Cheaters?!?

[KarlKrut]

After playing Multiplayer there is obvious tons of cheaters out there padding their multiplayer score with using 3rd party software, does reporting them get investigated at all or is the Multiplayer dead in this game? I think it's quite sad these people can cheat and get away with it. Done multiple reports against accounts with obvious cheaters. They see through walls, they even shoot through walls, i swear i had one guy teleport on me to melee kill me, they seem even to know exactly when you are in line of sight. Also running fast spinning and aiming perfectly with like 0 delay to stop and shot. Is the cheating going to be addressed?

[TheOrangeBox]

Rebellion was on the ball about cheaters in SE4 but no idea if they made any further progress in their system - but safe to say if dev these days have not in place a robust cheating system in their games, the multiplayer mode can be considered dead on arrival.

A pinned thread from SE4 regarding reporting:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/312660/discussions/0/133256758574989400/

[KarlKrut]

Damn the Multi Player is good and maps are decent, but this farce with the cheaters is just sad how they can get away with doing what they are doing..

[TheOrangeBox]

Honestly, I don't know why Rebellion isn't using Valve Anti-Cheat system as many games do.
Like Sniper Elite Nazi Zombie Army has the Valve Anti-Cheat enabled but not SE5.

[♠ Rubb]

so many Cheaters in Game but the intrest of rebellion is just on Money
the fact also in multiplayer that a player host and if he is sad the game is complete lost not an other in the lobby starts to host im so sad spending a lot of money for nothing
by now i will never do an update for that or buy a pass again

[AnOldMan]

Originally posted by gntle:

After playing Multiplayer there is obvious tons of cheaters out there padding their multiplayer score with using 3rd party software, does reporting them get investigated at all or is the Multiplayer dead in this game? I think it's quite sad these people can cheat and get away with it. Done multiple reports against accounts with obvious cheaters. They see through walls, they even shoot through walls, i swear i had one guy teleport on me to melee kill me, they seem even to know exactly when you are in line of sight. Also running fast spinning and aiming perfectly with like 0 delay to stop and shot. Is the cheating going to be addressed?

I've reported some players multiple times for cheating....Nothing ever comes of it, no matter how blatant they are. Some of them have admitted to everyone in a full-up match (16 people in-game) they're cheating, been reported by half the lobby, and guess what? That's right....Nothing. No game ban. No Kick from the server.

Worse, still is that nobody is willing to actively vote to kick cheaters when a vote is initiated. Hate how everyone is willing to gripe about the cheaters, but unwilling to participate in passing judgement on them in a way that keeps them from playing the game.

And before anyone tries to feed excuses about cheaters, who've been reported multiple time, having been investigated and proven innocent, I have one thing to say. DON'T FEED ME THAT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!
I've gone looking and found videos of those same steam accounts on other games being caught using various cheat engines, including games like RUST which actively ban cheaters accounts. The content creators post the steam account IDs for those hackers. None of those accounts are stolen. None of them are clean.

Rebellion needs to adjust how it handles cheaters, or dump the multiplayer altogether.

[KarlKrut]

Originally posted by RubberDuck ™:

so many Cheaters in Game but the intrest of rebellion is just on Money
the fact also in multiplayer that a player host and if he is sad the game is complete lost not an other in the lobby starts to host im so sad spending a lot of money for nothing
by now i will never do an update for that or buy a pass again

Well the single player value is there definitely and worth it, but it's so sad as the multi player has been integrated and is a good part of the game, accept for the cheaters taking the piss out of it and ruining the experiance.

[KarlKrut]

Originally posted by ksanoldman:

Originally posted by gntle:

After playing Multiplayer there is obvious tons of cheaters out there padding their multiplayer score with using 3rd party software, does reporting them get investigated at all or is the Multiplayer dead in this game? I think it's quite sad these people can cheat and get away with it. Done multiple reports against accounts with obvious cheaters. They see through walls, they even shoot through walls, i swear i had one guy teleport on me to melee kill me, they seem even to know exactly when you are in line of sight. Also running fast spinning and aiming perfectly with like 0 delay to stop and shot. Is the cheating going to be addressed?

I've reported some players multiple times for cheating....Nothing ever comes of it, no matter how blatant they are. Some of them have admitted to everyone in a full-up match (16 people in-game) they're cheating, been reported by half the lobby, and guess what? That's right....Nothing. No game ban. No Kick from the server.

Worse, still is that nobody is willing to actively vote to kick cheaters when a vote is initiated. Hate how everyone is willing to gripe about the cheaters, but unwilling to participate in passing judgement on them in a way that keeps them from playing the game.

And before anyone tries to feed excuses about cheaters, who've been reported multiple time, having been investigated and proven innocent, I have one thing to say. DON'T FEED ME THAT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!
I've gone looking and found videos of those same steam accounts on other games being caught using various cheat engines, including games like RUST which actively ban cheaters accounts. The content creators post the steam account IDs for those hackers. None of those accounts are stolen. None of them are clean.

Rebellion needs to adjust how it handles cheaters, or dump the multiplayer altogether.

I could not agree more, the whole things is just so bad. The game is good and all engine is amazing and all that and there is a good player base i connected with several players that are good people. But some of these people that obvious is cheating with a 10:1 K/D ratio and having godly aim and you pretty much get spawn killed.

Yesterday for example a guy in game i accused him of cheating after he had a 12.5:1 (25 kills 2 Death) K/D and that was like -You are stupid learn to play the game. New session started and then guy had 4 kills with in 27 seconds of game play. Same guy i shoot twice and lost about 20% of health as well.

[76561199498947109]

I come across a cheater maybe once a week, max.

I've been in games where you've tried to kick ME out of the game 5+ times.

I don't cheat. Never have. Never will.

I do, however, have 300+ hours in the game and know the most common places where people will be, so it's reallllllly easy to play against newer players.

And that's about it.

Most of the top fragging players just know the game really well. They have all the perks. They have all the guns.

Some of them have fantastic aim (especially easy on PC) and some of them have great recoil control (also much easier on PC).

People aren't cheating nearly 1% of the time you think they are.

[KarlKrut]

Originally posted by NemSokatCsal:

I come across a cheater maybe once a week, max.

I've been in games where you've tried to kick ME out of the game 5+ times.

I don't cheat. Never have. Never will.

I do, however, have 300+ hours in the game and know the most common places where people will be, so it's reallllllly easy to play against newer players.

And that's about it.

Most of the top fragging players just know the game really well. They have all the perks. They have all the guns.

Some of them have fantastic aim (especially easy on PC) and some of them have great recoil control (also much easier on PC).

People aren't cheating nearly 1% of the time you think they are.

First: I have a load of experience playing and i know the places, not like hey noob, sure you can hit a lucky streak, but when there is a player carrying the whole team round after round it's quite hard to believe how lucky someone is, go get a ticket!

Second: That is a problem of balance then, But that is not all as some spin and have a goodly aim and no one cant by hand have that kind off aim, but due thanks to 3rd party software or similar services. Also some people sprint over 300 meters in distance in seconds from one side of the map to the other. Also when a round start with in 21 seconds they have +4 kills yesterday. Also being out of line of sight and getting sniped, to much coincidences, as you are behind a wall. I could ramble more.

Third: Aim and recoil etc, is just excuses, i play on PC and i know how it flows, and i do not have a potato of a PC and some crappy internet. So you fall fall there with excuses.

Conclusion is some people are using some form off assistance, yeah you might have skills? But a lot of people I am sure there is some application running there in the background processes giving them a helping hand for seeing opponents outlines and other cheats with a key press. I actually looked some things up and it's quite easy and interesting and does not cost to much to get the edge. If you are a legit and straight player good for you... Please if i tried to get kicked but then please share your in game name thanks.

[AnOldMan]

Originally posted by NemSokatCsal:

I come across a cheater maybe once a week, max.

I've been in games where you've tried to kick ME out of the game 5+ times.

I don't cheat. Never have. Never will.

I do, however, have 300+ hours in the game and know the most common places where people will be, so it's reallllllly easy to play against newer players.

And that's about it.

Most of the top fragging players just know the game really well. They have all the perks. They have all the guns.

Some of them have fantastic aim (especially easy on PC) and some of them have great recoil control (also much easier on PC).

People aren't cheating nearly 1% of the time you think they are.

1) I have 800+ hours, know the game like the back of my hand, and am not so "lucky" as to have a KDR better than maybe 5:1 in my BEST matches.

2) As stated in my post, I have people constantly admitting to cheating. I have also noted those who deny it as having steam account IDs known to use cheats on other games.

3) Perks help, but as gntle said, it's impossible to get 4+ kills within the opening 30 seconds of a round, unless somehow the game literally spawned all of them in an open field, in direct line-of-sight of the player in question, and he could literally quick-scope all of them, which is impossible given that there is no quick-scope function in this game....That is an OBVIOUS CHEATER.

4) I've never seen a person get voted for kicks without cause. You may not be cheating, but that doesn't mean your behavior isn't suspect in some way. You may have said something offensive. You may have said something inappropriate. You may have shot a teammate. People can try to kick you for ANY REASON. However, l am inclined to believe someone had reason to believe you were cheating if they tried to kick you 5+ times in a single session, therefore I find your arguments to be without credit. Besides, all the excuses you just gave for supposedly not cheating are classic arguments cheater use regularly.

[KarlKrut]

Originally posted by ksanoldman:

Originally posted by NemSokatCsal:

I come across a cheater maybe once a week, max.

I've been in games where you've tried to kick ME out of the game 5+ times.

I don't cheat. Never have. Never will.

I do, however, have 300+ hours in the game and know the most common places where people will be, so it's reallllllly easy to play against newer players.

And that's about it.

Most of the top fragging players just know the game really well. They have all the perks. They have all the guns.

Some of them have fantastic aim (especially easy on PC) and some of them have great recoil control (also much easier on PC).

People aren't cheating nearly 1% of the time you think they are.

1) I have 800+ hours, know the game like the back of my hand, and am not so "lucky" as to have a KDR better than maybe 5:1 in my BEST matches.

2) As stated in my post, I have people constantly admitting to cheating. I have also noted those who deny it as having steam account IDs known to use cheats on other games.

3) Perks help, but as gntle said, it's impossible to get 4+ kills within the opening 30 seconds of a round, unless somehow the game literally spawned all of them in an open field, in direct line-of-sight of the player in question, and he could literally quick-scope all of them, which is impossible given that there is no quick-scope function in this game....That is an OBVIOUS CHEATER.

4) I've never seen a person get voted for kicks without cause. You may not be cheating, but that doesn't mean your behavior isn't suspect in some way. You may have said something offensive. You may have said something inappropriate. You may have shot a teammate. People can try to kick you for ANY REASON. However, l am inclined to believe someone had reason to believe you were cheating if they tried to kick you 5+ times in a single session, therefore I find your arguments to be without credit. Besides, all the excuses you just gave for supposedly not cheating are classic arguments cheater use regularly.

Thanks, and well said.

[TheOrangeBox]

Is even the Easy Anti-Cheat in S5 working?
It seems that you had to install first to be active, how that works if cheaters are not installing in their system?

[🆂🆃🅸🅶🅶🅰]

Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:

Is even the Easy Anti-Cheat in S5 working?
It seems that you had to install first to be active, how that works if cheaters are not installing in their system?

EAC is bypassed by the cheaters most game`s Anti cheat systems are , i think Fornite now has 3 anti cheat systems , Rebellion`s priorities seem fixed on Pink guns , Bomber Jackets , a few maps. all the stupid ideas for this game come from the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ creeps on Discord

[KarlKrut]

Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:

Is even the Easy Anti-Cheat in S5 working?
It seems that you had to install first to be active, how that works if cheaters are not installing in their system?

They use the Denuvo Anti-cheat system *cough* that is nothing but a DRM crap that slows your PC down, it's there to make sure you do not pirate the game. Also EAC is so easy bypassed it's silly. There is free and pay services to make you cheat as i looked in to that cause i was curious what options there is. Imagine how easy it would be to win match after match and ride the ranks and reap the perks :), then when you got it all you can proudly call people noobs.

[TheOrangeBox]

Originally posted by sTiGga:

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Originally posted by gntle:

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Thanks folks, I really hope Rebellion get their act together and put more effort into the cheating issue of the game, after all the online mode is a big part of the game so would be a shame if future sales are going to be ruined by the ongoing cheaters.