vito lose
- Inmate "Chris" have no face movement at all, no eye or mouth movement - https://prnt.sc/t5crft
- Missed oppurtunity for another archivement in Chapter 6 as you can do trial fights with "Al", like for "you trained over a certain period" or "no pain no gain - you took the chance to train with Al"
- Once again the Prison Guard character who pick you up for work have no eye movement or blinking. As he talks to the Galante Goon, his eyes work
- After the fight against the black fighter, Galante gives Vito something but there is nothing in his hand
- There is a possibility that the cutscene that show Vito's coming home from prison skip itself after some seconds in the second playthrough
- In Chapter 7 in the Stripclub this hooker character have eyelid issues - https://prnt.sc/t5da8g
- Also in the strip club, no eye movement, no blinking - https://prnt.sc/t5daow
- Absolutely creepy hooker (no eye movement) - https://prnt.sc/t5ihny
- There is a possibility that the second part of the Stripclub cutscene skip itself after some seconds in the second playthrough
- A weird shadow appeard for no reason on the left side of the "Roller GL300" and was gone after some playtime - https://prnt.sc/t5hzfj
- An annoying clicking noise can be heard since this weird shadow sticks to the "Roller GL300"
- In my second playthrough i get sometimes randomly attacked by citizens, never experienced this in the original Mafia II
- Feels like 90% of the time the Police gives a ♥♥♥♥ about your driving behavior, they don't care about speeding, crashing or stealing cars next to them as long as it's not in their driving lane
- The game have some issues with its Post-AA and MSAA implementation on some cars, trucks and rarely objects - https://prnt.sc/t5itm2 / https://prnt.sc/t5izgi
- There are two occasions in the game (at Chapter 8 after destroying the Crazy Horse and in Chapter 13 after the shooting in the Tong meth labour), the FPS can drop to ~15 FPS in that area. I think because of too many objects not getting deleted correctly
- In Chapter 9 in the sewer, Vito pushes planks with his feet forwards
- In Chapter 11 in the cutscene as Vito talks to Eddie Scarpa to introduce Henry, Eddie's eyes acting strange for a second in some situations
- There are some unnatural hair shadows throughout the game in some cutscenes which makes no sense sometimes, because the light source is infront of the characters, so there is nothing which could cast them
- In Fist fights the camera angle often stucks behind Vito and block your view
- In Chapter 11 as the O'Neill Gang set Vito's house on fire, you can stay in your bathroom forever because it doesn't burn and nobody attacks you there
- Sometimes in "Hill of Tara" the first bar stool magically stands on two legs or destroys itself during the cutscene
- After the "Hill of Tara" mission, there is a possibility that Joe stops your car in front of his apartment in the middle of the street, walk away and ends the mission task - https://prnt.sc/t6g7bo
- Parked cars can float in the air and are only falling down if you hit them - https://prnt.sc/t6gldj
- Hats can bug through Vitos head in cutscenes
- In Chapter 12 as the group goes to the loan shark, the door guy's eyes are just white
- Bruno's money have it's original texture which looks very badly low textured
- The briefcase model used throughout the game has its old texture and looks not very good
- In the first cutscene of Chapter 13 the hooker in the bathtub has no facial movement at all
- The hooker reading in the chair doesn't blink and the magazine moves a little through her breasts
- The Hooker in the bathtub doesn't blink
- Henry's blood hovers very clearly above the ground
- In Chapter 14 Vito stands in the bed sometimes or the animation doesn't work properly - https://prnt.sc/t6i61w
- Joe attacks citizens because they are greaser gang members. That never happened in the original game - https://prnt.sc/t6if70
- In Chapter 14 as Vito walks with Derek and the boys to the shipyard, some of them buging around - https://prnt.sc/t6ine1
- After the fight against Derek there is a possibility that you can't collect the money from the table because the game thinks there is still an enemy alive
- After the Cutscene where Joe goes missing, it happens that the same voice audio file plays multiple times
- In the mission "Stairway to Heaven" the voice audio files after Vito an Joe left the building are played several times in a row
- In Chapter 15 in the cutscene with Leo Galante, the characters eyes are stuck at the left corner - https://prnt.sc/t6ji9x
- In the same Cutscene with Leo, the head of the co-driver do weird moves and spins 360 degrees multiple times
- In the last big mission fight of the story, there are way more enemies in the second playthrough in hard mode as before

[Aaskereija]

didn't played them tho. This is only a list of the main game

[BlazeD]

I haven't experienced most of the problems you listed. I'm on my second play-thru atm. It seems to me that there were more consequences to deleting the cloth folder than you realized, maybe.

Outstanding bugs I noticed are traffic and parked cars are missing in some scenes. Moving to another area gets them spawning again.

Vito has some serious hat-head issues in some cut-scenes.

And I turned down the music. Cut scenes use the music channel for everything except dialogue.

Other than those I noticed the annoying camera angles during fights, bullets not hitting things im pointed directly at sometimes. Also, cars have lots of snap-oversteer when using the keyboard to drive, though this was a problem with the classic version too.

[Aaskereija]

i played it several times under different conditions (with "Cloth" folder, without "Cloth" folder, "modded" with Mafia 1 APEX files, and of course a fourth time with no touching anything). The list is a collection of all bugs i encountered during my 4 playthroughs overall.

Even if deleting a folder cause more bugs then not, it isn't a wanted behaviour of the game, and the list notes every little thing. Some of them you don't even notice if you don't pay attention and as i wrote in the Opener: none of the bugs in this list are real game breaker.

[BlazeD]

Yea. I was having a blast, honestly, not really looking for buggy things. Still am actually =)

Hopefully an official eyeball gets a look at your list for a bug pass.

[NetRock]

wow. I just subscribe to this thread. Hope developer read this and fix all.

[Patrick M. Bateman]

Pretty sure this game will suffer the fate of Mafia III (before being Definitive Edition'd) - that's getting just one post-release patch that fixes little if anything at all.

(And since this is a decade old game originally, why should they even bother? I totally understand why they wouldn't.)

[:::... FulVal85 [LMHT] ...:::]

I don't think that this game will be fixed... and your ticket will be closed soon (my ticket was closed some days's ago...)

same for all dlc and Mafia III, nothing will happen...


for Mafia D.E.

Daniel Vàvra:

"Since everybody asks me about it all day - I didn work on it. I dont expect much from it. Nobody told me anything about it. I dont know anything about it. Nobody paid me anything for it. My involvement is 0. I just wrote and directed the original."


Remember this!!!

[Aaskereija]

well, thats the last message from 2k about my ticket which was closed yesterday

Date: 17.03.
https://prnt.sc/tllcwo

[ChopperGunner[NL]]

Originally posted by Aaskereija:

well, thats the last message from 2k about my ticket which was closed yesterday

Date: 17.03.
https://prnt.sc/tllcwo

Man do I hope that they fix these issues. Otherwise d3t can just go ♥♥♥♥ themselves.

[AntiqueGamer]

Game killer for me is no mouse support for movement - you just cannot map in the mouse to move forward or backwards, or to use the terrible translation ''up and down''. I wrote the company who re-made it and asked them to add this mouse mapping option - unless of course you are stuck in 1997 and love to use WASD and a mouse to shoot.

[ChopperGunner[NL]]

Originally posted by AntiqueGamer:

Game killer for me is no mouse support for movement - you just cannot map in the mouse to move forward or backwards, or to use the terrible translation ''up and down''. I wrote the company who re-made it and asked them to add this mouse mapping option - unless of course you are stuck in 1997 and love to use WASD and a mouse to shoot.

Lol why in the ♥♥♥♥'s world would you want that.

[Aaskereija]

Originally posted by AntiqueGamer:

Game killer for me is no mouse support for movement - you just cannot map in the mouse to move forward or backwards, or to use the terrible translation ''up and down''. I wrote the company who re-made it and asked them to add this mouse mapping option - unless of course you are stuck in 1997 and love to use WASD and a mouse to shoot.

i can't even imagine how you run, shoot and aim with such mapping without having horrible movement. But, whatever floats your boat mate.

[samuel2789]

There is also a glitch where you cannot continue Chapter 13 if Vito is carrying a weapon of any kind and it restarts from after the Triads butchered Henry. I am now retrying the chapter with Vito bare handed and see if this annoyance is resolved.

[:::... FulVal85 [LMHT] ...:::]

I'm still waiting for news about this update... :S


please report all bugs that you find

[Rogue]

Molotov cocktails that burn through anything, even down through the floor to the next level.