Going Medieval

Going Medieval

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Rudeus Greyrat Dec 28, 2023 @ 4:46am
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Devs abandoned this "game"
Nevermind about the injected politics that 95% of players do not enjoy,
Going Medieval has been out for 3 years going on 4 and there are still some unacceptable bugs and poor coding choices that have been made and that is to say nothing about the little content and less player control on some of the worst mechanics. I want to also add that the Unity engine is another worst choice made here. I wager the devs picked it because it was the cheapest and requires much less knowledge of coding and that shows.

My personal biggest gripes are the EXP bleed system. I don't personally like it, there is no option to turn it off and it is set way too high. After a full day you will lose the experience gained from a single action towards a skill. It bleeds that much! 'Help I forgot how to water flowers in my sleep!' Who did that and was happy with it? Disgusting.

The taming system leaves a lot to be desired. Let's say you want to tame a wolf. If you succeed (without save-scumming) and you won't succeed but let's say you do; Now the wolf has 15-23% tameness. You may only attempt it once a day which a high chance they will attack your person mind you. In the 24hrs until the next tame chance (which you will most likely fail regardless of skill level) they will bleed 10-15% tameness. Who sat back and said "Yep, proud of that system." Shame on you.

Memory dumps. You hate em, I hate em. This game is preciously simple in design and the way it is optimized...well it isn't. On several occasions I timed out 90sec-2min times to load a save file. I do not use mods nor am I even far in the game. This is the final package? Are you kidding me?

For having been out as long as it has, the disgusting lack of content, optimization, player controllable variables, and gender politics, I am lead to believe this is abandonware. Spend your money where Devs care. Necesse, Rimworld, Medieval Dynasty, Sengoku Dynasty. Take your pick cause this ain't it chief.
Last edited by Rudeus Greyrat; Dec 28, 2023 @ 4:59am
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failsafe Dec 28, 2023 @ 5:16am 
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This game is still in early access. And it is still being developed. It keeps getting nice things, like recently it got water. If you want to play fully developed and finished product: just stay away from early access. If you took risk, it was your choice. I've purchased this game a year ago, or something like this. It was already very playable and fun. Comparing Going Medieval with Necesse is like comparing things that dont match. Actually same with Rimworld. At some point people have to understand that this game is not supposed to be a copy of something else - it does pretty good job being something different and unique.

I dont know anything about injected politics that 95% players dont enjoy. Most probably I'm among those 5% that simply didnt notice the issue.

I dont feel like discussing abandonware... I guess this is a point where you show that the whole idea of this post was to farm jesters. Sorry, I dont give jesters, but maybe someone else will ;-)

:bc_donut:
asdfjkl Dec 28, 2023 @ 8:47am 
Everyone's entitled to have an opinion. I come back to this game a lot. 375 hours so far. If you don't enjoy it, don't play it. No one is forcing you. Some of us enjoy it a lot, and can't wait to test out whatever new stuff the developers bring along.
Rudeus Greyrat Dec 28, 2023 @ 9:59am 
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Originally posted by asdfjkl:
Everyone's entitled to have an opinion. I come back to this game a lot. 375 hours so far. If you don't enjoy it, don't play it. No one is forcing you. Some of us enjoy it a lot, and can't wait to test out whatever new stuff the developers bring along.

Unacceptable cop out. No one is holding my hand to the fire, but quitting certainly doesn't refund my time, efforts, nor $. Cowards way out is what you suggest.



Originally posted by failsafe:
This game is still in early access. And it is still being developed. It keeps getting nice things, like recently it got water. If you want to play fully developed and finished product: just stay away from early access. If you took risk, it was your choice. I've purchased this game a year ago, or something like this. It was already very playable and fun. Comparing Going Medieval with Necesse is like comparing things that dont match. Actually same with Rimworld. At some point people have to understand that this game is not supposed to be a copy of something else - it does pretty good job being something different and unique.

I dont know anything about injected politics that 95% players dont enjoy. Most probably I'm among those 5% that simply didnt notice the issue.

I dont feel like discussing abandonware... I guess this is a point where you show that the whole idea of this post was to farm jesters. Sorry, I dont give jesters, but maybe someone else will ;-)

:bc_donut:

I guess you are then. How about the "Masculine/Feminine body type" and the they/them pronouns. Ridiculous. People didn't have their heads up their asses in the 1300's as far as people do now. Be part of the solution instead of shrugging at humanity's decline.





Originally posted by Morbious:
XpDecayMultiplier in the Attributes.json

you do know you can edit the json files
its just a case of finding the file and then finding the relevant line and changing a number

the devs have even helped me and others when explaining where and how to edit the files

on bugs /stability
Originally posted by SeVerin:
Yes, bugs are still present in the game, but (in this phase) we are trying our best to solve the gamebreaking ones and those that affect gameplay in a big way. That's why I think that stability is working, but there might be an edge case we've missed.

Originally posted by SeVerin:
We are doing refactoring of the construction system which will allow us to easily change and improve the stability system as a separate thing.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1029780/discussions/1/3884976499355601803/

welcome to Early Access

to be blunt you lost me and prob 98.9% of the normal forum lurker with the bold statement games been abandoned we see the dev posting daily
(see i to can pull a number out my rear to)

Now this is useful information. I appreciate that tip and will use it. I'd be interested in finding the tame/train decay stat as well.

Why this urks me as much as it does is for how much I contributed to this project when it first launched into EA. I was behind many many suggestions, bug fixes, and optimizations. It is a sucker punch to the gut to come back years later and see nothing added but water and fish. Maybe yall don't understand but if you've ever put in any hard work and real effort into something, you would.
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failsafe Dec 28, 2023 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Riku818:

Originally posted by failsafe:

I dont know anything about injected politics that 95% players dont enjoy. Most probably I'm among those 5% that simply didnt notice the issue.



:bc_donut:
I guess you are then. How about the "Masculine/Feminine body type" and the they/them pronouns. Ridiculous. People didn't have their heads up their asses in the 1300's as far as people do now. Be part of the solution instead of shrugging at humanity's decline.

Could You elaborate bit more about gender stuff? I havent played this game for a while, so Im not up to date with this thing... honestly: I just dont remember how it works in the game.
Deathwatch27 Dec 28, 2023 @ 1:40pm 
How much was this game 3 years ago, $20-$25??? Oh no at only a single hours pay, 2 hrs in a less paid job. Anytime you spent playing was your choice, right?
It's an early access title and doesn't pretend it's not.
With an update earlier this month and one of the developers on here last night it's definitely not abandonware.
Going the OP's tone they seem to be the main problem here so if they're not happy I'm sure there's a million other games to b*tch about. Their profile is also private so likely just an alt account to troll. What a loser
Silly Sammy Dec 28, 2023 @ 5:33pm 
It's an early access game. I bought it early on and refunded to wait for more content. I've come back and seen they've made loads of progress down the road map that only had like two or three objectives done when I first bought it. I haven't followed any news on this game, but they seem to very much be steadily chugging along much more steady than most other early access games I've seen.
Squirrel Dec 28, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
I have to agree that after 3+ years of early access, the content is very poor and optimisation is TERRIBLE.
Game is laggy AF after you have built a few stuff ... and it even often crashes ...

And don't bring the "they added water!" ... the water just doesn't work at all.
If you ever touch it, like trying to reroute it etc, your save is doomed : the water will flood all the map.
And about it dev said "yeah, well, don't touch it".
(and NO it's not patched as they said : it happened to me yesterday)

So they added a feature, but in a super bugged state ...
I mean, what's the point ? The game already had issues, but before fixing it, they released a new issue, a feature that if you use it you instantly kill your run ...

Tbh I thought the game was very new, like a few months old, but reading this post i saw it's 3+ years, so yeah it's really weird to have a huge amount of buggs/issues but still low amount of content o.O

Like, you build a wall around your base, put 4 archers on it, and no ennemies can enter, gg end of game. For real, you don't even need to use melee weapons at all.
The game doesn't offer many things to do ... you can just AFK + fast time speed 95% of the time. For real, I probably have 50 or 60 hours on this game, but actually the game is just muted and little sized in the corned of my screen while i'm watching Twitch/Youtube, cooking, eating etc ...
For a 20hour game for exemple, you just spend 1hour or 2 at the start to micro-manage everything, and then you just have to do 2 or 3 clicks every hour ...
A huge problem is that when your village is running well alone, if you decided to expend it, dig and build caves, make wood farms etc the game will start lagging so hard it becomes unplayable ... (i have an i7, a 3060rtx and 32ram, i can play Cyberpunk, Starfield etc but can't run this game wtf xD ...)

And stop saying "it's early access, it's normal!".
When i buy a cake, if the guy sells me flour at the full price and tells me fruits and chocolate will come soon, i don't expect it to come in FOUR YEARS ...
The ea system is just a scam, the ea games shouldn't be allowed to be sold at full price, since you only get a beta version of a game that will often won't even be updated. Atm it's too easy to sell ea games, you can do whatever you want, there are no rules, that's ridiculous.

For all those reasons, yes i agree with most of this post, and i totally understand that people are complaining after buying 25€ early-access games and that are more bugged and take longer to be released than an ElderScrolls game (but without even 1% of an ElderScrolls game content ofc...)
Kessem Dec 29, 2023 @ 2:38am 
Here is a quick solution..... Don't buy it.

Early Access, means that there will be issues, and it will take time (however long) to be ready. No one forces you to go in early, and those of us that do, help the game continue it's development, and when it is done we already purchased it.

Basically, EA is a slight gamble, and it is your choice to spin the wheel, so to speak, or not.
Squirrel Dec 29, 2023 @ 9:35am 
How is it a gamble ??
You just buy the game at full price in first place, so what the gamble is ???

It would be "gambling" if at start you buy the game at 10% cost for exemple, and when the full game is released it is sold at 100% but you already have it.
Doing so, the gambling is about the game actually being released or not.

But since you already payed 25 bucks for an EA, tell me how it is a gamble ... Is the game going to be sold 70€? ?

It's totally not a gamble, you are just paying to be a beta-tester and will be cheated by some devs who, 50% of the times, never released their games / update it (up to 100% chances when it's a job simulation game).

EA isn't a gamble, it's a scam.
It could a be an ok system if people weren't dishonest, but most of people are.
Also it could be ok if it was just a few little games that start with EA, but atm it is harder to find a fully polished game than a never-ending beta-state game, wtf ?! Look, even the GOTY (BG3) started with an EA ...

Don't you see how this industry is fooling us ?
Remember when they said they will now sell their games online, saying it would be cheaper because they won't have to give a part of the price to the sellers anymore ?
Well, they killed all the stores we had in our cities, they also killed the second-hand market, plus we don't have physical boxes with maps, booklets etc. So yeah, they now don't have to pay for all those things anymore, but they actually NEVER lowered the prices !
And now what next, how can they earn more by doing less ? EA !
They now want us to buy tons of games, that we only play for 20 or 30 hours each, and never touch anymore after that. They want video games to be like mcdonalds, fastly bought, fastly eaten.

Proof ?
Well, look BG3 again : when it got released many studios complained about the game because it doesn't follow this system : it is a polished game with tons and tons of content, so it could make people realise that it is possible to sell polished games with tons of hours of content, and they don't want that.
They don't want customers asking for polished games, they don't want customers asking for lot of content, they don't want us to play only 1 or 2 games for 400 hours, they want customers to buy 15 games per year.



Anyway, I'm not saying it's the case of this game, not saying those devs are scammers, but I totally agree that adding WATER to a city-building game after 2.5 years of EA is kinda ridiculous. (mostly when the water doesn't even work at all)
kURP Linood Dec 31, 2023 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by failsafe:
This game is still in early access. And it is still being developed. It keeps getting nice things, like recently it got water. If you want to play fully developed and finished product: just stay away from early access. If you took risk, it was your choice. I've purchased this game a year ago, or something like this. It was already very playable and fun. Comparing Going Medieval with Necesse is like comparing things that dont match. Actually same with Rimworld. At some point people have to understand that this game is not supposed to be a copy of something else - it does pretty good job being something different and unique.

I dont know anything about injected politics that 95% players dont enjoy. Most probably I'm among those 5% that simply didnt notice the issue.

I dont feel like discussing abandonware... I guess this is a point where you show that the whole idea of this post was to farm jesters. Sorry, I dont give jesters, but maybe someone else will ;-)

:bc_donut:
Step 1 avoid all points made
Step 2 Defend game
Step 3 add some type of insult at the end
Step 4 sit back and feel good.
drommels Dec 31, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Squirrel:
How is it a gamble ??
You just buy the game at full price in first place, so what the gamble is ???

It would be "gambling" if at start you buy the game at 10% cost for exemple, and when the full game is released it is sold at 100% but you already have it.
Doing so, the gambling is about the game actually being released or not.

But since you already payed 25 bucks for an EA, tell me how it is a gamble ... Is the game going to be sold 70€? ?

It's totally not a gamble, you are just paying to be a beta-tester and will be cheated by some devs who, 50% of the times, never released their games / update it (up to 100% chances when it's a job simulation game).

EA isn't a gamble, it's a scam.
It could a be an ok system if people weren't dishonest, but most of people are.
Also it could be ok if it was just a few little games that start with EA, but atm it is harder to find a fully polished game than a never-ending beta-state game, wtf ?! Look, even the GOTY (BG3) started with an EA ...

Don't you see how this industry is fooling us ?
Remember when they said they will now sell their games online, saying it would be cheaper because they won't have to give a part of the price to the sellers anymore ?
Well, they killed all the stores we had in our cities, they also killed the second-hand market, plus we don't have physical boxes with maps, booklets etc. So yeah, they now don't have to pay for all those things anymore, but they actually NEVER lowered the prices !
And now what next, how can they earn more by doing less ? EA !
They now want us to buy tons of games, that we only play for 20 or 30 hours each, and never touch anymore after that. They want video games to be like mcdonalds, fastly bought, fastly eaten.

Proof ?
Well, look BG3 again : when it got released many studios complained about the game because it doesn't follow this system : it is a polished game with tons and tons of content, so it could make people realise that it is possible to sell polished games with tons of hours of content, and they don't want that.
They don't want customers asking for polished games, they don't want customers asking for lot of content, they don't want us to play only 1 or 2 games for 400 hours, they want customers to buy 15 games per year.



Anyway, I'm not saying it's the case of this game, not saying those devs are scammers, but I totally agree that adding WATER to a city-building game after 2.5 years of EA is kinda ridiculous. (mostly when the water doesn't even work at all)


Aren't we grumpy. BG3 was in early access for 3 years and only chapter 1, Chapter 2 & especially chapter 3 were full of bugs, cut content and very laggy. I loved BG3 though, and by the time I got to chapter 3, most bugs and lag were fixed. Outstanding! But don't be mistaken. Larian Studio isn't really a small studio compared to Foxy Voxel. In the end, 150 devs worked on BG3. On this game afaik 7 devs... so yea, what is your rant all about really? Took a wrong turn somewhere, maybe.

Beside the 'water & fishing' update, we had about every two weeks small patches, fixes and updates. 'Swamp' not that long ago. 'Animal behavior', 'coin bartering' etc etc. The Medieval Monday Talk with the devs where they show us what they are working on... 7 people. Like the OP, just trolling or a serious bad mood. Cheer up next year ;)
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Squirrel Dec 31, 2023 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by drommels:

Aren't we grumpy. BG3 was in early access for 3 years and only chapter 1, Chapter 2 & especially chapter 3 were full of bugs, cut content and very laggy. I loved BG3 though, and by the time I got to chapter 3, most bugs and lag were fixed. Outstanding! But don't be mistaken. Larian Studio isn't really a small studio compared to Foxy Voxel. In the end, 150 devs worked on BG3. On this game afaik 7 devs... so yea, what is your rant all about really? Took a wrong turn somewhere, maybe.

What ?
I used the BG3 exemple not in order to say it was a great EA etc, I firstly used it to point that now every studios are doing EA even GOTY winners, and on a second time to point that many studios blamed Larian for putting on the market a game that has too much content etc and that it's against the industry business plan.

And i didn't compare Larian and Foxy.

W T F,
did you even read what i wrote ?

Originally posted by drommels:
Beside the 'water & fishing' update, we had about every two weeks small patches, fixes and updates. 'Swamp' not that long ago. 'Animal behavior', 'coin bartering' etc etc. The Medieval Monday Talk with the devs where they show us what they are working on... 7 people. Like the OP, just trolling or a serious bad mood. Cheer up next year ;)

Firstly, wow, awesome, an EA game got some updates ?! Unbeliebubble ! Need a medal?

Also, even with all, i mean ALL the previous updates on this game, it is still far to be called a finished and polished product, and it is far to be allowed to be sold 25 bucks.
Atm it's closer to a 4€ mobile game than a 25 bucks PC game, let's be honnest.

Secondly, I wrote 100 lines, gave tons of exemples, arguments, etc, and all you have to point out is that the game had some "small patches" ? Really?
So yeah, one more time I'm convinced you didn't even read it, or perhaps having only this to say about what i wrote is basically admitting everything i said was actually right.
OK, so normal discussion posts being removed around here.. How about fixing that water bug flooding the whole map then?
Originally posted by Morbious:
Originally posted by Betty's Honor guard:
OK, so normal discussion posts being removed around here.. How about fixing that water bug flooding the whole map then?


the devs have or are on holiday 29th till 7th
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1029780/eventcomments/4032475099157399843/

and they know about the map problems
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1029780/discussions/0/4032475487619300376/#c4032475816294152346

OK, that is fine. Still, I don't think I did anything wrong that warrants having my post deleted. I was being very respectful and just stated my opinion as a reaction to someone else's post. Unless, what that person posted is unacceptable, then my reaction would be moot upon deletion of their post, of course.
Originally posted by Morbious:
if i create a thread on steam so long as it has i think under 6 replies as the poster i can remove the thread via deleting if it goes past those number of threads steam can remove or close it but i cant delete it

there's also reporting but generally steam only removes if a person went on a absolute madness rant (never quote madness you'll get your hands slapped via a nice steam letter and the offending post will be removed always dispute the slapping if you quoted and got caught up)

also steam can time warp sometimes had it happen steam sales mess up steam

Yeah there was just some stuff that honestly was a bit hypocritical, so I responded to that.
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